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Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« on: May 30, 2017, 08:12:46 PM »
Just today, we were traveling north on I-81 just south of Wilkes-Barre and hit a stretch of highway that was brutal on our TT. The oscillations were so bad, I was expecting the hitch to break. Concrete s*cks.

Last fall, we hit a similar stretch out west, maybe in SD. It was brutal.

I had to vent. Thanks.
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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2017, 08:21:36 PM »
I hate concrete roads too. I95 in SC is a killer.
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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2017, 08:21:58 PM »
As much as surrounding traffic conditions permit, I run in the left lane through that section of I-81. Same on I-95 in SC. It's much smoother...
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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2017, 08:32:02 PM »
Head west on I-80 from there if you really want a rough ride.
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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2017, 08:44:18 PM »
take a trip through Oklahoma City on I-40, and I bet you will be loving that last trip down that area you just hated !. some years back when I pulled a trailer through there ?..OMG..i was thankful I did not have dentures ?..otherwise..they would have fell out !. had to be one of the worst high ways I've ever been through/on !.
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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2017, 08:45:57 PM »
As much as surrounding traffic conditions permit, I run in the left lane through that section of I-81. Same on I-95 in SC. It's much smoother...

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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2017, 08:49:48 PM »
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I would also agree, as we all know, 18-wheelers run most of their trips in the right lane, brutal !!..lol.
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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2017, 09:22:37 PM »
I would also agree, as we all know, 18-wheelers run most of their trips in the right lane, brutal !!..lol.

Most of the traffic is in the right lane. By law in most states, the right lane is for travel and the left lane is for passing only so the right lane is getting beat up.  It's the law in 44 states.
I know someone will question what I just said so here it is:

http://jalopnik.com/5501615/left-lane-passing-laws-a-state-by-state-map
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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2017, 10:06:03 PM »
Years (and I do mean years) ago, my father and his brother drove Dad's 47 Willys Jeep from Springfield, Mo. to Houston, Tx.  They took Route 66 to Big Cabin, Ok then Hwy 69 down to Atoka where they caught Hwy 75 on down to Houston.  The Jeep's cruising speed was only about 40 mph.  With the short wheelbase of the Jeep and traveling at 40 mph, the concrete section joints seem to set up a harmonic bounce, all the way to Houston.  They had gone down there looking for work.  The trip was so hard on them it took several days before they could manage to start looking for a job.
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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2017, 10:50:01 PM »
Most of the traffic is in the right lane. By law in most states, the right lane is for travel and the left lane is for passing only so the right lane is getting beat up.  It's the law in 44 states.
I know someone will question what I just said so here it is:

http://jalopnik.com/5501615/left-lane-passing-laws-a-state-by-state-map
yes, you are correct :-). right lane is for travel, left lane for passing, no argument there :-).
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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2017, 02:18:14 AM »
Has anyone had the pleasure of travelling on I-59 from just North of Fort Payne, AL, down to Gadsen, AL?  They have fixed the road (mostly), but when I first started travelling it back in 2007, I have to say it was one of the worst Interstate highways that I'd ever been on.  The 60 mile or so stretch was under construction at that time, and for how long before I started using it.....is unknown to me.  Findally, about a year and a half ago, they have pretty much got it done.  It wasn't unusual to drive the 60 miles (all under the "Road Construction Zone" sign, and see a total of maybe 5 or 6 guys working in that entire distance.  Almost everyone used the left lane and it was just assumed that is where you drove.  If you needed to pass someone, you got over in the right lane, did your pass, put your teeth back in, then merged left again.  Wow!
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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2017, 04:58:55 AM »
There is nothing wrong with a properly built and maintained concrete road surface.  PROPERLY MAINTAINED.

IT is long lasting, and over all lower in cost than asphalt lasting easily 2-3 times as long.

BUT: First it has to be properly built. Here in the US they tend to go "Cheap" which means the road does not last as long as if they made it a bit ..Er.. Thicker.

