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Dochands

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First trailer for a new Volvo XC90 T8 - 5000 lb wt limit
« on: June 24, 2017, 12:54:40 PM »
Trying to make a decision about a travel trailer for my new Volvo. I have a 5000 lb wt limit. I am interested currently in the Jayco and the Springdale. Love Air Streams but think they are way out of my weight and price range.

Open to suggestions and advice. Also, I am confused about why I am being told not to drive with a filled water tank and only hook up at a camp ground. The point of this is to go somewhere quiet and not necessarily a campground. Is this a hard fact or just CYA advice? I am assuming my water weight will be within the carrying limit of the trailer.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: First trailer for a new Volvo XC90 T8 - 5000 lb wt limit
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2017, 01:40:07 PM »
There are probably two reasons for the water suggestion:
     1.  So the salesman can sell you a larger ($$$) trailer
     2.  The person doesn't camp and is clueless

I prefer having 3/4 to a full tank.  You can camp or use the bathroom anywhere.  If you get into a campsite late or in bad weather or too far from the connection you have water ready to go.  It's also nice for one-nighters on a long road trip .  My TT also rides a little smoother when the tank is full.

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Re: First trailer for a new Volvo XC90 T8 - 5000 lb wt limit
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2017, 03:26:12 PM »
Water ways about 8 lbs/gal and will add considerably to the weight of the trailer. The trailer itself will not have a problem with the weight of the water BUT... With that Volvo, you may have a 5000lb weight limit on the hitch BUT but you will have to calculate how much total weight that Volvo can tow safely including passengers and supplies. Just looking at a brochure for that car, I feel the trailer maximum trailer weight it will be able to handle comfortably will be well under 5000 lbs. As OBX said, R.Pods or Minnies.
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Re: First trailer for a new Volvo XC90 T8 - 5000 lb wt limit
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2017, 08:52:19 PM »
Salesmen and advertising depts. LIE!!!  This explains their thought process!

http://www.rvforum.net/SMF_forum/index.php/topic,90933.0.html

The BEST  way is to go to the car and find the yellow label on the driver door latch pillar that states, "Max weight of all passengers and cargo shall not exceed XXXX lbs"  This is exactly what it says!

Now add the weight of all passengers, pets, car seats, snacks and other cargo carried in the Volvo.  Add 80# for a WD hitch.  Subtract this from the yellow label wt.  What remains is the max tongue wt you can handle.  Assuming 10% tongue wt, multiply this number by 10 to get the max trailer GVWR you can handle.
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Re: First trailer for a new Volvo XC90 T8 - 5000 lb wt limit
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2017, 08:53:19 AM »
Salesmen and advertising depts. LIE!!!  This explains their thought process!

http://www.rvforum.net/SMF_forum/index.php/topic,90933.0.htmlThe BEST  way is to go to the car and find the yellow label on the driver door latch pillar that states, "Max weight of all passengers and cargo shall not exceed XXXX lbs"  This is exactly what it says!

Now add the weight of all passengers, pets, car seats, snacks and other cargo carried in the Volvo.  Add 80# for a WD hitch.  Subtract this from the yellow label wt.  What remains is the max tongue wt you can handle.  Assuming 10% tongue wt, multiply this number by 10 to get the max trailer GVWR you can handle.

Not all "Yellow Labels" give the same information. My label (which is white) tells me the GVWR is 5815#. There is a yellow label that says (written with a Sharpie) that the CCC is reduced by 198# due to options added. On Nissan's site I can see that the max towing weight is 6100# with a hitch weight of 610#. They are using the 10% rule. I "assume" the 6100# number is an empty truck, no options, all candy wrappers removed weight. The GCWR number is 11,230 (weight of truck and trailer combined). Max payload is 1368#.

If I subtract the max payload of 1368# and the 198# for the options added from the stated towing max I get 4,534#. Is that my max weight trailer I can tow? When I say max weight trailer I mean loaded trailer. The hitch weight would be about 450#. I can see how confusing all this can be. Folks on here are saying check the yellow sticker on the vehicle. It would seem not all yellow stickers are created equally.

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Re: First trailer for a new Volvo XC90 T8 - 5000 lb wt limit
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2017, 11:39:49 AM »
Not all "Yellow Labels" give the same information. My label (which is white) tells me the GVWR is 5815#. There is a yellow label that says (written with a Sharpie) that the CCC is reduced by 198# due to options added. On Nissan's site I can see that the max towing weight is 6100# with a hitch weight of 610#. They are using the 10% rule. I "assume" the 6100# number is an empty truck, no options, all candy wrappers removed weight. The GCWR number is 11,230 (weight of truck and trailer combined). Max payload is 1368#.

