I posted a topic in the introduction form, where I indicated I was certain my truck would pull the toy hauler I've been debating. I had weighed my truck, but realized I had made several errors. First being, I hadn't weighed the truck since some modifications were done (bumpers, winch, etc), and I didn't have a specific weight for the rear axle.
Today, I went to the CAT scale, and got my weights:
My truck's specifications:
I was looking at the Palomino Puma 359-THKS, and before I got it weighed, after I started researching the king pin weight, I was realizing that I was danged close to the maximum.
So, I started looking at a similar model, with less king pin wait, the Puma 351-THSS. It has a (factory) hitch weight of 1,845 lb, a GVWR of 13,560 lb (including cargo capacity of 4,000 lb). I'm assuming that once I load it, the king pin weight is going to go up.
I plugged these numbers into the Fifth Wheel Weight Calculator. It has a field for GVW - should I be putting the weight of the truck including all passengers, and stuff in the bed? Or is it wanting the base weight of the truck? I entered a value which I believe represents the weight of the truck with all the passengers, a potential Reese fifth wheel hitch, and some stuff in the bed of the truck (you can see the values I entered into the the form if you click the link).
This comes out to say that the maximum weight of a trailer I can safely pull is 6300 lb with a safety margin. This doesn't even count a potential generator, water in the various tanks, etc. Of course, at present, without any heavy "toys", I'm not going to be adding a full 4,000 lb of cargo, but even if I use the "dry" weight,
This is drastically different than calculations I did previously in Excel, trying to figure out what was safe. It pretty much says there is zero chance of my pulling a fifth wheel toy hauler behind my rig (2015 Diesel F350, SRW 4x4), and am seriously limited on any fifth wheel options period.
I find it somewhat surprising, as I know people having less of a rig than my own, towing heavier trailers than the one I'm speccing out. I will grant that originally, when I bought the F350, along with my excel calculations, and what I saw from friends, it seemed like I was going to be able to haul most reasonable fifth wheel trailers.
So, do my findings pass the smell test? Looks like with my existing truck I'd be looking at a bumper pull to be able to realistically pull just about anything.
Today, I went to the CAT scale, and got my weights:
Steer Axle: | 5,580 lb |
Drive Axle: | 3,420 lb |
Gross Weight: | 9,000 lb |
My truck's specifications:
GVWR: | 11,500 lb |
Front GAWR: | 6000 lb |
Rear GAWR: | 7,000 lb |
GCWR: | 23,500 lb |
Maximum loaded trailer weight: | 15,700 (fifth wheel) |
I was looking at the Palomino Puma 359-THKS, and before I got it weighed, after I started researching the king pin weight, I was realizing that I was danged close to the maximum.
So, I started looking at a similar model, with less king pin wait, the Puma 351-THSS. It has a (factory) hitch weight of 1,845 lb, a GVWR of 13,560 lb (including cargo capacity of 4,000 lb). I'm assuming that once I load it, the king pin weight is going to go up.
I plugged these numbers into the Fifth Wheel Weight Calculator. It has a field for GVW - should I be putting the weight of the truck including all passengers, and stuff in the bed? Or is it wanting the base weight of the truck? I entered a value which I believe represents the weight of the truck with all the passengers, a potential Reese fifth wheel hitch, and some stuff in the bed of the truck (you can see the values I entered into the the form if you click the link).
This comes out to say that the maximum weight of a trailer I can safely pull is 6300 lb with a safety margin. This doesn't even count a potential generator, water in the various tanks, etc. Of course, at present, without any heavy "toys", I'm not going to be adding a full 4,000 lb of cargo, but even if I use the "dry" weight,
This is drastically different than calculations I did previously in Excel, trying to figure out what was safe. It pretty much says there is zero chance of my pulling a fifth wheel toy hauler behind my rig (2015 Diesel F350, SRW 4x4), and am seriously limited on any fifth wheel options period.
I find it somewhat surprising, as I know people having less of a rig than my own, towing heavier trailers than the one I'm speccing out. I will grant that originally, when I bought the F350, along with my excel calculations, and what I saw from friends, it seemed like I was going to be able to haul most reasonable fifth wheel trailers.
So, do my findings pass the smell test? Looks like with my existing truck I'd be looking at a bumper pull to be able to realistically pull just about anything.