And of course we do not properly maintain them, Patch, Patch, Patch, instead of re-do.. WHY. Well... That... Is politics.. a compound word.. made iup of POLY (meaning many) and TICS, which as you know are blood sucking parasites....
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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2017, 06:58:29 AM »
I know we're digressing a bit here, but Rene brought up the law about left lane passing and right lane travel lane. That is spot on.  Also,  that has been a pet peeve of mine for about as long as I can remember. Just goes up my kazoo when someone is riding the left lane doing 50 ! I noticed that it doesn't happen much down here in the Southeast(since we moved here 4 years ago) like it did in the Northeast. Up there, there appeared to be more people who thought they were entitled and owned the road to drive in whatever lane they wanted and however they wanted. Driving ethics in general (like the rest of society), I believe has gone the way of the albatross.  So too bad for us who try to do right by the guy next to us by staying in the right lane or using our directionals.

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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2017, 07:02:05 AM »
I knew our infrastructure was bad, but didn't realize how bad until I started full-timing in a coach.
If the people that appropriate money for building and maintaining their city or state roads had to ride those roads in a motorhome, they would understand how in need of repair they are. Driving those roads in a car with good suspension you will not hear or feel how bad they are like driving over them in a motorhome.
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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2017, 08:17:58 AM »
I have seen both good and bad concrete highways but even on the best roads the engineers seems to have flunked the course on how to transition onto and off of bridges - short bridges over little streams or just creeks.  I have had more severe shocks on many of those transitions than the roughest concrete road.  When you hit one that should alert you that more will be coming on that particular stretch of road.  JMHO

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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2017, 09:41:57 AM »
Merlin spoke of oscillations, which is largely a factor of the expansion gaps between slabs vs the length of the rig. If that's his complaint, maintenance has little to do with it. The size of the concrete slabs is largely dictated by the climate and terrain, i.e. how much the ground moves. In flat, stable regions they can use long slabs with small gaps, but where the temperature swings from freeze to thaw and/or the ground shifts for various reasons, the slabs are made shorter with bigger gaps to accommodate it. That's why those big "expansion plugs" are put between slabs. They set up a rhythmic set of bumps and if the length of your rig is just right (wrong?), a harmonic oscillation can begin that is really annoying. It will be exacerbated if the trailer tongue/pin weight is light because the trailer jerks the tow vehicle more.
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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2017, 10:27:48 AM »
In 1982, a couple of us volunteered to take a road trip to return our new Mack all wheel drive fire engine to the manufacturer in Elmira, NY for some hydraulic repairs​. Think cement mixer chassis and you'll get an idea of how this beast handles.

All the way up Route 17, the expansion joint spacing was just right to bounce us nearly out of the seats. That truck is still in service, and to this day, I hate driving it!
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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2017, 11:11:05 AM »
I have seen both good and bad concrete highways but even on the best roads the engineers seems to have flunked the course on how to transition onto and off of bridges - short bridges over little streams or just creeks.  I have had more severe shocks on many of those transitions than the roughest concrete road.  When you hit one that should alert you that more will be coming on that particular stretch of road.  JMHO

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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #18 on: May 31, 2017, 11:48:57 AM »
Our highway problems are becoming critical and in my opinion are reaching the point of no return.

We haven't spent nearly enough $ on highway infrastructure for the last 20 years. Bridges are becoming unsafe, and roads are rough and need repaving.

As one of the poster said above, I-40 near Oklahoma City is so bad, I though I had a tire failure on my truck and pulled over to the side. Tires were fine, it was just the road.
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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2017, 12:38:05 PM »
I noticed that it doesn't happen much down here in the Southeast(since we moved here 4 years ago) like it did in the Northeast.

That's by biggest pet peeve when we go to FL for the winter. In the Lakeland area, they have the most disrespectful drivers that I've ever seen.  I would say that 2 out of 10 drivers drive in the left lane all the time and most are below the speed limit. At least they're not speeding.  :o >:(
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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #20 on: May 31, 2017, 12:47:37 PM »
yes, you are correct :-). right lane is for travel, left lane for passing, no argument there :-).