If I subtract the max payload of 1368# and the 198# for the options added from the stated towing max I get 4,534#. Is that my max weight trailer I can tow? When I say max weight trailer I mean loaded trailer. The hitch weight would be about 450#. I can see how confusing all this can be. Folks on here are saying check the yellow sticker on the vehicle. It would seem not all yellow stickers are created equally.

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The load in the car doesn't change the max towing weight but it does affect the available capacity for the hitch weight.
The hitch weight should be assumed to be at least 10% of the trailers GVWR (which is dry weight plus carrying capacity).
So, tow vehicle max load (as indicated on the sticker) minus the people and other stuff in the car needs to be bigger than the calculated hitch weight.

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Re: First trailer for a new Volvo XC90 T8 - 5000 lb wt limit
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2017, 12:08:34 PM »
The load in the car doesn't change the max towing weight but it does affect the available capacity for the hitch weight.
The hitch weight should be assumed to be at least 10% of the trailers GVWR (which is dry weight plus carrying capacity).
So, tow vehicle max load (as indicated on the sticker) minus the people and other stuff in the car needs to be bigger than the calculated hitch weight.

So I am looking at a GVWR for the trailer of about 4500#. Hitch weight should be no more than 450#. Max payload fromtruck is 1368# minus people and other stuff comes to about 650#. Well above the 450# stated above.

We have found several trailers that fit that weight standard. Now we just have to find the right floor plan and price. Anybody want to buy a 2016 Winnie Drop?

Hopefully this conversation also helps the OP.
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Re: First trailer for a new Volvo XC90 T8 - 5000 lb wt limit
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2017, 08:01:09 PM »
From my experience, 10% of gross should be minimum, mot maximum as stated above.

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Re: First trailer for a new Volvo XC90 T8 - 5000 lb wt limit
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2017, 08:11:48 PM »
Trying to make a decision about a travel trailer for my new Volvo. I have a 5000 lb wt limit. I am interested currently in the Jayco and the Springdale. Love Air Streams but think they are way out of my weight and price range.

Open to suggestions and advice. Also, I am confused about why I am being told not to drive with a filled water tank and only hook up at a camp ground. The point of this is to go somewhere quiet and not necessarily a campground. Is this a hard fact or just CYA advice? I am assuming my water weight will be within the carrying limit of the trailer.

Thanks in advance.

I had the same general weight limit to work with and after all of the proper calculations, I decided on a Winnie Drop 170k, based on layout and features.  It would be similar to a Jayco Hummingbird or an R-Pod. 
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Re: First trailer for a new Volvo XC90 T8 - 5000 lb wt limit
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2017, 11:23:26 AM »
Thanks for the replies. A lot to consider here but clearly I need to be no where near my max capacity in choosing a trailer. I am a private pilot and am reminded of the calculations I have to make regarding fuel weight, passengers, and cargo. You rarely push that to the limit for safety's sake and it appears the same is true with travel trailers.

I am heading to the Crestview in Buda today to look at their inventory since they carry different products than the one near Georgetown. I am a bit enamored with the Alto teardrop but they don't seem very available in the States and are a bit expensive like Airstreams.

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Re: First trailer for a new Volvo XC90 T8 - 5000 lb wt limit
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2017, 12:17:43 PM »
This is my favorite layout so far but I am concerned that it is too heavy. What do you all think?

http://www.crestviewrv.com/product/new-2017-keystone-rv-summerland-2020qb-626037-29

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Re: First trailer for a new Volvo XC90 T8 - 5000 lb wt limit
« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2017, 12:32:11 PM »
This is my favorite layout so far but I am concerned that it is too heavy. What do you all think?

http://www.crestviewrv.com/product/new-2017-keystone-rv-summerland-2020qb-626037-29

Yeah, I think it's a bit too heavy for your truck. My loaded trailer weight max is about 5400-5500#. We currently have a 17' Winnie Drop 1710. Loaded weight max is 3800#. We don't take too much stuff with us so cargo weight is not a big concern. I have noticed that some trailers we like floorplan wise that seem to be within our loaded weight parameters have a pretty heavy tongue or hitch weight.
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Re: First trailer for a new Volvo XC90 T8 - 5000 lb wt limit
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2017, 05:52:10 PM »
YES, Definitely too much weight!!
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Re: First trailer for a new Volvo XC90 T8 - 5000 lb wt limit
« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2017, 09:22:42 PM »
Read something rather confusing. I had the factory hitch installed. Ordered and installed. Read on line that they're is an aftermarket hitch called an Invisihitch. They claim their hitch increases the towing capacity by 20% to 6000 lbs. Does this make any sense?

