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What's the latest best way to get DirectTV
« on: July 01, 2017, 04:42:58 PM »
Hi Folks,

Been gone a while.  Kinda busy because I have two kids now and upgraded to a bunkhouse 5th wheel.  That's for a different thread sometime.

Twenty some years ago, I had  DirectTV for a while.  It was a pain setting it up every time and a lot of extra stuff to carry.  I'm thinking about getting it again because we are running into parks with no TV hookups and no signal, so....

I am an AT&T wireless customer for both phone and internet. We have two phones and one hot-spot on the same account, runs about $200 per month. 

Since AT&T bought DirecTV, there are obviously some package deals going on.

What is the best solution?  If I get it directly from them, supposedly there is no equipment cost, but they think I'm in a fixed location.

I have three TVs.  I checked into antenna options.  The best is a roof mount that handles three tvs simultaniously with only one receiver (I think) but it is almost $2000.  Out of my budget.  There is this portable dome shaped antenna for about $450 that can be mounted on the roof or set on the ground, but it only handles one TV at a time. 

That leaves me with the  pole or tripod mount version, which I haven't checked the price yet, but that used to take a lot of time and hassle to set up when I had one before. 

Then, how do they deal with homeless people these days?  They used to give us two local feeds, one from east coast and one from west coast.  What is the latest on this issue.

I've been out of touch and very uninformed on this subject because I've been just hooking up to Park Cable all these years.

Please educate me!

Thanks!
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Re: What's the latest best way to get DirectTV
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2017, 06:51:13 AM »
Welcome back Bruce, long time no talk.

Probably doesn't help you much, but ... we have DTV at home, so we just take a couple of receivers from home when we leave in the coach. Since we upgraded to HD at home several years ago, the old KingDome roof antenna no longer worked, and we bought the latest and greatest Winegard 'automatic' HD antenna for the roof of the coach. I considered the portable 'Tailgater' antenna, but chose to spring for the more expensive antenna.
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Re: What's the latest best way to get DirectTV
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2017, 09:36:21 AM »
I use a portable dish on a tripod. There are some smart phone apps that make setup easier than it used to be. I use one called SAToolz. You point the phone's camera at the southern sky, and the app superimposes red dots on the image, to indicate the location of the satellites. That really helps when you need to find a line of site through the trees. Make sure to get the DirecTV version/ There is also a version for Dish.

You can hook up multiple TVs to the receiver with this arrangement, so long as you don't need to watch different channels at the same time.

There is a way to call them to get local network channels where you are located, but it is such a pita, and there is so little on the networks worth watching, that I just don't bother with it.

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Re: What's the latest best way to get DirectTV
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2017, 10:15:37 AM »
Well, we need to be able to watch multiple channels simultaneously (there are four of us), so I guess that option is out, huh? There isn't an antenna on a tripod that does that?  The antenna on the roof allows it, but it is almost $2000.   How do I sign up for service, just go to an AT&T store?  AT&T supposedly provides all equipment for free, so I can just get a tripod for the antenna?  Will that work?
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Re: What's the latest best way to get DirectTV
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2017, 10:43:09 AM »
Well, we need to be able to watch multiple channels simultaneously (there are four of us), so I guess that option is out, huh? There isn't an antenna on a tripod that does that?  The antenna on the roof allows it, but it is almost $2000.   How do I sign up for service, just go to an AT&T store?  AT&T supposedly provides all equipment for free, so I can just get a tripod for the antenna?  Will that work?
Antenna on a tripod can provide the same SWM capabilities as the Trav'ler or S/B antenna (it's the same antenna). You will need a proper splitter with power inserter path to route to multiple receivers/Genie Clients or you will need wireless Genies with an HR54 hooked to your antenna.
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Re: What's the latest best way to get DirectTV
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2017, 01:16:04 PM »
Thhe Carryout dome portable dish supports two separate receivers
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Re: What's the latest best way to get DirectTV
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2017, 01:33:55 PM »
I'd start by calling either King or Winegard directly and work backwards. I purchased a King dome dish recently but only after I threw the oval dish I got from Ebay in the trash,(too much moving it and twisting it and tweeking it) The King dome is a set it down and forget it type of dish. I called King prior and had to make sure it works with my HR 54 receiver etc. Yes, the roof mounted dish can get HD and multiple receivers, but costs upwards of 2k.  The King dome is SD and only gets 1 satellite for channels. This plus my regular TT mounted free air antenna (locals) has me set pretty good.

Not sure on the east coast vs west coast thing, the King pulls in one satellite, which carries most of Directvs channels.
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Re: What's the latest best way to get DirectTV
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2017, 01:35:26 PM »
Welcome back Bruce, long time no talk.

Probably doesn't help you much, but ... we have DTV at home, so we just take a couple of receivers from home when we leave in the coach. Since we upgraded to HD at home several years ago, the old KingDome roof antenna no longer worked, and we bought the latest and greatest Winegard 'automatic' HD antenna for the roof of the coach. I considered the portable 'Tailgater' antenna, but chose to spring for the more expensive antenna.