What about when you are passing going maybe 5-7 over the speed limit and someone decides that's not fast enough so they ride up your - you know what! (:(.    Give me a chance and I will get over!
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« Reply #21 on: May 31, 2017, 01:00:25 PM »
A couple of years back I was talking to a NY State Trooper at a rest area on I-88. When I ranted a little about the condition of some particularly rough sections and how much they affected my motorhome, he told me that as long as I wasn't holding up traffic, go ahead and run in the left lane where it's smoother. He said none of their guys would bother me about it because they're out there every day and know full well how bad it is. He said to just keep an eye behind me, and move over as needed. And yes, NY does have a "left lane for passing" law...
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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #22 on: May 31, 2017, 01:17:43 PM »
What about when you are passing going maybe 5-7 over the speed limit and someone decides that's not fast enough so they ride up your - you know what! (:(.    Give me a chance and I will get over!
lol. or how about, when your in the passing lane, the person  in front of you won't move over ?, so you zip around them in the slow lane, get back over in the fast lane, you look in your mirrors, then they move over to the slow lane !..lol.
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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #23 on: May 31, 2017, 01:35:26 PM »
I-10 in Louisiana.  Lost 2 teeth, a kidney, a windshield, an awning, and part of a tailpipe.
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« Reply #24 on: May 31, 2017, 01:40:49 PM »
I-10 in Louisiana.  Lost 2 teeth, a kidney, a windshield, an awning, and part of a tailpipe.
lol, someone told you, you were over your weight limit or what ?..lol.
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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #25 on: May 31, 2017, 02:01:59 PM »
lol. or how about, when your in the passing lane, the person  in front of you won't move over ?, so you zip around them in the slow lane, get back over in the fast lane, you look in your mirrors, then they move over to the slow lane !..lol.

Once I pass them I usually just slow down to at least 10 miles below the speed limit and that gets their attention. Most times they'll get the point and pull over. I only do it when they're the only car.
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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #26 on: May 31, 2017, 02:29:27 PM »
A couple of years back I was talking to a NY State Trooper at a rest area on I-88. When I ranted a little about the condition of some particularly rough sections and how much they affected my motorhome, he told me that as long as I wasn't holding up traffic, go ahead and run in the left lane where it's smoother. He said none of their guys would bother me about it because they're out there every day and know full well how bad it is. He said to just keep an eye behind me, and move over as needed. And yes, NY does have a "left lane for passing" law...

When I was a Driver License Examiner in North Dakota we were pretty much in tight with the Highway Patrol and they shared the same feelings Rene.  If you are not bothering anybody, use the left lane for a smoother ride and pull over when someone is approaching for a pass.  Semi-trucks pound the right lanes right down to near dust and are mainly responsible for their roughness.  At the time it was legal in ND to drive in the left lane but generally accepted that the right lane should be used for everything but passing.  I think that law is now changed to make the left lane for passing only.

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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #27 on: May 31, 2017, 02:49:57 PM »
At the time it was legal in ND to drive in the left lane but generally accepted that the right lane should be used for everything but passing.  I think that law is now changed to make the left lane for passing only.

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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #28 on: May 31, 2017, 03:17:47 PM »
A few years back Arkansas had signs up that told slow traffic to use the left lane.  I think they realized the right lanes were falling apart way before the left and was trying to get trucks to run in the left lane.  Not sure if that is still the case.

Personally, I will drive in the left lane unless someone fast is coming up behind me.  I have never seen anyone pulled over for driving in the left lane even if they are holding up traffic.  I can always say I was safely pulling over to pass that car that was a mile in front of me.   ???
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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #29 on: May 31, 2017, 04:08:39 PM »
I-10 in Louisiana.  Lost 2 teeth, a kidney, a windshield, an awning, and part of a tailpipe.