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Re: First trailer for a new Volvo XC90 T8 - 5000 lb wt limit
« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2017, 09:38:31 PM »
On some vehicle's a tow rating may be limited by the OEM hitch capacity (load and draw) installed by the vehicle mfg. If a aftermarket hitch with a higher rating is used then it could be safe to assume the vehicle has another 1000 lb tow numbers.
 However it would be safe to assume only the truck mfg or a certified dealer can give you their answer.

 

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Re: First trailer for a new Volvo XC90 T8 - 5000 lb wt limit
« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2017, 09:47:17 PM »
Read something rather confusing. I had the factory hitch installed. Ordered and installed. Read on line that they're is an aftermarket hitch called an Invisihitch. They claim their hitch increases the towing capacity by 20% to 6000 lbs. Does this make any sense?

The only thing I can find about an Invisihitch is it is hidden from view. It looks like they are manufactured by Draw Tite.
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Re: First trailer for a new Volvo XC90 T8 - 5000 lb wt limit
« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2017, 08:04:42 PM »
That hitch will not increase your tow capacity.  Your limiting factor is the car.  IF the car had a 3000# / 300# hitch, then replacing it with this hitch would indeed increase your towing capacity from 3000# (hitch limit) to 5000# (vehicle  limit).
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Re: First trailer for a new Volvo XC90 T8 - 5000 lb wt limit
« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2017, 08:46:28 PM »
My vehicle’s sticker says I have a GVWR of 6355 and it says you cannot carry more than 1200 lbs of people and cargo.

So. What does this mean for what size trailer I can have? And my sticker is black. Lol

Sorry if this has already been answered but I am truly confused on this.

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Re: First trailer for a new Volvo XC90 T8 - 5000 lb wt limit
« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2017, 12:12:07 PM »
My vehicle’s sticker says I have a GVWR of 6355 and it says you cannot carry more than 1200 lbs of people and cargo.

So. What does this mean for what size trailer I can have? And my sticker is black. Lol

Sorry if this has already been answered but I am truly confused on this.

So, you understand about the 1200 lbs? Right? The tongue weight of the trailer is considered cargo.

If the car is fairly new and sold in the USA, there should be a yellow or white & yellow sticker on the "B" pillar of the drivers door.

Many people are surprised at how little a given vehicle is built to haul. Some think that since it has 6 sets of seat belts, it is ok to pile 6 250 lb people plus luggage and a cargo thing on the roof and pull a trailer. NOT!

You also need to know your spec for max towing. It might be on a door sticker or the owners manual.

Take the 10% of trailers GVWR and that is tongue weight to be included in the cargo weight.
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« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2017, 06:37:48 PM »
Very specifically, the GVWR of 6355# is the most your fully loaded car is designed to carry.  This includes the car and all contents.

The CCC, by definition = GVWR - curb wt of car.  Curb wt includes a full tank of gas and all factory options.

The CCC is exactly what it says.  The total combined weight of all passengers, pets, car seats, snacks, toys, other cargo, hitch and TT hitch wt shall not exceed 1200#.

In other words, add up all of the above except TT hitch weight.  Subtract this from 1200# to get the max hitch wt you can handle.  Assuming 10% hitch wt, multiply max hitch wt by 10 to get the max TT  GVWR you can handle.     Assuming 12.5% hitch wt, multiply max hitch wt by 8 to get the max TT  GVWR you can handle.

Thanks for asking.  BE SAFE!
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Re: First trailer for a new Volvo XC90 T8 - 5000 lb wt limit
« Reply #20 on: June 28, 2017, 07:21:17 PM »
Very specifically, the GVWR of 6355# is the most your fully loaded car is designed to carry.  This includes the car and all contents.

The CCC, by definition = GVWR - curb wt of car.  Curb wt includes a full tank of gas and all factory options.

The CCC is exactly what it says.  The total combined weight of all passengers, pets, car seats, snacks, toys, other cargo, hitch and TT hitch wt shall not exceed 1200#.

Sometimes we get ahead of ourselves in what we say and what we intend to mean....CCC means CargoCarryingCapacity and refers to the 1200 lbs of passengers and cargo the vehicle is rated to carry, not the 6355 lb GVW.  Just want to set the record straight.

