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NuRVer

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Another 1/2 vs 3/4 ton question..
« on: January 30, 2017, 03:01:35 PM »
Need a used truck, probably 2010-2014, to comfortably tow a 5th Wheel 2014 Sunset Trail 280RL (DW 7174lbs, Pay Cap 3323 lbs, HW 1416).
Thanks in advance for suggestions.
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Gizmo

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Re: Another 1/2 vs 3/4 ton question..
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2017, 03:12:23 PM »
If it were me, I would go with a 3/4 ton over a half ton.
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Re: Another 1/2 vs 3/4 ton question..
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2017, 03:27:55 PM »
Too much for a 1/2 ton truck.
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Re: Another 1/2 vs 3/4 ton question..
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2017, 04:44:52 PM »
The debate should be between 3/4 and 1 ton, not between 1/2 and 3/4
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Re: Another 1/2 vs 3/4 ton question..
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2017, 07:33:07 PM »
First, welcome to the Forum!

THERE IS NO WAY A REASONABLY EQUIPPED TON TRUCK CAN HANDLE AN 11,000# FW!!

The dry wt is useless.  The FW probably weighed more than that when you brought it home.  Nobody goes camping in an empty trailer.  Use the FW  GVWR, or dry wt + CCC, or 10,500#.  The REAL pin wt will be about 20% of this weight, or 2100#.  The published hitch wt is about 20% of the dry wt.

The tow vehicle will need sufficient payload to handle:   FW pin wt of 2100#,   Weight of FW hitch of about 200#, Weight of all passengers, pets, tools, cargo and firewood.  I will guess 500#, but use YOUR weight!  This totals 2800# MINIMUM payload.

I am not aware of any ton pickup built from 2010 to 2014 with that much payload.

Every vehicle built since 2009 has a yellow label on the driver door B pillar that states the max weight of all passengers and cargo shall not exceed XXXX lbs.  This is the max payload of the vehicle, including all options and a full tank of fuel based on its weight when it left the factory. 
Look at this label on any potential tow vehicles to make sure it is up to the task, and do not let some uninformed salesman try to change your mind.   This 2800# may exceed the payload on some well equipped ton trucks, so please look!

You may wish to consider a 1 ton truck.  For a SRW 1 ton, the dimensions are almost identical to their ton cousin.  The price is nearly identical for used models.  The 1 ton comes with a heftier suspension and a GVWR of 11,500# (for most) compared to 10,000# or 9900# for most ton trucks.  This adds about 1000# more payload on average for the 1 ton version.

Nobody EVER complained about too much truck!
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Re: Another 1/2 vs 3/4 ton question..
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2017, 08:29:01 PM »
>[ALL]< that has been said.. so far.
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Re: Another 1/2 vs 3/4 ton question..
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2017, 08:30:36 AM »
The debate should be between 3/4 and 1 ton, not between 1/2 and 3/4

Actually a good point, because while a 3/4 ton would be all that is required, the OP might want to consider a 1-ton if there are plans in the future for a larger TT or 5th wheel, so it would give the OP flexibility for the future.
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Re: Another 1/2 vs 3/4 ton question..
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2017, 08:36:30 AM »
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Nobody EVER complained about too much truck!

Then they haven't ever parked a crew cab, long bed dually in a congested parking lot!
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Re: Another 1/2 vs 3/4 ton question..
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2017, 09:38:35 AM »
You might actually find a used 1 ton cheaper than a 3/4 ton.  Some people shy away from them, especially the dual wheeled models.  Which brings down their resale value.

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Re: Another 1/2 vs 3/4 ton question..
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2017, 09:57:50 AM »
Then they haven't ever parked a crew cab, long bed dually in a congested parking lot!

Owing a 1-ton CC, long bed dually there is no question a congested parking lot presents a challenge.  However, those situations so far have been few and far between making the benefits of the truck far outweigh the few times it has been a challenge, at least in my experience. 
Regards, Bruce, Lin An, Kenji & Suki
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Gone But not forgotten:
2014 Northwoods Snow River 246RKS &
2013 Aliner Expedition

 

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