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Re: Cargo trailer conversion project
« Reply #30 on: June 27, 2017, 02:08:29 PM »
Lol

Made the mistake of ordering my furnace from rvpartsnation. It's listed as waiting to ship for 2 weeks now. I looked them up online and tons of complaints.

I ran into the same thing doing my rebuild.  RV/mobile home suppliers.  Everything was "in stock" until the order was placed.  I must have cancelled a half dozen orders over a couple months.

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Re: Cargo trailer conversion project
« Reply #31 on: June 27, 2017, 08:26:34 PM »
Yes, going to put windows in. One on the side over my head in bed. One over sink/stove area and maybe a large one on other side. My living room looks like a storage area and tomorrow I can't say, everything but the kitchen sink cause it shows up from UPS.

I work in a lab as a software engineer with about 50 PhD scientists who do research on just about anything. I have many of them involved in this process. I got tons of advice on convection, heat distribution and lectured on propane anything using up all oxygen without a fresh air source like the stove.

We have a full machine shop and 3D printers at work also but I think I'm all set. The woodwork is taking me a lot longer than I thought but still lots of fun. Haven't done it in a while. It's all yellow birch by the way. Hard stuff!!

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Re: Cargo trailer conversion project
« Reply #32 on: June 27, 2017, 08:31:19 PM »
I ran into the same thing doing my rebuild.  RV/mobile home suppliers.  Everything was "in stock" until the order was placed.  I must have cancelled a half dozen orders over a couple months.

I'm still waiting on my propane Suburban furnace. I ordered my Champion 3400 watt inverter/generator from Lowes and will order my gas stove from Campers Inn here in town. They said it takes only one day to come in. Other then the stove I don't have any other big ticket items to buy. I've pretty much bought everything already

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Re: Cargo trailer conversion project
« Reply #33 on: July 02, 2017, 12:00:23 AM »
I have recently embarked on almost the exact same thing. I just put a deposit on a 7x14 Aluminum Haulmark v nose WT2. I will be picking it up in September in Utah on my way to New Mexico. I am from the Seattle area. Will be following your build closely. I am now debating to go with spray insulation or foam panels. Thinking of a side mount twin Murphy bed.
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papachaz

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Re: Cargo trailer conversion project
« Reply #34 on: July 02, 2017, 01:04:16 AM »
very nicely done project, can't wait to see the finished pictures!
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« Reply #35 on: July 02, 2017, 01:06:06 AM »
I have recently embarked on almost the exact same thing. I just put a deposit on a 7x14 Aluminum Haulmark v nose WT2. I will be picking it up in September in Utah on my way to New Mexico. I am from the Seattle area. Will be following your build closely. I am now debating to go with spray insulation or foam panels. Thinking of a side mount twin Murphy bed.

google that spray insulation, there are starting to be a LOT of complaints on it.
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« Reply #36 on: July 02, 2017, 01:58:00 AM »
The regular 4x8 sheets of insulation are real easy to cut and install. I will have more pictures by Tuesday. I have Mon and Tues off. I'm building the floor to ceiling cabinet right now that is opposite the other cabinet covering the batteries and inverter. The cabinet is in and the Magic Chef 4.3 CF fridge is in it and working. Just making all the trim and covering. It took hours to put the 3 sets of draw slides in yesterday. Laying on my side with my head in the hole, tiny screws flying off the end of my drill. What a pain.

Making the draws out of poplar wood. What nice wood to work with. I made one draw and forgot to rip the pieces first so it was too big for the opening. I did something I've never done before and wasn't sure it would work. I ran the draw on it's side 4 time through the table saw. Worked good!!! I really wasn't sure what was going to happen. With a brad nailer it takes like 2 seconds to put a draw together.

I try to use my time efficiently if possible like cutting, gluing and clamping some boards before I'm done for the day. I have 1,000's of tiny details to go back and do. The sanding alone on the wood is going to take forever before the polyurethane goes on. I took a section of yellow birch to work. I had 4 different things on it but everyone agreed they liked the polyurethane the best. For some reason it really brought out the grain. I got about 50' of board from the mill the other day and lucked out. One piece is 10' long by maybe 11" wide and has some VERY dramatic grain in it. Saving that to use on either my desk top of counter. Has 2 knots that will look great. Have to dye some epoxy then fill in the gaps so it's smooth.

