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ChasA

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Re: Premature Failure of Fabric: Anyone Else Have This Problem?
« Reply #30 on: September 13, 2017, 08:01:05 AM »
The ultraleather in our 8 year old Winnebago Journey is like new and we live in it for about 6 months a year.
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Re: Premature Failure of Fabric: Anyone Else Have This Problem?
« Reply #31 on: September 16, 2017, 07:48:03 PM »
As I have posted on other threads, not all fabrics that look like Ultraleather are made by Ultraleather and that even that company makes several grades of fabrics.  RV manufacturers specify how much they want to pay for upholstery and the seating companies buy fabrics that match their price points.  Ultraleather is just one of a number of urethane finished fabrics made by several manufacturers. 

Last year we purchased a pair of deluxe FlexSteel captains chairs upholstered in the best Ultraleather available on the market.  The pair of them were >$4k.  Not to boast, but it's unlikely that the OEM seating in your RV was at that price point unless you had a very high end unit.
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Re: Premature Failure of Fabric: Anyone Else Have This Problem?
« Reply #32 on: September 16, 2017, 08:54:40 PM »
I have a 2011 Jayco "Superlite" fifth wheel.  The fake leather covering on the sofa has been flaking badly for about a year or two; it flakes off in hunks.  No harsh atmosphere, no sprays, no nothing but normal use as a sofa.  And not much of that, my wife and I prefer the two swivel chairs instead.

My wife made fabric covers to cover up the deteriorated fake leather and now the sofa does not look so trashy.

Incidentally, Jayco has not heard from me about the flaking fake leather because being several years out of warranty, I know they won't do anything.  So there may be more failures of this type than they know about.
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Re: Premature Failure of Fabric: Anyone Else Have This Problem?
« Reply #33 on: September 17, 2017, 08:46:46 AM »
I have to chuckle a bit about upholstery "premature failure". Upholstery is a wear & tear item, subject to deterioration through usage, spills, sunlight, heat/cold, humidity, and just plain aging.   It all looks good on Day 1, but quality (read: cost) will eventually become apparent. Sooner if subject to harsh usage or weather conditions. Unlike furniture in your home, RV upholstery is subject to a wide, sometimes extreme, range of environmental conditions and cracking, flaking, etc. will be one of the likely results.

RV makers can and do use upholstery and flooring quality as a major cost containment factor. They can use less expensive upholstery and flooring materials with full confidence that it will look good on the sales lot and last through the warranty period.

It appears that Jayco low-balled the upholstery choices in some of their models, and this particular one deteriorates in a really obvious manner.  However, at age 7 or so, it's far out of warranty so don't expect anything more than a shrug from Jayco [or any other RV manufacturer].   If you bought a chair at Walmart and it lasted only several years, would you expect to take it back for a free replacement?
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Re: Premature Failure of Fabric: Anyone Else Have This Problem?
« Reply #34 on: May 25, 2018, 03:49:54 PM »
While this is an old posting, I want to thank GRASH for raising the issue. I had the same problem with my Thor Citation and I was worried that after spending $2600 in reupholstering the dinette cushions and completing replacing the lounge chair, that it would happen again. So, I'm relieved to hear that it was likely not one of the 20 or so things that I could think of as causative agents - it was just cheap fabric. I can rest easier now.

For the several people that made negative comments about the initial posting, I wish that these forums could be limited to helping others. His posting and others that responded with helpful responses were valuable to me. Thank you GRASH.

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Re: Premature Failure of Fabric: Anyone Else Have This Problem?
« Reply #35 on: May 25, 2018, 08:57:55 PM »
We have a 2015 FR Berkshire. The same flaking occurred recently on the driver's seat and one of the dinette booth seats. We contacted Forest River and they advised that the covers for the front seats and the 2 booth seats are made by 2 different companies. They sent us 2 new seat covers for the front for free, but we have to take care of installing them ourselves. Note that we received a seat cover for the passenger seat even though not showing any wear or flaking. We are going to save that one until needed. Covers arrived today and they seem to be a better quality. We don't have a trip planned until the end of June, so we have time to care of the install on the driver's seat.

As for the booth, FR would only give us the contact info and see we were on our own to work it out with that manufacturer. Instead, we chose to take it to a local reupholster and have him do it. Cost was fair, fabric is much higher quality, and he did it in a few days. Much better than sending out and we like doing business with the local, little companies.
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Re: Premature Failure of Fabric: Anyone Else Have This Problem?
« Reply #36 on: June 12, 2018, 12:07:52 AM »
I have a 2009 Jayco Seneca. I bought it in 2012. At that time I noticed there was some peeling of the couch ďleatherĒ on the head rest area of the couch. It wasnít a huge deal at the time as I was excited to own a big Super C and I just assumed it was sun damage since it was in an area next to the window. Since then, the entire couch, and just about everything else except for the recliner (must be a different material) has peeled badly like big hunks of dead skin. Itís ugly and Iím at a loss on where to turn to fix the issue. Iím in southern Illinois. It isnít exactly the top RV service Mecca in the world around here. It just grinds me to no end that this could happen on any product that retailed in the 175,000 dollar range. So for now Iím stuck until I figure out a solution. Itís so far out of warranty I know it would be futile to ask Jayco for help.

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Re: Premature Failure of Fabric: Anyone Else Have This Problem?
« Reply #37 on: June 12, 2018, 08:38:39 AM »
My experience has been that local upholstery shops, particularly those who do automotive or marine work, ought to be able to reupholster your furniture.  There are a number of companies that make urethane-faced fabrics of the sort that are used in RVs (the best known of these is Ultraleather).  Again, my experience has been that you get what you pay for with respect to fabrics.  As for the skill of the shop you choose, that's something only you will be able to decide by looking at examples of their work.
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