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odieyodie

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Need Toad Advice
« on: April 13, 2017, 11:57:32 AM »
I have a 2017 Journey 36m with a 360 Cummins.  My wife wants a new toad with 3 seats (7 passenger).  Which new vehicle can I realistically flat tow with my coach.  I know about calculating weights but I would like advice from someone who has actually pulled one with this type of RV. :)

Mile High

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Re: Need Toad Advice
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2017, 12:30:18 PM »
We looked at an Expedition.  Also the Expedition XL.  The newer 4x4 Expeditions (>2014) are flat towable exactly the same as the F-150.  (the electronic transfer case shift has a neutral achieved by a specific sequence - then it reads Flat Tow Enabled).   Pretty cool system.

The 2x4 Expeditions are not towable without removing or disconnecting driveshaft.

Our 2014 Expedition is not flat towable, or even towable.

It was either replace our Expedition with 11,000 miles, or replace my old Jeep with a Wrangler and because its only 3 of us we opted for the Wrangler.
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Terry A. Brewer

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Re: Need Toad Advice
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2017, 05:19:51 PM »

John Canfield

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Re: Need Toad Advice
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2017, 06:43:28 AM »
Ford Fusion hybrid or the Lincoln MKZ version. Towing it 4-down is really complex - put the gear selector in neutral. Tow away. Blue Ox makes the tow brackets for these models.
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Gary RV_Wizard

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Re: Need Toad Advice
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2017, 07:52:56 AM »
Your Journey can tow most any toad safely and easily, so focus on what suits your needs and budget the best.

My personal choices for a 7-passenger toad would be a GMC Acadia, Chevy Traverse or Ford Explorer or Flex. All 4-down towable and very comfortable.  Also Buick Enclave if she wants a more luxurious vehicle.
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odieyodie

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Re: Need Toad Advice
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2017, 10:53:39 AM »
Thanks for the ideas. Is the 360 cummins powerful enough to easily pull something as large as an expedition

Mile High

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Re: Need Toad Advice
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2017, 11:10:37 AM »
Curb weight is 5,700 lbs on my Expedition, not sure what the actual weight is as I never weighed it.  I don't have enough experience with a DP to answer your question, but I see 1/2 ton trucks towed by the 360.  We camped with a fella with the full size chev pickup behind his 360 Tiffin and he raved about it, but I know that is 1/2 beer, 1/2 Testosterone :)

Our Expedition is very roomy for 7-8 adults, but if you can get by with an Explorer size, I wouldn't bother with the Expedition. 
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Re: Need Toad Advice
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2017, 12:07:47 PM »
Plenty of power, unless you feel the need to always be the first one to the top of the hill.

As a rule of thumb. motorhomes give adequate (though not thrilling) performance if they have about 1 hp for every 100 lbs of loaded weight. Therefore a 360 hp diesel can comfortably pull around 36,000 lbs of motorhome & toad. By comparison, your car probably has about 1 hp for every 15-20 lbs of weight, which is why the motorhome is not as sprightly as your car.
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