Yes. I have traveled on rough roads over the years, including Malfunction Junction in Knoxville on I-40 where I lost a leaf spring on a 25' Prowler TT, but I have never seen anything like I-10 between Baton Rouge and Lafayette. A solid 30 miles of highway so bad, the cars drive 40 and I had to drive 25-30 with my toad, and still bottomed out the generator on its springs and severed the conduit running from it to the transfer switch. Whatever it takes, I'll avoid that stretch of highway again at all costs.
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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #30 on: May 31, 2017, 05:57:11 PM »
I-10 in Louisiana.  Lost 2 teeth, a kidney, a windshield, an awning, and part of a tailpipe.

I second that emotion, that's the worst stretch of highway I've ever been on!
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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #31 on: May 31, 2017, 07:02:14 PM »
I-10 in Louisiana.  Lost 2 teeth, a kidney, a windshield, an awning, and part of a tailpipe.

I can't speak to I-10 from Baton Rouge to Slidell as I use I-12 to bypass New Orleans, but it's getting better. Much of it has been repaved since I started traveling that route regularly 5 years ago. However, what hasn't been fixed remains truly miserable.
The really bad stretches (as of April) are between Lafayette and Atchafalaya, and also through/around Lake Charles (even the bypass is bad).
Let's include the first few miles of I-10 and I-12 east of the Mississippi.
The bridge transitions just about anywhere are suspension killers.

The Lafayette - Atchafalaya stretch has broken a shock absorber mount and loosened just about every screw in the trailer.
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« Reply #32 on: May 31, 2017, 07:18:05 PM »
Nothing like I-10 east of Baton Rouge. Miserable ride.
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« Reply #33 on: May 31, 2017, 07:18:46 PM »
Sorry, I meant west of Baton Rouge.
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« Reply #34 on: May 31, 2017, 07:50:30 PM »
Anywhere in a circumference of about 45 miles around Houston sucks.  Concrete everywhere.  Even the new construction is horrible.  When I head west to San Antonio, it's an hour drive around Houston, all concrete until I get outside that circumference.  That's why I tend to go camping north.  I only have a few miles of concrete until I'm out in the country.  But I'm sure that won't last long.  Pretty soon it seems like it's going to be "The Greater DalFtWorthHoustAntonio Quadraplex"!  One giant city with a few trees in-between.
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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #35 on: June 02, 2017, 03:49:39 PM »
All kidding aside I just got the slide awning replaced at Tough top awnings near Vancouver Wa.  310 inch x 32 inch, 15oz material installed in under an hour (with appointment) for $350.

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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #36 on: June 02, 2017, 10:00:02 PM »
I drove an empty fuel truck on I-84 from Pocatello to Boise in the left lane, I was warned I might get a ticket but I didn't care. I couldn't take the pounding.

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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #37 on: June 02, 2017, 10:53:39 PM »
All kidding aside I just got the slide awning replaced at Tough top awnings near Vancouver Wa.  310 inch x 32 inch, 15oz material installed in under an hour (with appointment) for $350.

http://www.toughtopawnings.com/

I can't see the connection between that and concrete highways>   :o ::) :( ;)
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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #38 on: June 03, 2017, 10:06:30 AM »
I was in Myrtle Beach in April and was reading on something local that the state of South Carolina is planning to spend some major money fixing up the highways

According to the article, there are too many folks getting judgements against the state for damage done to their vehicles due to condition of roads.   

Spoke with a gent from NC, he said the state was talking about increasing fuel taxes to help pay for the work.

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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #39 on: June 03, 2017, 12:07:01 PM »
I can't see the connection between that and concrete highways>   :o ::) :( ;)
Bobtop46 indicated the concrete hwy (I-10) tore up his awning (amount other things).



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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #40 on: June 03, 2017, 01:19:38 PM »
The bumps were so jarring that the slide awning moved enough to knock the anti billow device off.  After that the slide awning unrolled and was billowing in the wind.  We heard a snap after hitting a bump and wondered what it was.  Now we know.  This was gone.