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Re: Cargo trailer conversion project
« Reply #37 on: July 02, 2017, 02:13:25 AM »
Amazon showed up the other day. I can no longer say I have everything but the kitchen sink in my living room

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Re: Cargo trailer conversion project
« Reply #38 on: July 02, 2017, 02:06:21 PM »
You may have to comply with parts of this regulation when you get it tagged.

https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CFR-2011-title49-vol6/xml/CFR-2011-title49-vol6-part567.xml
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« Reply #39 on: July 02, 2017, 05:15:05 PM »
You may have to comply with parts of this regulation when you get it tagged.

https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CFR-2011-title49-vol6/xml/CFR-2011-title49-vol6-part567.xml


I'd hitch to my truck, pull it through the state inspection lane, and call it a day. You research that gvt. gobbledygook too much. If everyone read and followed all that crap, we'll all be in a tornado shelter, afraid to come out.
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Re: Cargo trailer conversion project
« Reply #40 on: July 02, 2017, 07:47:51 PM »
You may have to comply with parts of this regulation when you get it tagged.

https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CFR-2011-title49-vol6/xml/CFR-2011-title49-vol6-part567.xml

Trailer is already tagged and inspection sticker. I didn't build the trailer, I bought it.

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Re: Cargo trailer conversion project
« Reply #41 on: July 03, 2017, 01:35:50 AM »
Spent hours yesterday putting drawer fronts and drawer pulls on. What a pain in the azz. Measuring this and that using rulers, calipers and anything else I could find. I always ended up making one hole from the back larger then the other so I could line it up properly when attaching the drawer front to the drawer.

I have one drawer that's a slide out little table next to the bed so I can put stuff on. When I installed it it was crooked like one side was in at least 3/4" more then the other. I spent at least an hour trying to figure it out. I measured the drawer slides side to side and up and down and all was fine. I measured the table for width and length and it was fine. I measured the table corner to corner and it was fine. I was stumped!!!

Anyone know?

I then took my square and put it on. I was like HOLY ****. I somehow had made a euclidean trapezoid. I think that's the term, not sure. Maybe if it was used in the fairy tale house it would be fine. I have no idea how I screwed up that bad.

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Re: Cargo trailer conversion project
« Reply #42 on: July 03, 2017, 05:48:15 AM »
Measure twice and cut once.   :o ::) ;D
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Re: Cargo trailer conversion project
« Reply #43 on: July 03, 2017, 11:04:13 AM »
Trailer is already tagged and inspection sticker. I didn't build the trailer, I bought it.

That's why I provided the certification reference. Part 567.7 in the reference outlines procedures you may not be aware of. For instance. You are changing it from a cargo trailer to a RV trailer. That information must be displayed along with a statement that it meets all safety standards.
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Re: Cargo trailer conversion project
« Reply #44 on: July 03, 2017, 11:26:59 AM »
And pretty much what I said before, probably no one else reads that Gvt. gobbledygook, nor do most of us even care. There probably aren't 10 State Inspection people in the United States that know that stuff even exists, let alone know what it says.
I know you believe you understand what you think I said,
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« Reply #45 on: July 03, 2017, 11:52:55 AM »
Major progress today and really looking like something. Will have some pics tomorrow. I bought oak composite flooring that I'll put down later. In the meantime I needed one section so I could get the proper height off the floor for trim and other panels. This one piece has been on the floor for a while. I picked it up today and wiped if off and it's still like brand new. I figured it would take a beating from the tools dropping, saw dust being ground in under my foot and everything else. I just may put half the flooring down soon since it seems to wear very good.

As I finish each drawer I'm able to stuff tons of junk into them. Two weeks ago I could barley walk around without stepping on something. I'm gonna be sanding for weeks when I'm ready to finish the wood. The belt sander is my BEST friend!!! 

Gods Country

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Re: Cargo trailer conversion project
« Reply #46 on: July 03, 2017, 01:13:59 PM »
I don't see why the OP needs to be concerned with anything beyond not exceeding the trailers manufactured weight ratings.  It's not an RV.  It isn't a motor vehicle.  It's still a trailer.  My registration for my TT doesn't state it's a TT.  It's a trailer with a weight rating, and requires typical trailer safety equipment for its rating.  I could tear the box off it tomorrow, and add suitable decking and ramps, and it would still be registered as a 6k trailer with the same gross weight and axle ratings.  It would just be carrying different things.

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« Reply #47 on: July 04, 2017, 11:09:06 AM »
Done for a while. I'm beat. Six days working on this. Glad to go back to work tomorrow so I can relax.
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Oldgator73

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Re: Cargo trailer conversion project
« Reply #48 on: July 04, 2017, 11:18:03 AM »
That's some nice work! Maybe you should teach carpentry at the community college. What do you estimate the final weight of your TT will be?
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« Reply #49 on: July 04, 2017, 11:24:11 AM »
That's some nice work! Maybe you should teach carpentry at the community college. What do you estimate the final weight of your TT will be?

