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where in your MH would be the best place to hide from the possible killers?

The only place I can think of is in the bedroom under the lift up part of the bed.  I doubt they would think of looking there or even realize the bed lift up unless they owned a MH themselves.  Is there any other place I am forgetting about where you might hide for a few minutes?  Or maybe even sneak out of in the back while they were breaking into the front door.

I know some of you would grab your gun first, but boy I would hate to kill someone not knowing who they were or who they might be related to in that town or county.  As they said in the movie Deliverance, the whole county might know and/or be related to the person you shot.  If I had to do that, I doubt I would wait around for the police if I could safely just start my rig and head off down the rode with no one being the wiser.  Would have to make sure you didn't leave any witnesses though.
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Re: If someone was breaking into your MH to possibly hurt or kill you,
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2017, 11:21:04 PM »
Easy..I would turn into the invisable man.........
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Re: If someone was breaking into your MH to possibly hurt or kill you,
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2017, 12:18:20 AM »
I think you answered your own question. However, I'd hope those with guns will have a carry license and the training to shoot only when their life is in danger. Probably a good idea to keep local law enforcement's phone number instead of just 911.

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Re: If someone was breaking into your MH to possibly hurt or kill you,
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2017, 12:20:37 AM »
I would say that I would have to hide behind the sights of my 45. Break into my house/RV, you are taking your chances.
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Re: If someone was breaking into your MH to possibly hurt or kill you,
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2017, 03:57:13 AM »
Seriously??  If you're that worried about people out to get you, I suggest you stay holed up in your fortified house.  Not outdoors in a flimsy RV.

It's extremely unlikely someone would actually break into an occupied RV unless you're doing something really stupid like parking overnight in the worst part of a city.

But if I was in a motor home and something outside made me nervous, the place I'd be is in the drivers seat preparing to drive away.  If someone was actually trying to get into the RV, I'd be blaring the horn and turning on every outside light including the headlights.  Most bad guys operate on stealth, start making a bunch of noise and they'll scatter like the rats they are.
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Re: If someone was breaking into your MH to possibly hurt or kill you,
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2017, 06:06:57 AM »
I agree with Lou on the likely hood of that happening is slim to none. As he said, make some noise. One can use a portable air horn, and if it's dark, one of those new LED strobe flashlights.
That said,   I'm with Marty. I would have them singing Shinedown,  "no real reason to accept the way things have changed, staring down the barrel of a .45"
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Re: If someone was breaking into your MH to possibly hurt or kill you,
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2017, 06:44:54 AM »
Most motor homes have two emergency exits, one on either side.. If the hostile is trying to break in .. Use the one he can not seer and make tracks for a place of safety.. also 9-1-1 on his ....er... anatomy and let the professionals adjust either his attitude, or his altitude, or both.

(Two things in life are all important, A positive altitude and a verticle attitude, if the bad guy refuses to "Drop the weapon" then the police officer may introduce him to -6' Horizontal and frankly.. that sucks.). 
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Re: If someone was breaking into your MH to possibly hurt or kill you,
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2017, 07:14:42 AM »
I think you answered your own question. However, I'd hope those with guns will have a carry license and the training to shoot only when their life is in danger. Probably a good idea to keep local law enforcement's phone number instead of just 911.
A concealed carry license is no longer required in Missouri.  In your situation, give a verbal warning that you are armed and will shoot. If that is ignored the Castle Doctrine applies and one less criminal will be present on this earth.  When it comes to lives, I refuse to hide if I have the means to resist.

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Re: If someone was breaking into your MH to possibly hurt or kill you,
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2017, 07:17:44 AM »
My first thought is........is this a legitimate question or do we have a full blown "troll in progress"?  Let's get that sorted out before any of us waste anymore time with this!
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Re: If someone was breaking into your MH to possibly hurt or kill you,
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2017, 07:30:49 AM »
Actual entry would be very noisy in any RV. Fire 3 warning shots center mass to the AH. If the person continues to act hostile then get serious, 3 shots to the head. At some point feel free to whisper ex police officer.


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Re: If someone was breaking into your MH to possibly hurt or kill you,
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2017, 07:35:11 AM »
A surprising [to me] number of people seem to have concerns like this, but I'm not one of them. Some carry weapons, others rely on alarms and "safe rooms" or escape. Driving away is the best means of self-protection, but that assumes you have at least a few minutes warning. It's too late when you hear the glass breaking.