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Re: First trailer for a new Volvo XC90 T8 - 5000 lb wt limit
« Reply #21 on: June 29, 2017, 08:43:03 AM »
I am a private pilot so am aware of weight, CG, and such but have never had to think that way for a vehicle. Today I am going to look at the two Winnebagos lines that might work for me.  A bit more expensive but it appears they are better built.

Again this is where I get confused. The dry weight of their 21 ft is only 3800 lbs even though it can carry an enormous amount of cargo. Should this concern me since I generally travel ‘light’?

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Re: First trailer for a new Volvo XC90 T8 - 5000 lb wt limit
« Reply #22 on: June 29, 2017, 09:59:02 AM »
Instead of using the dry weight of 3800 lbs, consider using the GVWR of the TRAILER and base the tow vehicle load on that. (ie 10-12%). This is the maximum weight the trailer is designed to carry and in doing so will it give you a good safety margin. Every reader will interpret an "enormous amount of cargo" and "travelling light" differently.

No one drags around a dry weight (ie empty) trailer!!!
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Re: First trailer for a new Volvo XC90 T8 - 5000 lb wt limit
« Reply #23 on: June 29, 2017, 06:12:14 PM »
Larry, Thank you. Poor word choice by me.  I meant ... the most your fully loaded car is designed to weigh.

Dochands,
When you fly, do you use the empty weight of your plane to determine if you are within weight limits, or do you use the loaded weight?

IGNORE DRY WT!  It is useless!   Use the GVWR.  If you travel light and are a bit below that weight, you have a safety factor.
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Re: First trailer for a new Volvo XC90 T8 - 5000 lb wt limit
« Reply #24 on: July 01, 2017, 05:03:33 PM »
some of y'all are looking at something the wrong way. GVWR , you don't subtract the whole weight of the camper, just the tongue weight. so if you have a GVWR that the math says you can carry 1600#, that's the people, gas, stuff in the back of the truck and tucked into the storage compartments, and the tongue weight of a trailer.

for towing purposes you should be looking at the gross COMBINED vehicle weight rating for your tow vehicle and figure the whole weight of the trailer into that.

this article covers it all pretty well  :)

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/auto-parts/towing/towing-capacity/vehicle%20/gcwr.htm
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Re: First trailer for a new Volvo XC90 T8 - 5000 lb wt limit
« Reply #25 on: July 01, 2017, 06:55:04 PM »
some of y'all are looking at something the wrong way. GVWR , you don't subtract the whole weight of the camper, just the tongue weight. so if you have a GVWR that the math says you can carry 1600#, that's the people, gas, stuff in the back of the truck and tucked into the storage compartments, and the tongue weight of a trailer.

for towing purposes you should be looking at the gross COMBINED vehicle weight rating for your tow vehicle and figure the whole weight of the trailer into that.

this article covers it all pretty well  :)

The GCWR ((fully loaded truck and fully loaded trailer) for my Nissan Frontier is 11230#. If I subtract the GVWR, 5666#,  for my truck from that; 11230-5666=5564. I should be able to tow 5564#. I can look at trailers with a GVWR of no more than 5564#. Am I looking at this correctly.

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/auto-parts/towing/towing-capacity/vehicle%20/gcwr.htm
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Re: First trailer for a new Volvo XC90 T8 - 5000 lb wt limit
« Reply #26 on: July 02, 2017, 12:39:17 AM »
The GCWR ((fully loaded truck and fully loaded trailer) for my Nissan Frontier is 11230#. If I subtract the GVWR, 5666#,  for my truck from that; 11230-5666=5564. I should be able to tow 5564#. I can look at trailers with a GVWR of no more than 5564#. Am I looking at this correctly.

that's the way I read that too. now you have me curious, what does the book say about your towing capacity? is it more or less than the 5564#?

And of course that's absolutely maxed out, and now we get into the conversation that some will say you should never max out, stay about 80% of it, which would be 4451# -  so that means either a lighter GVWR on the trailer, or just don't load the truck or the trailer to max capacity.

the big thing  is STOPPING not PULLING. just about any of us here could hook to just about whatever we want to and get it going on down the highway, but can we stop it when we need to?
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Re: First trailer for a new Volvo XC90 T8 - 5000 lb wt limit
« Reply #27 on: July 02, 2017, 08:00:17 AM »
that's the way I read that too. now you have me curious, what does the book say about your towing capacity? is it more or less than the 5564#?

And of course that's absolutely maxed out, and now we get into the conversation that some will say you should never max out, stay about 80% of it, which would be 4451# -  so that means either a lighter GVWR on the trailer, or just don't load the truck or the trailer to max capacity.

the big thing  is STOPPING not PULLING. just about any of us here could hook to just about whatever we want to and get it going on down the highway, but can we stop it when we need to?