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I get DirecTV in HD at my home.
However in my coach I get DirecTV only in SD... (via the now 18 year old Kingdome on my 21 year old Safari).

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Re: What's the latest best way to get DirectTV
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2017, 01:35:45 PM »
Well, we need to be able to watch multiple channels simultaneously (there are four of us), so I guess that option is out, huh? There isn't an antenna on a tripod that does that?  The antenna on the roof allows it, but it is almost $2000.   How do I sign up for service, just go to an AT&T store?  AT&T supposedly provides all equipment for free, so I can just get a tripod for the antenna?  Will that work?

Yes, you can get multiple tvs to work, you will need the oval dish on the tripod (about 100.00 on Ebay) or the upwards of 2k rooftop version.
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Re: What's the latest best way to get DirectTV
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2017, 02:51:06 PM »
Quote from: mel s
I get DirecTV in HD at my home. However in my coach I get DirecTV only in SD... (via the now 18 year old Kingdome on my 21 year old Safari).

Mel, our new (1-year ago) HD antenna doesn't work with our old DTV (SD) receivers.
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« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2017, 08:24:06 AM »
Mel, our new (1-year ago) HD antenna doesn't work with our old DTV receivers.

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If that new antenna is a satellite antenna designed to receive DirecTV HD programing you can only use satellite receiver(s) compatible with that satellite antenna.

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« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2017, 08:33:25 AM »
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If that new antenna is a satellite antenna designed to receive DirecTV HD programing you can only use satellite receiver(s) compatible with that satellite antenna.

That was my point mel. The new DTV HD antenna is not compatible with our older DTV SD receivers. I probably didn't explain it very clearly.
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Re: What's the latest best way to get DirectTV
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2017, 06:07:35 AM »
I called DTV and had them install the HD in my RV they setup a "no pin" dish basically a frame held down by blocks. Inside i have a power inserter and a wireless bridge to supply 3 tv's. I've also bought a meter to help with setup but the apps work well too, the installer used 1 to get close.
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Re: What's the latest best way to get DirectTV
« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2017, 11:04:53 AM »
OK, here is the latest in my adventure:

The RV park I was in has an over the air antenna, but it only serves six sites (where they put the overnighters).  We were in one of those sites but got kicked out because we were overwhelming their sewer system (septic tank with NO drainfield so it has to be pumped out when full).  Now we are in a long term site, but only for a month and an half then we move on.  We will have park cable at the next location, Williamsport PA.

OK, so I went to Best Buy and bought an over the air antenna.  They said it was the greatest thing since sliced bread and had a built in amplifier that had to be supplied by AC power with an extension cord.  I went to Camping world and bought a tripod.

I brought it home, assembled it, hooked it up.  It has no amplifier.  I get no signal at all.  I am between three mountains here.

So I'm gonna take the antenna back but probably keep the tripod.  I think I can use it for any antenna.

So my next questions are:

  • Can I buy DirecTV without a contract?  When I go to Brazil, I want to turn the service off until I get back.  Also I might not be able to afford it after I get a new job that doesn't require travel.
  • Is there a special plan for RVers?
  • Do I have to buy the equipment  from them, or can I buy it online?
  • I need three receivers, right?  How big are they?  If bigger than about 4x4x2, I won't have room for two of them.

I'm going to go to an AT&T store and inquire, but I'm not sure if they are used to dealing with fulltimers.
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Re: What's the latest best way to get DirectTV
« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2017, 03:07:02 PM »
OK, here is the latest in my adventure:

The RV park I was in has an over the air antenna, but it only serves six sites (where they put the overnighters).  We were in one of those sites but got kicked out because we were overwhelming their sewer system (septic tank with NO drainfield so it has to be pumped out when full).  Now we are in a long term site, but only for a month and an half then we move on.  We will have park cable at the next location, Williamsport PA.

OK, so I went to Best Buy and bought an over the air antenna.  They said it was the greatest thing since sliced bread and had a built in amplifier that had to be supplied by AC power with an extension cord.  I went to Camping world and bought a tripod.

I brought it home, assembled it, hooked it up.  It has no amplifier.  I get no signal at all.  I am between three mountains here.

So I'm gonna take the antenna back but probably keep the tripod.  I think I can use it for any antenna.

So my next questions are:

  • Can I buy DirecTV without a contract?  When I go to Brazil, I want to turn the service off until I get back.  Also I might not be able to afford it after I get a new job that doesn't require travel.
  • Is there a special plan for RVers?
  • Do I have to buy the equipment  from them, or can I buy it online?
  • I need three receivers, right?  How big are they?  If bigger than about 4x4x2, I won't have room for two of them.

I'm going to go to an AT&T store and inquire, but I'm not sure if they are used to dealing with fulltimers.