In any case, there is no place in any RV that is remotely safe or effective for hiding.  If it comes to pass, either bail out the emergency exit or start making peace with your god.
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Re: If someone was breaking into your MH to possibly hurt or kill you,
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2017, 07:35:44 AM »
Only thing I will add is that if they are breaking in, I would not be worried about their safety
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Re: If someone was breaking into your MH to possibly hurt or kill you,
« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2017, 07:44:08 AM »
In 74 years of camping and RV'ing, I've never been in a situation where I felt threatened by any two-legged critter and I don't intend to start worrying about it now. Situational awareness is the only "weapon" I carry. If where I am just doesn't feel right, I don't stay there...
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Re: If someone was breaking into your MH to possibly hurt or kill you,
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2017, 07:56:40 AM »
Ya, I can just see me opening the bed, unloading everything in there so me and my DW can hide and not be heard while doing this. I'm just like Marty, I would simply hide behind my 380 Ruger. It would bother me to have to shoot someone but I think it would only last a few seconds.
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Re: If someone was breaking into your MH to possibly hurt or kill you,
« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2017, 08:04:03 AM »
Does anyone know the laws carrying a firearm across state lines?

I think a national carry permit is being debated now but I believe you have to abide by each states individual laws right now.  Meaning that even if you have a concealed permit it won't be recognized in another state.  However, is a MH considered your "castle" or home which are under different laws as opposed to having a weapon in your Subaru??

I am not a lawyer so the laws are confusing.
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Re: If someone was breaking into your MH to possibly hurt or kill you,
« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2017, 08:44:53 AM »
Does anyone know the laws carrying a firearm across state lines?
I am not a lawyer so the laws are confusing.


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https://www.amazon.com/Travelers-Guide-Firearm-Fifty-States/dp/097254898X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1495287738&sr=8-1&keywords=50+state+carry+laws
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Re: If someone was breaking into your MH to possibly hurt or kill you,
« Reply #16 on: May 20, 2017, 10:17:39 AM »
I think Lou's response is the best. I know some people who won't sleep in tents because the boogie man might slice the fabric and get them. I recommend they stay in cabins or just stay out of the outdoors altogether. This sounds like an equivalent thing.
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Re: If someone was breaking into your MH to possibly hurt or kill you,
« Reply #17 on: May 20, 2017, 10:53:27 AM »
Agree that situational awareness is your best defense = know where you are and if uncomfortable move on...as for guns - mine is by my side most of the time and rest assured there would be one verbal warning followed immediately by a warning shot, then if they don't leave or begin to run - then the rest of the magazine will be emptied.


As for carry permits - I have one in a long forgotten state (my domicile does not require one) and quite frankly I am currently in a state that is very unfriendly to gun owners...however, I would much rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6...


I have never been in a place where I felt uncomfortable and sleep well at night, mainly for being aware of my surroundings.


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Re: If someone was breaking into your MH to possibly hurt or kill you,
« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2017, 11:11:22 AM »
Where to hide large sums of money,what to name the MH,now how to avoid burglars?  I just don't think the RV life is for some people.  Or maybe RV forums are not for everybody. 
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Re: If someone was breaking into your MH to possibly hurt or kill you,
« Reply #20 on: May 20, 2017, 11:44:49 AM »
I would think I would have time to get behind the door in the back bathroom and exit the escape window out the side.  But that's just me - I have two other family members and we could never all 3 get out with any diligence to avoid trouble........so the .45 serves as the initial barrier.
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Re: If someone was breaking into your MH to possibly hurt or kill you,
« Reply #21 on: May 20, 2017, 01:31:50 PM »
For those of you with guns, do be careful who you shoot.  Several years ago, my neighbor and I lived in second story condos.  We each had a private front door and an open stairway leading up to our units.  You could look down to see who was coming in your door.

So, after midnight one evening, one of my neighbors heard the front door open and close, but no one come up the stairs.  She got up to see what was going on, peeked down the stairs, and saw an elderly man taking off his shoes and pants just inside her door. He was sitting on one of the steps, struggling to remove his shoes. She called the police and it turned out she had left her door unlocked and an elderly man with Alzheimer's had wandered off and thought he was home.  His wife was very happy to get him back.   
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Re: If someone was breaking into your MH to possibly hurt or kill you,
« Reply #22 on: May 20, 2017, 02:08:46 PM »
For those of you with guns, do be careful who you shoot.  Several years ago, my neighbor and I lived in second story condos.  We each had a private front door and an open stairway leading up to our units.  You could look down to see who was coming in your door.

So, after midnight one evening, one of my neighbors heard the front door open and close, but no one come up the stairs.  She got up to see what was going on, peeked down the stairs, and saw an elderly man taking off his shoes and pants just inside her door. He was sitting on one of the steps, struggling to remove his shoes. She called the police and it turned out she had left her door unlocked and an elderly man with Alzheimer's had wandered off and thought he was home.  His wife was very happy to get him back.

