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Baxter427

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50 amp site vs. 30
« on: April 05, 2017, 11:34:30 PM »
Hi all. I have our first weekend booked with our new RV. I just noticed the site I booked is 50 amp. Our TY is only 30. Will the site possibly have 30 as well or only 50. Should I buy a 50 to 30 converter just in case?  Thanks

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Re: 50 amp site vs. 30
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2017, 11:47:22 PM »
In my experience, most newer sites that have 50 amp also have a 30 and a smaller amp plug in on the pedestal. But it never hurts to have a 50amp male  to 30 amp female dogbone connector on hand just in case you need it. I have a 30 amp system as well, it's come in handy a time or two.

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Re: 50 amp site vs. 30
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2017, 05:39:31 AM »
Why not call the park and ask them.
 Years ago that is what I did, and at that time the 50's there didn't have 30's, but the park store sold the converting jumper

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Re: 50 amp site vs. 30
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2017, 05:50:43 AM »
The answer to all your questions in the original post is YES
The site shoudl have a 30 amp outelt, and a 15/20 amp as well (GFCI protected)

And yes you should buy an adapter.... Or two... Just in case.

Now if the site is good, the 30 amp outlet is likely good. but I've seen sites where the 30 amp outlet was a bit nasty.. On that site you use your adapter and the 50 amp plug.
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Re: 50 amp site vs. 30
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2017, 06:17:59 AM »
Buy the adapter, then you always have it if neeed. Go to WalMart, and it will probably cost less than half of what a campground would charge.

John, why on earth would someone need two?
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Baxter427

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Re: 50 amp site vs. 30
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2017, 07:30:53 AM »
I see two different type. One with two plugs and some length of wire between. The other is just an adapter. Either one work?

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Re: 50 amp site vs. 30
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2017, 07:37:45 AM »
I see two different type. One with two plugs and some length of wire between. The other is just an adapter. Either one work?

Either one will work, I prefer the short adaptor. On the one I have there are no wires to break like the other style with the wire could do. Highly unlikely, but it could fail.
This is the one I have. I disassembled it and there are no wires inside to fail. Just solid strips of steel. I also purchased the one for 30 to 50. They are pricy but they're a quality product just like their surge protector which I also purchased.

http://www.progressiveindustries.net/50-30adapter

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Re: 50 amp site vs. 30
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2017, 09:34:32 AM »
The drawback of the adapters without a wire is heat. If either side heats up a bit under near-max load (and that happens), the solid type can actually melt down.  The kind with 8-12" of wire in-between sheds heat better. Loads over 24 amps will generate quite a bit of heat - the 30A rating is only for short durations.  But as Rene says, the wires will eventually break due to flexing.

I've also seen oddball campground outlet boxes where the solid type simply didn't fit well. The wire type typically has a smaller male end and fits in those.

None of these differences are worth agonizing about - pick one and go for it.
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Re: 50 amp site vs. 30
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2017, 11:20:43 AM »
Hi all. I have our first weekend booked with our new RV. I just noticed the site I booked is 50 amp. Our TY is only 30. Will the site possibly have 30 as well or only 50. Should I buy a 50 to 30 converter just in case?  Thanks

Baxter427
As others have said...most campsites with "50A electric" have a 50A, a 30A and a 20A receptacle in the shore power pedestal.
(However I suggest you carry an assortment of electrical adapters "just in case").

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Re: 50 amp site vs. 30
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2020, 01:19:53 PM »
 :)new to RVing and noticed sites available are 50A. so bot an adapter, just in case

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Re: 50 amp site vs. 30
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2020, 04:46:28 AM »
Hi all. I have our first weekend booked with our new RV. I just noticed the site I booked is 50 amp. Our TY is only 30. Will the site possibly have 30 as well or only 50. Should I buy a 50 to 30 converter just in case?  Thanks

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Re: 50 amp site vs. 30
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2020, 12:36:55 PM »
Another reason to have an adapter is the occasional situation where it is hot outside and everyone is using power for AC.  (This happened a few days ago in my current Florida campsite when temps got to 90.) 

Sometimes when that happens, you will find that on 30 amps, you will blow fuses if you use both the AC and the microwave or a hair dryer at the same time.  In that case, you go outside and use your converter to hook up to the 50 amp outlet. 

This is a trick a lot of experienced campers already know, but in this situation the campground owner actually came around and suggested we switch to 50 amps as the 30 amp plugs were having trouble distributing enough power.  Apparently they were getting a lot of complaints from people. 
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Re: 50 amp site vs. 30
« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2020, 08:08:50 AM »
Hi all. I have our first weekend booked with our new RV. I just noticed the site I booked is 50 amp. Our TY is only 30. Will the site possibly have 30 as well or only 50. Should I buy a 50 to 30 converter just in case?  Thanks

all you need and EVERY RV'er should have, is the proper adaptor plugs.  My rig is 30amp but I connect to a 50amp, a 30amp or a 20amp service as I have all the adaptors
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Re: 50 amp site vs. 30
« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2020, 02:06:32 PM »
Maybe it's overkill, but I have two 50 to 30 amp adapters, letting me connect my 30 amp RV to either side of the 50 amp plug.

Being able to select which hot lead to use can be handy if the 30 amp users are dragging down one of the hot leads in a park, leaving the other at full voltage.

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Re: 50 amp site vs. 30
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2020, 06:12:56 AM »
Maybe it's overkill, but I have two 50 to 30 amp adapters, letting me connect my 30 amp RV to either side of the 50 amp plug.

Being able to select which hot lead to use can be handy if the 30 amp users are dragging down one of the hot leads in a park, leaving the other at full voltage.

Lou,

Did you "MacGuyver" your plug yourself.  I see the hot lead reference in your reply above.  Can you explain with URL to products?

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« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2020, 12:27:44 PM »
I happened to get a second 50 to 30 amp adapter when I purchased my Hall Chaparral  motorhome (already had one from my previous RV).  One day when I had too much time on my hands I used an ohmmeter to trace how they were wired - and found they used opposite hot pins on the 50 amp plug.

So I kept both of them and put a dab of paint on each one to show which hot pin is active.
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« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2020, 06:22:03 PM »
If I were to buy a 2nd 30-50 (I carry one for safety's sake. A Camco) I'd take my trusty ohmmeter and figure out which leg it connected to.... Make sure it's not the one my current one connects to.

WHY.> never know when one leg will be bad but the other good and you never know which leg.

I carry a 30 amp shore cord, a 50 amp shore cord (50 amp RV) and adapters both ways.. Last time I used the 30-50 it was a neighbor and as it turned out the next day (not related) I woke up "Sicker than a dog" as the saying goes (My normal winter cold times 10) (This year is making up for it, Normal winter cold times 1/10)  The problem was his 30 amp plug had short blades.  he got his own adapter and left mine on the seat of my car for me (I was very glad he did that).

Reason I carry a full set. Never know when someone will need one, heck, have been on sites where I needed every inch of extension cord, both 30 and 50, to get to the outlet. (I also carry one each extension cord 30 and 50 plug a 30 to octo-box (8 outlets) from the old old old days.
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Re: 50 amp site vs. 30
« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2020, 08:03:45 PM »
Interesting.

Thanks.

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Re: 50 amp site vs. 30
« Reply #18 on: April 11, 2020, 04:28:11 PM »
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Re: 50 amp site vs. 30
« Reply #19 on: April 11, 2020, 07:44:37 PM »
The small 50/30 hockey pucks are prone to failure. Use a corded version.
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