Blaise
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I just finished setting up my 2015 Sonic as a toad to pull behind our Winnie. I installed a blue ox base plate and am using a blue ox Alpha tow bar, and a RoadMaster magnetic light set. I wanted to get a custom light kit that I could just plug in (via T connector behind the Sonic's brake light assembly), but I had too hard a time getting hold of one, so I opted for the magnetic lights.
I ran a permanent 4-conductor cable from a 6-way plug mounted on the base plate to a socket in the rear of the car. I just throw the magnetic lights on top and plug the 4-way wire from the mag lights into the socked I mounted in the rear, and It's ready to go, without any wires outside the car to flail in the wind and mar the car's paint.
I have a Hopkins 7-way to 6-way tow cable (7-way coach to 6-way on car) to drive the mag lights from the coach. This all works great, but ...
I also ran a wire from the 12 volt feed on the 6-way socket (on the base plate) to a cigarette lighter socket that I mounted to the cars dash. This is to power a blue ox Patriot supplemental brake. The idea is to power the Patriot brake from the coach to avoid running the car battery down while towing.
I actually ran that 12 v wire to a switch also installed on the cars dash - the switch controls which vehicle supplies power to the cig lighter socket: either the car (useful when not towing) or the coach (useful when towing).
The problem is that the Patriot doesn't like it when powered from the coach - just says "Car battery low". But it works fine when powered from the car. Now, I measure 12 v on that cig lighter socket for either switch position (coach or toad) ... so I'm left scratching my head.
I'm beginning to think the problem is the ground connection. The negative lead on the cig lighter goes to car ground. So when switched to supply 12 v power from the coach, there is no electrical path back to the coach.
Also thinking that it's possible that the ground of the coach is at a slightly different level than the car ground. If so, it may be that 12 v from the coach (relative to the coach ground) is not a full 12 volts relative to the car ground.
I think that perhaps I should connect the coach ground to the car ground. That would level out the ground potential between the 2 vehicles, and provide a path back to the coach for the negative lead of the cig lighter socket when powered by the coach.
BUT I don't know if it's OK to connect the ground between the two vehicles, or whether that is even the problem.
Is that totally out of left field?? Got to admit I am confused and grasping for a solution.
Anyone have an idea about this? Connecting the ground between the vehicles may not fix my Patriot problem, but would doing that cause any harm? If not, I'd like to try it.
Thanks.
I ran a permanent 4-conductor cable from a 6-way plug mounted on the base plate to a socket in the rear of the car. I just throw the magnetic lights on top and plug the 4-way wire from the mag lights into the socked I mounted in the rear, and It's ready to go, without any wires outside the car to flail in the wind and mar the car's paint.
I have a Hopkins 7-way to 6-way tow cable (7-way coach to 6-way on car) to drive the mag lights from the coach. This all works great, but ...
I also ran a wire from the 12 volt feed on the 6-way socket (on the base plate) to a cigarette lighter socket that I mounted to the cars dash. This is to power a blue ox Patriot supplemental brake. The idea is to power the Patriot brake from the coach to avoid running the car battery down while towing.
I actually ran that 12 v wire to a switch also installed on the cars dash - the switch controls which vehicle supplies power to the cig lighter socket: either the car (useful when not towing) or the coach (useful when towing).
The problem is that the Patriot doesn't like it when powered from the coach - just says "Car battery low". But it works fine when powered from the car. Now, I measure 12 v on that cig lighter socket for either switch position (coach or toad) ... so I'm left scratching my head.
I'm beginning to think the problem is the ground connection. The negative lead on the cig lighter goes to car ground. So when switched to supply 12 v power from the coach, there is no electrical path back to the coach.
Also thinking that it's possible that the ground of the coach is at a slightly different level than the car ground. If so, it may be that 12 v from the coach (relative to the coach ground) is not a full 12 volts relative to the car ground.
I think that perhaps I should connect the coach ground to the car ground. That would level out the ground potential between the 2 vehicles, and provide a path back to the coach for the negative lead of the cig lighter socket when powered by the coach.
BUT I don't know if it's OK to connect the ground between the two vehicles, or whether that is even the problem.
Is that totally out of left field?? Got to admit I am confused and grasping for a solution.
Anyone have an idea about this? Connecting the ground between the vehicles may not fix my Patriot problem, but would doing that cause any harm? If not, I'd like to try it.
Thanks.