He didn't sound like he was much of a threat so I would not have shot first then ask questions after.
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Jeff in Ferndale Wa

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Re: If someone was breaking into your MH to possibly hurt or kill you,
« Reply #23 on: May 20, 2017, 02:23:07 PM »
If I felt my life was in danger I would not hide, I would protect myself with any means available.
In my case it's a Taurus Judge .45/.410 revolver
I load the first three chambers with self defense .410 shotgun rounds, and the other two with .45 Colt in case the shotgun rounds don't stop the threat.
I use the shotgun rounds because they are less likely to go through the walls and into the neighboring RV.
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Re: If someone was breaking into your MH to possibly hurt or kill you,
« Reply #24 on: May 20, 2017, 02:54:06 PM »
Seriously??  If you're that worried about people out to get you, I suggest you stay holed up in your fortified house.  Not outdoors in a flimsy RV.

It's extremely unlikely someone would actually break into an occupied RV unless you're doing something really stupid like parking overnight in the worst part of a city.

But if I was in a motor home and something outside made me nervous, the place I'd be is in the drivers seat preparing to drive away.  If someone was actually trying to get into the RV, I'd be blaring the horn and turning on every outside light including the headlights.  Most bad guys operate on stealth, start making a bunch of noise and they'll scatter like the rats they are.

That is a good answer.  Maybe the best thing one should do.  I just wonder when in great fear if that is what most would think of to do.
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Re: If someone was breaking into your MH to possibly hurt or kill you,
« Reply #25 on: May 20, 2017, 03:00:05 PM »

Mandatory reading for those carrying:


https://www.amazon.com/Travelers-Guide-Firearm-Fifty-States/dp/097254898X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1495287738&sr=8-1&keywords=50+state+carry+laws

Thanks, that seems like a must read.  Just hope it would stay up to date for a while at least.
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Re: If someone was breaking into your MH to possibly hurt or kill you,
« Reply #26 on: May 20, 2017, 03:04:57 PM »
For those of you with guns, do be careful who you shoot.  Several years ago, my neighbor and I lived in second story condos.  We each had a private front door and an open stairway leading up to our units.  You could look down to see who was coming in your door.

So, after midnight one evening, one of my neighbors heard the front door open and close, but no one come up the stairs.  She got up to see what was going on, peeked down the stairs, and saw an elderly man taking off his shoes and pants just inside her door. He was sitting on one of the steps, struggling to remove his shoes. She called the police and it turned out she had left her door unlocked and an elderly man with Alzheimer's had wandered off and thought he was home.  His wife was very happy to get him back.   

That is funny in so many ways.
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Re: If someone was breaking into your MH to possibly hurt or kill you,
« Reply #27 on: May 20, 2017, 03:31:58 PM »
If I felt my life was in danger I would not hide, I would protect myself with any means available.
In my case it's a Taurus Judge .45/.410 revolver
I load the first three chambers with self defense .410 shotgun rounds, and the other two with .45 Colt in case the shotgun rounds don't stop the threat.
I use the shotgun rounds because they are less likely to go through the walls and into the neighboring RV.

I never knew there was such a gun.  I have just now been looking at the local gun shop.  I feel most comfortable with a simple small 5 or 6 shot S&W .357 revolver.
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Re: If someone was breaking into your MH to possibly hurt or kill you,
« Reply #28 on: May 20, 2017, 07:36:46 PM »
I never knew there was such a gun.  I have just now been looking at the local gun shop.  I feel most comfortable with a simple small 5 or 6 shot S&W .357 revolver.

I have a six shot .357 and a 5 shot .38 as well.
Judge is primarily carried in the RV.

Here is a link to the Taurus web site:
 http://www.taurususa.com/gun-selector-results.cfm?series=JDG&toggle=tr

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Re: If someone was breaking into your MH to possibly hurt or kill you,
« Reply #29 on: May 20, 2017, 09:41:02 PM »
A number of years back an older couple were never seen again after travelling in their motorhome which the police found burnt out in a provincial park. After that I purchased a nice fold up 22 rifle for protection. We were planning a trip to the US so I went to our local police and asked them about taking the gun into the States. I was told no problem just declare it at the border. We arrived at the border and were asked the usual question, any fruits or vegetable, no I said, but I do have a gun. Right away, "you can't bring that in here". I then asked if I could leave it with them and pick it up on our return. His response was yes, you can leave it with us and we will crush it for you. That was it, we returned back to Canada and I left the rifle with friends until we came back. Thank you local police for the stupid advice.

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