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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #41 on: June 03, 2017, 05:00:30 PM »
The bumps were so jarring that the slide awning moved enough to knock the anti billow device off.  After that the slide awning unrolled and was billowing in the wind.  We heard a snap after hitting a bump and wondered what it was.  Now we know.  This was gone.

http://www.dyersonline.com/dometic-black-anti-billow-hardware.html?utm_medium=shoppingengine&utm_source=googlebase&gclid=CNqOyd-kotQCFYhsfgodCtkCYQ

To divert for one post, can you tell me how the anti-billow device works. I just replaced my awning that had the aluminum cover over it with one where the awning is exposed.  I cannot see how this device works but suspect, with my bad luck, it may behoove me to install one.  Thanks.

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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #42 on: June 04, 2017, 02:35:26 PM »
When the slide topper awning tries to unroll the anti billowing device hits the stopper mounted on the RV wall.  Only works when the slide is in.  In our case a combination of rough road, a head wind, and trucks passing (during single lane construction situation) caused the device to snap off and our slide awning to billow out (unroll.)

Hopefully this is not a social fax pas:

http://www.irv2.com/forums/f54/billowing-slide-topper-183374-2.html
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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #43 on: June 04, 2017, 02:48:19 PM »
When the slide topper awning tries to unroll the anti billowing device hits the stopper mounted on the RV wall.  Only works when the slide is in.  In our case a combination of rough road, a head wind, and trucks passing (during single lane construction situation) caused the device to snap off and our slide awning to billow out (unroll.)

Hopefully this is not a social fax pas:

http://www.irv2.com/forums/f54/billowing-slide-topper-183374-2.html

Thanks for the reply.  I neglected to notice that this was for slide awnings.  I was looking for something for my side awning.

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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #44 on: June 13, 2017, 01:34:41 PM »
There is nothing wrong with a properly built and maintained concrete road surface.  PROPERLY MAINTAINED.

IT is long lasting, and over all lower in cost than asphalt lasting easily 2-3 times as long.

BUT: First it has to be properly built. Here in the US they tend to go "Cheap" which means the road does not last as long as if they made it a bit ..Er.. Thicker.

And of course we do not properly maintain them, Patch, Patch, Patch, instead of re-do.. WHY. Well... That... Is politics.. a compound word.. made iup of POLY (meaning many) and TICS, which as you know are blood sucking parasites....

I don't think anyone here is complaining about the longevity of concrete highways. The main complaint is about the lengths of sections between expansion joints causing rhythmic or harmonic vibrations in vehicles.

I travel on 25 miles of concrete highway everyday. The expansion joints are 20' apart and match the wheelbase of my truck perfectly. This causes the truck to start bouncing up and down violently. The bounce is so bad that you cannot carry on a conversation inside the truck.
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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #45 on: June 20, 2017, 07:17:18 PM »
just wrapping up a drive from Florida to the Grand Canyon and back.... very few of the concrete stretches are good.  I saw a lot of rough asphalt sections too....but mostly I was happy to come upon asphalt!
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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #46 on: October 05, 2017, 11:27:59 AM »
Thank you so much for the I-10 update. We drove it a couple years ago and found it miserable. We are headed to Texas again from Florida and wanted to check if there had been any change, guess not.There should be an app that warns for these bad roads.

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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #47 on: October 05, 2017, 11:45:46 AM »
The state just finished up a pretty big elevated roadway project here and at first the concrete road surface was miserable, no matter what vehicle I had. Then I came to work one day and it was smooth as glass. I don't know if it's a new procedure but what they did was once all the work was done they came through and milled it to a consistent, flat surface. I honestly cannot feel a single expansion joint. Not sure if this will change over time but it sure is nice right now!!!
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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #48 on: October 05, 2017, 12:28:46 PM »
The state just finished up a pretty big elevated roadway project here and at first the concrete road surface was miserable, no matter what vehicle I had. Then I came to work one day and it was smooth as glass. I don't know if it's a new procedure but what they did was once all the work was done they came through and milled it to a consistent, flat surface. I honestly cannot feel a single expansion joint. Not sure if this will change over time but it sure is nice right now!!!

