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adun015

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Flat Towing F-250
« on: March 17, 2017, 07:59:31 AM »
I have a 2001 Winnebago 36cd and the information I find shows it at 5K towing capacity. The chassis is a freightliner XC. My question, what is the calcuation that would limit the towing capacity to 5K. I recently purchased a F-250 diesel with manual transaxle and found that it can be flat towed but the weight is around 6,700 lbs which exceeds the recommendation I find for the Winnebago.
I would really like to be able to tow this vehicle but don't want to if it is not possible. I know that some of the other freightliner XC chassis which on information provided seem to be the same but have higher tow capacity.
Want to be safe as I still have another tow vehicle but curious minds want to know.
Alan Dunn
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Re: Flat Towing F-250
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2017, 08:21:49 AM »
You may want to run that F-250 across some scales to find the actual weight. Mine weighs more than that and it's a gasser.
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Re: Flat Towing F-250
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2017, 08:31:52 AM »
Winnebago probably used a Class III hitch.  Traditionally a Class III receiver hitch is good for trailers up to 5000 pounds and 500 pounds tongue weight.
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Re: Flat Towing F-250
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2017, 09:38:09 AM »
The Freightliner chassis under your coach is almost assuredly rated to tow 10,000 lbs. Find the weight placard (usually in a cabinet somewhere) and the GVWR & GCWR values. The chassis tow capacity is the difference between GVWR and GCWR. I don't think Freightliner makes that model of chassis with anything less than 10,000 lbs of tow rating.  That would mean that Winnebago skimped on the receiver and installed one with a 5000 lb limit, so it should be upgradeable to a 10,000 lb model as long as there is a way to attach it directly to the Freightliner chassis. Sometimes, however, the coach builder puts a lighter duty extension on the back of the base chassis and that is the reason for a lower-rated receiver.. Have a qualified hitch shop check it out before committing to buying the upgrade.

The 2001 Itasca Horizon brochure does indeed show a 5000# hitch receiver.
https://winnebagoind.com/resources/brochure/2001/01-Horizon-bro.pdf

Forgive me for quibbling, but your F250 does not have a transaxle - they are used only on front-wheel-drive vehicles. I think you meant it has a manual 4WD transfer case, a different thing than a transaxle.
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Re: Flat Towing F-250
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2017, 10:44:41 AM »
The Freightliner chassis under your coach is almost assuredly rated to tow 10,000 lbs. Find the weight placard (usually in a cabinet somewhere) and the GVWR & GCWR values. The chassis tow capacity is the difference between GVWR and GCWR. I don't think Freightliner makes that model of chassis with anything less than 10,000 lbs of tow rating.  That would mean that Winnebago skimped on the receiver and installed one with a 5000 lb limit, so it should be upgradeable to a 10,000 lb model as long as there is a way to attach it directly to the Freightliner chassis. Sometimes, however, the coach builder puts a lighter duty extension on the back of the base chassis and that is the reason for a lower-rated receiver.. Have a qualified hitch shop check it out before committing to buying the upgrade.

The 2001 Itasca Horizon brochure does indeed show a 5000# hitch receiver.
https://winnebagoind.com/resources/brochure/2001/01-Horizon-bro.pdf

Forgive me for quibbling, but your F250 does not have a transaxle - they are used only on front-wheel-drive vehicles. I think you meant is has a manual 4WD transfer case, a different thing than a transaxle.

Thank you, this is what I was hoping to hear.
You are correct manual transfer case, my bad :)
Alan Dunn
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Re: Flat Towing F-250
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2017, 11:58:11 AM »
Take that truck to a truck scale because I'm certain it weighs more than 6,700.  I have a 2013 F250 diesel crew cab, short bed, and it weighed 8,000 at the scales.

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Re: Flat Towing F-250
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2017, 01:08:02 PM »
Take that truck to a truck scale because I'm certain it weighs more than 6,700.  I have a 2013 F250 diesel crew cab, short bed, and it weighed 8,000 at the scales.

Yep, my F-250 gasser is 7100# with no passengers. Mine is a crew cab though. OP didn't give the configuration of his.
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Re: Flat Towing F-250
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2017, 06:38:07 PM »
Take that truck to a truck scale because I'm certain it weighs more than 6,700.  I have a 2013 F250 diesel crew cab, short bed, and it weighed 8,000 at the scales.

X3  Get it scaled.  My '13 F350 Supercab Long bed Diesel weighs 8,000#.  I bet you will be at least 7500#.
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Re: Flat Towing F-250
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2017, 10:29:33 AM »
I once owned a 1999 F250 XLT diesel (Supercab longbed) that had a real curb weight of 6700, so Alan may be in the right ballpark. Later modes got quite a bit heavier, though, and brochure curb weights don't include any options either. Lariat trim, for example, typically adds a couple hundred lbs.
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Re: Flat Towing F-250
« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2017, 04:17:17 PM »
2016 F-250 diesel crew cab. I did make a mistake I looked at the gasser curb weight which is 6,700 the diesel version is 700 more at 7,400. Sorry for the confusion. The newer Ford trucks are using aluminum in a lot of the body. Ups the torque and HP for the newer models with the 6.7 turbo diesel.
Alan Dunn
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