Thanks. I'm from the school of Norm Abrams. He uses a belt sander also when pieces don't line up. lol

I have no idea what the final weight will be. The trailer weighed 2,150 and can be 7,000 max. My Jeep can tow I think 6,400 so I'm guessing I'll be way under that

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Re: Cargo trailer conversion project
« Reply #50 on: July 04, 2017, 11:36:15 AM »
What keep do have?
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« Reply #51 on: July 04, 2017, 11:38:12 AM »
What keep do have?

I'm assuming you meant Jeep. 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 4.7 V8 and tow package

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Re: Cargo trailer conversion project
« Reply #52 on: July 04, 2017, 11:47:24 AM »
I'm assuming you meant Jeep. 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 4.7 V8 and tow package

Sorry. Fat fingers.
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Re: Cargo trailer conversion project
« Reply #53 on: July 04, 2017, 08:00:36 PM »
That  sure does not look like any cargo trailer I ever saw!!  Nice work!

When are you scheduled to take it to work to show it off??
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« Reply #54 on: July 04, 2017, 08:28:29 PM »
When are you scheduled to take it to work to show it off??

I have no idea. Everything seems to take a lot longer then I planned. The whole thing is pretty much self contained so I'm not gated by the weather. I'm still trying to figure out what I'm going to do about the counter top. It will be the biggest I've ever glued up. I may have to pay the mill to do it. I was also thinking I can do all the frame work for the bottom cabinets all along the wall then screw down one board at a time then glue the next and screw. That one top will be 7 1/2 feet long. I don't think there is any way I can get three boards straight enough to glue up.

I could also do it one 2" strip at a time. I could also cut all my boards to rough lengths then have the mill S4S them for gluing. I can also do the top in sections but that would require some type of trim board. Maybe even inlay 2" sections of cherry at the butt joints. I'll probably use my plunge router to inlay 3/4" cherry all around the top. That's easy to do and pretty dramatic when done.

There is enough done at this point I could actually pull the trailer to some remote place and work on it instead of at my mechanics shop for a change.

Anyways, I'm doing this as a project/hobby and enjoying it with no time table in mind. I would like it to be done for the winter so I can test out it's ability in the cold weather.

Oldgator73

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Re: Cargo trailer conversion project
« Reply #55 on: July 04, 2017, 08:49:33 PM »
I have no idea. Everything seems to take a lot longer then I planned. The whole thing is pretty much self contained so I'm not gated by the weather. I'm still trying to figure out what I'm going to do about the counter top. It will be the biggest I've ever glued up. I may have to pay the mill to do it. I was also thinking I can do all the frame work for the bottom cabinets all along the wall then screw down one board at a time then glue the next and screw. That one top will be 7 1/2 feet long. I don't think there is any way I can get three boards straight enough to glue up.

I could also do it one 2" strip at a time. I could also cut all my boards to rough lengths then have the mill S4S them for gluing. I can also do the top in sections but that would require some type of trim board. Maybe even inlay 2" sections of cherry at the butt joints. I'll probably use my plunge router to inlay 3/4" cherry all around the top. That's easy to do and pretty dramatic when done.

There is enough done at this point I could actually pull the trailer to some remote place and work on it instead of at my mechanics shop for a change.

Anyways, I'm doing this as a project/hobby and enjoying it with no time table in mind. I would like it to be done for the winter so I can test out it's ability in the cold weather.

You lost me at "I have no idea".
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Re: Cargo trailer conversion project
« Reply #56 on: July 05, 2017, 07:59:59 AM »
You lost me at "I have no idea".

I think he was replying to what Gordon asked:  When are you scheduled to take it to work to show it off??
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« Reply #57 on: July 05, 2017, 08:41:18 AM »
I think he was replying to what Gordon asked:  When are you scheduled to take it to work to show it off??

Yes

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Re: Cargo trailer conversion project
« Reply #58 on: July 05, 2017, 09:23:07 AM »
Yes

What I was alluding to was everything after "I have no idea" is Greek to me. The technical aspect of his phenomenal carpentry work and future plans.
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Re: Cargo trailer conversion project
« Reply #59 on: July 05, 2017, 06:13:03 PM »
What type of top do you plan?  I got confused, too!  I follow 7 1/2ft long.  Is it a laminate top?  Is it a stacked hardwood top?  Why is the length a problem?

Formica over plywood - cut the Formica sheet to fit the wall perfectly, and a bit too big on the other dimensions.  Get the back properly placed, glue down,  then router or file the other edges to fit.

Stacked hardwood - plane to the same height.  Carefully glue and screw each board in place on the counter, then sand the finished product.

Or am I missing something big?
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