Sounds like they ground it.  This is becoming a common procedure for concrete highways and really helps smooth them out especially the expansion joints.  But they can only grind so many times before replacement.  I came across a contractor in South Dakota on I-29 who was just replacing expansion joints by replacing about a 3 foot section on each side of the joint and then installing about 3 groups of short rebar across the joint before repouring new concrete.  From what I could see this was a pretty effective way of keeping the joints in level with each other.

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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #49 on: October 05, 2017, 12:48:30 PM »
Most of the traffic is in the right lane. By law in most states, the right lane is for travel and the left lane is for passing only so the right lane is getting beat up.  It's the law in 44 states.
I know someone will question what I just said so here it is:

http://jalopnik.com/5501615/left-lane-passing-laws-a-state-by-state-map
I think you are correct, and it has been that way for a long time.

Back in the early 1970's I was driving to Ft Huacuca AZ in the much smoother left lane of I-10...at 3am,   not another car on the road.

 Except for this really pissed off AZ state trooper that did a U turn to me pull over for driving in the left lane....I learned that night not to do that in Arizona.
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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #50 on: October 06, 2017, 02:07:39 AM »
Same is here. I just hate top ride on concrete roads.

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Concrete highways
« Reply #51 on: October 06, 2017, 10:30:27 AM »
I'm sure there's a special section in Hell for those who thought concrete highways were a good idea!
Concrete "cups" when it cures no matter how long the sections are.

I too am disgusted with concrete highways and avoid them when I can or drive in the lane least bumpy.

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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #52 on: October 06, 2017, 04:34:03 PM »
I drove an empty tank truck from Pocatello ID to Boise in the left lane, I couldn't take the pounding.

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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #53 on: October 06, 2017, 05:41:11 PM »
If you don't like concrete.. How about Asphalt...

A couple govermanures ago Michigan got the bright idea to pave over the concrete with nice smooth Asphalt..  Well it's nice. it's smooth it looks good and it is cheap.

But when it gets hot it buckels.. Suddenly.. and one of the buckles in interstate 275 near Plymouth/Canton flipped a car into the path of a truck killing the driver.'


I like a well made, well maintained concrete road.. Sadly not many of those around.
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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #54 on: October 06, 2017, 08:46:13 PM »
LMAO you guys are sooooo funny - your roads are glass in comparison to the roads here in Alberta we get frost heaves that will make you butt leave the seat no joke and potholes that will rip your wheel off and open cupboards in the coach that have locks on. I kid you not i have seen coaches litteraly fall apart on the highway and nice coaches at that. I love traveling your highways they are so nice compared to ours
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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #55 on: October 06, 2017, 09:24:08 PM »
Nothing like I-10 in the Lafayette, LA area.
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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #56 on: October 06, 2017, 11:42:50 PM »
Nothing like I-10 in the Lafayette, LA area.

That 30 mile stretch took out my generator by bottoming it out on its springs and severing the conduit to the transfer switch, and made me rehang my door. I will never travel down that stretch of road again.

LMAO you guys are sooooo funny - your roads are glass in comparison to the roads here in Alberta we get frost heaves that will make you butt leave the seat no joke and potholes that will rip your wheel off and open cupboards in the coach that have locks on. I kid you not i have seen coaches litteraly fall apart on the highway and nice coaches at that. I love traveling your highways they are so nice compared to ours

If you think we are so funny, I guess the question must be asked of why you are living with roads that bad. You make it sound like we're a bunch of whiners that don't know how bad it can get. If that's the case, your sanity or intelligence must be questioned if you are willing to live with roads as you described.
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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #57 on: October 07, 2017, 11:59:16 AM »
A couple of years back I was talking to a NY State Trooper at a rest area on I-88. When I ranted a little about the condition of some particularly rough sections and how much they affected my motorhome, he told me that as long as I wasn't holding up traffic, go ahead and run in the left lane where it's smoother. He said none of their guys would bother me about it because they're out there every day and know full well how bad it is. He said to just keep an eye behind me, and move over as needed. And yes, NY does have a "left lane for passing" law...

