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Today I drove from Pahrump, NV to Needles, CA to get some paperwork done at their friendly DMV office.

I filled up in Pahrump for $2.219 per gallon (regular).  Las Vegas gas prices ranged from $2.31 to $2.59 per gallon.  I passed them by.

Arriving in Needles, Shell, Mobil and Chevron wanted $3.799 per gallon.

I did my business at the DMV, then headed north across the river into Arizona on US 95.

A half mile north of the bridge was a Mobil station at $2.799 per gallon ... a full buck a gallon less than on the CA side of the river.

Another half mile north was an Arco selling regular for $2.049.  I stuffed both the motorhome's and the toad's tanks.   ;D  ;D
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Re: Needles, CA gas prices ... What a difference a couple of miles makes!
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2017, 08:39:29 pm »
And if you think gas is expensive in Needles buy some water in the summer time in Needles. It is more expensive than gas :o
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Re: Needles, CA gas prices ... What a difference a couple of miles makes!
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2017, 08:41:42 pm »
It doesn't help that California has very high gas taxes...as are the vehicle registration fees.
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Re: Needles, CA gas prices ... What a difference a couple of miles makes!
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2017, 09:00:08 pm »
Needles has ALWAYS been the gas ripoff capital, and not because of California's gas tax but just because they can get away with it. Tires and auto repairs in Needles are also ripoffs.
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Re: Needles, CA gas prices ... What a difference a couple of miles makes!
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2017, 09:11:48 pm »
And Gov. Brown wants a .17 per gallon increase in the gas tax.
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Re: Needles, CA gas prices ... What a difference a couple of miles makes!
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2017, 12:07:03 am »
as are the vehicle registration fees.

I thought so too, until I checked the registration fees in Nevada!!  OMG, I nearly fainted!
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Re: Needles, CA gas prices ... What a difference a couple of miles makes!
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2017, 12:59:09 am »
Needles has ALWAYS been the gas ripoff capital, and not because of California's gas tax but just because they can get away with it. Tires and auto repairs in Needles are also ripoffs.

I agree. There is a station on the east exit that try's to tell you your tires are bad. 

The gas has always been sky high in that area.
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Re: Needles, CA gas prices ... What a difference a couple of miles makes!
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2017, 06:48:59 am »
We drove there on a day trip out of Quartzsite last month. Diesel prices were above $3.79 at one place, and over $4.00 at another! Like the others, we crossed the border and prices got reasonable. I did note Needles was significantly more than the other California border towns we went to, so I guess they just have their audience dialed in. They couldn't keep such prices if people didn't buy at them.
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Re: Needles, CA gas prices ... What a difference a couple of miles makes!
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2017, 04:57:59 pm »
Just left there.  Gas is always cheaper just across the river.

We saw an independent station on Tribal land, AZ side of the river, at $1.97 for unleaded.
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Re: Needles, CA gas prices ... What a difference a couple of miles makes!
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2017, 07:45:02 pm »
And Gov. Brown wants a .17 per gallon increase in the gas tax.
as I understand he got it.
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Re: Needles, CA gas prices ... What a difference a couple of miles makes!
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2017, 07:59:17 pm »
Quote from: Wendy
Needles has ALWAYS been the gas ripoff capital, and not because of California's gas tax but just because they can get away with it.

Lou previously explained that Needles was the furthest stop in CA for gas deliveries, and thus the high prices.
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Re: Needles, CA gas prices ... What a difference a couple of miles makes!
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2017, 08:33:08 pm »
Lou previously explained that Needles was the furthest stop in CA for gas deliveries, and thus the high prices.


Hmmm, don't see that in this thread. But my post was partly about the high gas prices in Needles not being caused solely by California taxes. And Needles isn't far enough at the end of the gas supply line to account for $1+ per gallon more than, say, Blythe. Needles has just always been much much higher for gas than anywhere else, as long as I can remember, going back to the early 70s.
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Re: Needles, CA gas prices ... What a difference a couple of miles makes!
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2017, 08:38:45 pm »
Supply and demand at work.
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Re: Needles, CA gas prices ... What a difference a couple of miles makes!
« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2017, 09:49:20 pm »
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Hmmm, don't see that in this thread.

Didn't say it was in this topic  ;)
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Re: Needles, CA gas prices ... What a difference a couple of miles makes!
« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2017, 06:56:48 am »
I always check Gasbuddy.com before buying fuel and then don't worry why one place is higher than the other.
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Re: Needles, CA gas prices ... What a difference a couple of miles makes!
« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2017, 07:06:09 am »
Why don't people get together and boycott the stations in Needles. Are the stations in Arizona close enough to do this?
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Re: Needles, CA gas prices ... What a difference a couple of miles makes!
« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2017, 07:17:06 am »
    I just checked the prices on one of our gas stations, it happens to be in the area where many of the rental cars are returned. Many tourists do their last fill up there before returning their cars and never notice that the price for regular gas is ...$4.59/gal while the price of fuel near my house is $2.13 at WAWA
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Re: Needles, CA gas prices ... What a difference a couple of miles makes!
« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2017, 10:32:05 am »
I always check Gasbuddy.com before buying fuel and then don't worry why one place is higher than the other.