So now we have to cut our tow rating back to 80% of GVWR. If this discussion continues much longer one will need Freightliner to tow a 3800 lb Winnie Drop.

I have heard the towing vs stopping statement many times and agree with it. With most any combination of truck and trailer you can get it rolling but you may have some serious difficulty stopping it.
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Re: First trailer for a new Volvo XC90 T8 - 5000 lb wt limit
« Reply #28 on: July 02, 2017, 05:31:34 PM »
The GCWR ((fully loaded truck and fully loaded trailer) for my Nissan Frontier is 11230#. If I subtract the GVWR, 5666#,  for my truck from that; 11230-5666=5564. I should be able to tow 5564#. I can look at trailers with a GVWR of no more than 5564#. Am I looking at this correctly.

Not really.  IF the truck is loaded to capacity, the max TT weight would be 5564# PLUS HITCH WT - carried by the truck and included in the GVWR.  You have about 600# hitch wt counted twice.

The published Max Tow comes at this from the opposite direction.  They start with a base model truck, max tow the ONLY option, full fuel tank and 2 passengers at 150# each.  They subtract this weight from GCWR.  NOT REAL WORLD!! 

My approach is to start with the real weight of the truck empty.  Subtract from GVWR to get actual Payload.  Subtract weight of all passengers, cargo and hitch.   What is left is max hitch wt.  Assuming 10% hitch wt.,   Max hitch wt X 10 = max TT  GVWR

If the truck is loaded to less than GVWR, then this allows more TT.
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Re: First trailer for a new Volvo XC90 T8 - 5000 lb wt limit
« Reply #29 on: July 02, 2017, 05:49:39 PM »
The GCWR ((fully loaded truck and fully loaded trailer) for my Nissan Frontier is 11230#. If I subtract the GVWR, 5666#,  for my truck from that; 11230-5666=5564. I should be able to tow 5564#. I can look at trailers with a GVWR of no more than 5564#. Am I looking at this correctly.

Not really.  IF the truck is loaded to capacity, the max TT weight would be 5564# PLUS HITCH WT - carried by the truck and included in the GVWR.  You have about 600# hitch wt counted twice.

The published Max Tow comes at this from the opposite direction.  They start with a base model truck, max tow the ONLY option, full fuel tank and 2 passengers at 150# each.  They subtract this weight from GCWR.  NOT REAL WORLD!!

Yeah, I don't even consider max tow weight, which is 6100#. If I were to consider trading our Winnie Drop I would look at something in the 5000# fully loaded trailer weight category.
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Re: First trailer for a new Volvo XC90 T8 - 5000 lb wt limit
« Reply #30 on: July 03, 2017, 06:59:28 PM »
The dry weight that is advertised in the trailer specs is almost always several hundred pounds less than the actual weight as delivered to the dealer. My new trailer had an advertised dry weight of 5400 pounds but weighed in at 6200 the day I bought it, brand new.

There is also the issue of frontal area which WILL be listed in your owners manual. The wind resistance from pulling a wall down the highway is far more stressful on your engine than the weight of the trailer and can cause you to overheat if it is exceeded. They test all these things and then write the manual so you do not have to guess. As a pilot you must be familiar with weights and engine performance so you are probably understanding that you need to be looking at smaller, lighter trailers or more capable tow vehicles. Yours might work for a trailer weighing 4000 pounds loaded but only with no passengers or gear in the vehicle besides yourself. The maximum tow weight can only be achieved with a flatbed trailer because it needs less tounge weight,(7%), and adds no frontal area to be pulled through the air.

Perhaps the hard sided A-liner style pop-up trailers would be a better match. Almost no frontal area but quite roomy when set up.

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Re: First trailer for a new Volvo XC90 T8 - 5000 lb wt limit
« Reply #31 on: July 03, 2017, 08:13:17 PM »
The Aliner trailers look pretty cool.  Being the owner of another "5000 # limit" vehicle, I'd say you're also safe with R-Pod style trailers.  Fiberglass clamshells like Scamp, Casita, and Escape as well.
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Re: First trailer for a new Volvo XC90 T8 - 5000 lb wt limit
« Reply #32 on: July 03, 2017, 08:21:14 PM »
The Winnie Drop 1710 has a GVWR of 3800#. You shouldn't have a problem with that.
2016 Winnebago Winnie Drop
2016 Nissan Frontier 4x4 Crew Cab
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