Truth. If you're the only vehicle on the road, nobody cares what lane you're in, but when you start holding up traffic, you'd better be over to the right. According to my neighbor, the CSP Trooper.
 
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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #58 on: October 07, 2017, 12:05:08 PM »
Nothing like I-10 in the Lafayette, LA area.

I-10 into Baton Rouge! Eastbound from Lafayette. Especially, just before the River.
And in summer, I-49 north of Shreveport. I actually saw concrete joint buckle just before I got to it, once. My Front End was a MESS.
 
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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #59 on: October 07, 2017, 01:17:44 PM »
I-10 into Baton Rouge! Eastbound from Lafayette. Especially, just before the River.
And in summer, I-49 north of Shreveport. I actually saw concrete joint buckle just before I got to it, once. My Front End was a MESS.
  My post has nothing to do with cement roads as much as Louisiana in general.  As a disclaimer I was born and raised in New Orleans but I have no intention of ever living there or anywhere in the state again.    Back in the day (1950s and 60s) if you wanted a good road in your area you made sure the politicians were well taken care of and, definitely, reelected.  I left the area in 1961 after I joined the Air Force but from 1957 to 1961 I had a lot of laughs watching them try to build an interstate through the swamp between LaPlace, La and Ponchatula, La (I-55),  In fact my first car a 1941 Plymouth turned it's last wheel on the road beside the construction (US 51) and me and two other guys just pushed t into the swamp never to be seen again.  I had paid $25 for the car and it wasn't even worth that when I bid it goodbye.  A friend from the area told me that he thinks it is still there because that swamp has never been touched since then.  The interstate was finally completed a few years later but not on the swamp where they tried.  It was an elevated bridge that ran completely across the swamp and is still in pretty decent condition.    When I think of the roads back in the day in that area I also think of the levees and what Katrina did to them.  Same politicians pocketing the money on that fiasco too.  JMHO.
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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #60 on: October 07, 2017, 01:31:05 PM »
That 30 mile stretch took out my generator by bottoming it out on its springs and severing the conduit to the transfer switch, and made me rehang my door. I will never travel down that stretch of road again.

If you think we are so funny, I guess the question must be asked of why you are living with roads that bad. You make it sound like we're a bunch of whiners that don't know how bad it can get. If that's the case, your sanity or intelligence must be questioned if you are willing to live with roads as you described.
 

slow down my friend no need to get so touchy - i live where i live because i choose too the frost heaves are a weather related issue because the temps can drop to -40 on a regular basis, and i can assure you i am neither insane nor stupid i am CANADIAN and proud of it with some great American friends if you choose to whine that is entirely your choice.
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Re: Man, I can really hate concrete highways
« Reply #61 on: October 08, 2017, 06:18:30 AM »
 

slow down my friend no need to get so touchy - i live where i live because i choose too the frost heaves are a weather related issue because the temps can drop to -40 on a regular basis, and i can assure you i am neither insane nor stupid i am CANADIAN and proud of it with some great American friends if you choose to whine that is entirely your choice.

I agree with you on the frost heaves.  Lived in North Dakota for over 30 years and the frost line there was at least 4 feet down so if you didn't want it to freeze it better be lower than that.  Roads really take a beating from those super cold temps.  My daughter is now a Canadian by marriage so we are pretty much an international family.  I have to admit that on a few (very few) occasions the wife and I have seen what seems to be petty jealousy (of what?) from some Canadians when we are visiting.  More like a chip on the shoulder but nothing very serious.  BUT Canada is the cleanest country I have ever seen.  I had to laugh when I saw truck after truck hauling garbage out of Ontario into Michigan for dumping.  Who knew?....lol
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