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Frank B

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Re: supermanotorious is FINALLY going solar!
« Reply #30 on: August 31, 2017, 07:59:24 PM »
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then we were hit with intense rain and hail and I was kind of glad the panels weren't exposed to that

The resiliency of solar panels may surprise you.

I have just completed a large solar installation on our 2010 Arctic Fox 30U.  It rained shortly afterward, and we got  3/4" hail with it - loud enough to wake us up in the house.  Solar panels were all fine.

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Kevin Means

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« Reply #31 on: September 02, 2017, 01:28:33 PM »
What Frank said. There are international standards for solar panel construction, and hail impact resistance is one of them. Hail that's hitting hard enough to shatter a car's windshield, will usually have no affect at all on solar panels. Ours have been through a couple of hail storms, and suffered no damage whatsoever. They're tough!

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Frank B

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Re: supermanotorious is FINALLY going solar!
« Reply #32 on: September 02, 2017, 03:30:16 PM »

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Hail that's hitting hard enough to shatter a car's windshield, will usually have no affect at all on solar panels.


That is good to know. We get a lot of hail here, though seldom of windshield breaking size.


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supermanotorious

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Re: supermanotorious is FINALLY going solar!
« Reply #33 on: September 07, 2017, 04:01:54 PM »
I'm not concerned about weather anymore, I still haven't installed the doggone things and every trip involves putting them on the roof, connecting them, then bringing them back down, total PITA, for now she's on the driveway with all 4 panels resting on the roof, I am leaving the inverter on and it is powering a charger for my boat batteries, I am going to monitor for a couple days then may wire them to 24V to see if the controller converts the higher voltage to additional amps
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supermanotorious

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Re: supermanotorious is FINALLY going solar!
« Reply #34 on: November 03, 2017, 06:30:29 PM »
finally made brackets and installed the panels, I sure hope the brackets were worth the pita, my plan is to someday replace the hardware with knob bolts so I can tilt the panels

I decided to run series/parallel for higher output voltage since the 8ga run from the panels to the charge controller is about 25 feet

used 3/4" long 14ga stainless screws to attach the brackets to the roof and sealed the footings with Dicor, ran the wires down the refrigerator vent, one reason I drug my feet on this was not realizing the refrigerator vent is basically just an open channel from the roof to the service panel for the refrigerator, I had the wires then follow the refig drain hose to the bottom of the coach then ran them along the frame to the controller
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Frank B

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Re: supermanotorious is FINALLY going solar!
« Reply #35 on: November 03, 2017, 10:14:48 PM »
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one reason I drug my feet on this was not realizing the refrigerator vent is basically just an open channel from the roof


Indeed, that is one of the great advantages of using that area for running wires. There's lots of room, and it is super easy to pull them through there.


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supermanotorious

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Re: supermanotorious is FINALLY going solar!
« Reply #36 on: November 06, 2017, 06:24:58 AM »
towed the rig to Winkelman Flats for the annual Riot on the River motorcycle event, the panels didn't blow off or come loose (phew). and of course Saturday was mostly overcast but I never saw the battery bank go below 90% and it was fully charged when I parked it on the driveway yesterday
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supermanotorious

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Re: supermanotorious is FINALLY going solar!
« Reply #37 on: November 07, 2017, 06:44:25 AM »
I'm not sure how to configure the Victron BMV-700. My batteries are Interstate RC105     Ah: 20 hr @ 210 and I have 4 of them wired in series/parallel, what do I enter for total/desired amp hour?

System Voltage: 6V + 6V = 12V
System Capacity = 210AH + 210AH = 420AH  ?

ALSO, given these batteries, can anyone provide the values I should enter for Charged Voltage, Tail Current, Charged Detection Time, and Charge Efficiency Factor?
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Gary RV_Wizard

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Re: supermanotorious is FINALLY going solar!
« Reply #38 on: November 07, 2017, 10:20:07 AM »
The combined AH for your battery bank is the 420 @ 12v. Once wired up, you have one big 12v battery, not 4 separate ones, and that's what the Victron sees.

For the other parameters, I'd go with the defaults until some experience is gained. The actual performance of your batteries and charger might eventually lead to some tuning changes, but changing them now seems premature to me. I would be tempted to move the Charged Voltage up a bit, but would want to see how it performs first. Most modern chargers get to about 13.6v at float charge, and the manual suggests setting the level 0.2v-0.3v below that.
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Frank B

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Re: supermanotorious is FINALLY going solar!
« Reply #39 on: November 08, 2017, 03:07:10 PM »
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Saturday was mostly overcast but I never saw the battery bank go below 90% and it was fully charged when I parked it on the driveway yesterday

I am looking forward to trying our new array in Arizona and SoCal, hopefully in a few weeks time.  We had it out once in August here locally, but parked in a shady campground.  Once I moved the trailer to a sunnier spot, we were fine.

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Re: supermanotorious is FINALLY going solar!
« Reply #40 on: November 08, 2017, 05:08:54 PM »
Frank, a handful of us are getting together at KOFA starting January 9th. Can you make it?

Kev
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Frank B

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Re: supermanotorious is FINALLY going solar!
« Reply #41 on: November 08, 2017, 06:19:47 PM »
Kevin:

It is possible....

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supermanotorious

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Re: supermanotorious is FINALLY going solar!
« Reply #42 on: November 08, 2017, 08:42:56 PM »
by the way, I did not have to cut the "mesh" on top of the refer vent, I have many years of professional installation, after drilling the holes for the grommets, I used a steel fish tape to run down the vent as I looked through the mesh, super clean install, I'm having some PC issues now so I'm not able to upload pictures but I will when I can
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Frank B

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Re: supermanotorious is FINALLY going solar!
« Reply #43 on: November 17, 2017, 08:06:11 PM »
The only reason that I had to cut the mesh open on the top was because I had to run the wire down the far side of the fridge cavity from where the placement of the conduit obliged me to make the entry hole. I then wanted to staple that wire in place, and I couldn't reach up high enough in the cavity from outside to nail the wire staples in place. That pretty much had to be done from above.


Do send us pictures of your installation when you have a moment.


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supermanotorious

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Re: supermanotorious is FINALLY going solar!
« Reply #44 on: November 18, 2017, 10:47:18 AM »
the picture issue is two fold, for starters I have a new hard drive in my PC that is for applications only and I haven't figured out how to route imported pictures to the original drive without duplicating pics already on there, the second issue is the compression requirements for this forum, I HATE THEM, especially with the new 3MP+ size iPhone photos
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Frank B

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Re: supermanotorious is FINALLY going solar!
« Reply #45 on: November 18, 2017, 11:14:35 AM »
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I have a new hard drive in my PC that is for applications only and I haven't figured out how to route imported pictures to the original drive without duplicating pics already on there.

One can do that in Linux with a symbolic link.  I think the same can be done in Windows, but I don't know how anymore.  Been years since I used it.  I did find a few articles by doing a Google of "windows symlink".  One of them is this article:

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa365680(v=vs.85).aspx

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second issue is the compression requirements for this forum,

There are some free utilities that will do a file compression easily.  I suspect that Irfanview will, but again, it is years since I used Windows and Windows utilities last.  AFAIK, Irfanview is still freeware.

I know that I too hate to take additional steps to post pictures here because of size limitations, but the forum also has limited disk space, and bitmap graphic files are BIG.

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supermanotorious

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Re: supermanotorious is FINALLY going solar!
« Reply #46 on: November 21, 2017, 07:02:40 AM »
here we go
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Re: supermanotorious is FINALLY going solar!
« Reply #47 on: November 21, 2017, 07:38:44 AM »
Nice job. You will love it.

 

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