I have the Gasbuddy app on my phone and use it regularly, even locally. It's pretty eye opening sometimes the difference a few miles can make.
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Re: Needles, CA gas prices ... What a difference a couple of miles makes!
« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2017, 02:44:12 pm »
Come on up to Canada it twice as much.
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« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2017, 06:31:25 pm »
Come on up to Canada it twice as much.


why is that?
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Re: Needles, CA gas prices ... What a difference a couple of miles makes!
« Reply #20 on: February 17, 2017, 09:47:39 am »
It is true that gasoline can cost more up here but... it can be confusing when trying to compare prices.

Fuel is sold by the liter and not the US gallon, (1 US Gallon is about 3.78 liters). There is a difference in the $ exchange rate which changes all the time, currently $1.00 US costs us $1.325 Canadian.  The price per liter for gasoline changes almost daily, not unlike many places in the US. Diesel, on the other hand, often costs slightly less than gasoline, at least recently here in Montreal. Taxes vary a lot between the various Provinces contributing to the price/liter differences. Currently in Montreal, gasoline prices are running between $1.14 to $1.20 per liter but has been up to $1.25 in recent weeks.

After all that: at $1.14 /liter,  1 US Gallon is costing about $3.28US
                    at $1.20/liter                   "                         $3.45US (in Montreal and if my math holds up!!!)
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Re: Needles, CA gas prices ... What a difference a couple of miles makes!
« Reply #21 on: March 02, 2017, 12:20:32 pm »
We struggle with gas/diesel prices on a daily, weekly basis.

We live and work right in the heart of the Mojave National Preserve going on 10 years now (one of only a handful of people, less than 8 of us, who reside out here in the desert boonies)
We are literally 100 miles from anywhere..in any direction. The closest gas station is some 40 miles away.
Needles, CA is some 90 miles east from us. Henderson, NV is 86 miles north of us. Barstow is 105 miles south west..Twentynine Palms is 90 miles away.

On the very 'rare' occasion that we get super low on fuel (we make a point of filling up/topping off before coming home) we find ourselves at the mercy of places like Cima, CA, Baker, CA, and/or Ludlow, CA all of which are some 40-50 miles away from us, as our only options and let me tell ya...if you think Needles, CA is expensive, you should check out the one and only gas station at Cima, CA. They run about $3 a gallon MORE than the gas stations in Baker, CA which run about $1-2 MORE than anywhere else.

The thing about Needles, CA being that the gas it outrageous is....well being that it's in California for one is a reason in itself. 
CA gas prices generally run higher right from the get-go....taxes and whatnot.

TIP: if you find yourself in Needles again and need gas, simply drive over the bridge there in Needles, CA as this will put you in AZ...there is a gas station located right there on the other side and is approx. $1-2 cheaper per gallon than Needles, CA
A lot of folk don't realize that there are other gas stations right across the bridge in AZ, less than a mile away.

These days, we fill up our truck at the truck stop in Primm, NV (50 miles away) as we do all of our shopping (groceries, etc) in Henderson, or Las Vegas, NV
Their diesel prices actually only run about 10-25 cents more than Henderson/Las Vegas diesel so it's not too bad...

Not that long ago when the 'average' CA gas prices were hovering around $4.00 per gallon, the Cima Gas station was selling it at close to $9.00 a gallon.  :o :o :o :o
I still don't understand how they get away with doing that...I can understand, to a point, a small increase in pricing to offset this and that, ...but that's just gouging, plain and simple.
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Re: Needles, CA gas prices ... What a difference a couple of miles makes!
« Reply #22 on: March 02, 2017, 03:54:54 pm »
It is true that gasoline can cost more up here but... it can be confusing when trying to compare prices.

Fuel is sold by the liter and not the US gallon, (1 US Gallon is about 3.78 liters). There is a difference in the $ exchange rate which changes all the time, currently $1.00 US costs us $1.325 Canadian.  The price per liter for gasoline changes almost daily, not unlike many places in the US. Diesel, on the other hand, often costs slightly less than gasoline, at least recently here in Montreal. Taxes vary a lot between the various Provinces contributing to the price/liter differences. Currently in Montreal, gasoline prices are running between $1.14 to $1.20 per liter but has been up to $1.25 in recent weeks.

After all that: at $1.14 /liter,  1 US Gallon is costing about $3.28US
                    at $1.20/liter                   "                         $3.45US (in Montreal and if my math holds up!!!)

I live 14 miles south of the Canadian border,and always fighting the Canadians at the local Costco for gas  :)

But,it hasn't always been that way.
Back in the 80's I had a pickup with three tanks that held a total of about 55 gallons.
I would drive across the border every time I needed to fill up,and save myself quite a bit of money.

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Re: Needles, CA gas prices ... What a difference a couple of miles makes!
« Reply #23 on: March 03, 2017, 09:27:36 am »
I have seen major price differences in as little as 1-2 miles in MI, in fact "Accross the road". If the road is 8 Mile.. Detroit to the south, Oakland County to the north  10-15 cents per gallon not uncommon, and all you do is cross the road.
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Re: Needles, CA gas prices ... What a difference a couple of miles makes!
« Reply #24 on: March 04, 2017, 03:50:59 pm »
Another vote for Gas Buddy.  I'll never be without it!
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