1. Dish has a month to month plan directv doesn't
2. For a RV they will sell you a distant network plan at a cost per station you have to certify the antenna is permanently mounted to the rv.
3. the equipment is leased from them or you can purchase it and pay the say fee for service.
4. the wireless remote boxes are about that size and can be put behind the TV or anywhere within reach of a HDMI cable
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Re: What's the latest best way to get DirectTV
« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2017, 04:43:30 PM »
"2. For a RV they will sell you a distant network plan at a cost per station you have to certify the antenna is permanently mounted to the rv."

Every park I stay in I see people with DirecTV mounted on a tripod, or on one of those portable dome like antennas sitting on the ground.  My next door neighbor has DirecTV on a tripod. 

How do they get away with that if it has to be permanently mounted to the RV?  The one that goes on the roof is $2000.  I can't afford it.  I've got 3 TVs. 
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« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2017, 04:56:02 PM »
Glen was talking about Dish, not Direct.
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« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2017, 06:02:49 AM »
I was talking about directv if you want locals that are "on "everywhere you need DNS.
If not you have to call them and change your service address every time you move more than about 100 miles. Which can be a lot of trouble some of their reps don't know what you want and end up transferring you to the movers connection who want to setup a new dish.
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Re: What's the latest best way to get DirectTV
« Reply #18 on: July 23, 2017, 07:19:07 AM »
I had been thinking about adding DirectTV at home and benefiting from reducing the cost for an RV by using one of the 4 TVs as the RV, but when I started trying to figure out the channel options the special deals for AT&T no longer looked so special. And, I found that the people who answer the phones at DirectTV are clueless on just about every topic. Now I read that getting local stations with DirectTV is a PITA. I sympathize with fulltimers like the OP who have little choice but to deal with these poorly trained people.
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« Reply #19 on: July 23, 2017, 09:35:05 AM »
Now I'm really confused.  What is DNS?  Websites use DNS servers to resolve the domain name with the IP address, right? 

"2. For a RV they will sell you a distant network plan at a cost per station you have to certify the antenna is permanently mounted to the rv."

Is that what you are talking about, Distant Network Plan?  And what is this about notifying them everytime you move 100 miles?  I'm moving all over the country on a moment's notice. 

When I had DirecTV back in ancient history, I had an east coast local feed and a west coast local feed.  I never had to change anything.  I could get all the stuff like Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy, which we watch, and stuff like that.

Which service requires the antenna to be permanently mounted?  DTV or Dish? One of my neighbors in this park has DTV on a tripod and the neighbor on the other side has Dish on a tripod.  How do they get away with that?

I'm gonna go to the AT&T store and talk with them today about DTV.  Supposedly if you have DTV you get it bundled with your phone bill and get unlimited data and streaming video on your phone.  My internet is also on ATT with a mobile hotspot.

But when I go to Brazil, I reduce my data to the minimum while I am there, and I would want to turn the DTV off too.  Last time I was there 5 months and had no income due to being laid off.  I'd hate to be paying for DTV in that situation. 

Now I'm considering Dish as a possibility too because of the no contract thing. I think they can probably sign me up at Camping World.  They sell antennas for both.  I bought the King tripod from them to use with the over the air antenna I am going to return today.  I really like that tripod, it folds up and goes in a sack.  I think I could use it for a mounted dish as well as the dome antenna it was made for.  The dome antenna costs a lot more money and only serves two TVs, but the dish will handle three or more TVs, so even though I have to set it up every time, it is both cheaper and better, right?

I think the King antenna handles two TVs but costs over $500. I'm seeing the dish and LNA for under $100 on some sites.

And if DirecTV won't let me buy all my own equipment and get service without a contract, I'll consider Dish as an alternative.
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Re: What's the latest best way to get DirectTV
« Reply #20 on: July 23, 2017, 09:37:42 AM »
https://www.amazon.com/DIRECTV-Mobile-Portable-Satellite-Tripod/dp/B00XKETIEW/ref=pd_lpo_vtph_23_bs_t_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=9PV0FGSND1ZGV33J8009

Here's an example of a kit I can buy from Amazon.  Then I need the receivers, but I need them anyway.
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« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2017, 10:10:36 AM »
Now I'm really confused.  What is DNS?  Websites use DNS servers to resolve the domain name with the IP address, right? 
DNS = Distant Network Service. Pay option via DirecTV for either NY, East Coast or LA, West Coast major network feeds via your satellite service. Includes PBS, ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox, CW located between channel 388 and 399.

"2. For a RV they will sell you a distant network plan at a cost per station you have to certify the antenna is permanently mounted to the rv."

Is that what you are talking about, Distant Network Plan?  And what is this about notifying them everytime you move 100 miles?  I'm moving all over the country on a moment's notice. 
When I had DirecTV back in ancient history, I had an east coast local feed and a west coast local feed.  I never had to change anything.  I could get all the stuff like Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy, which we watch, and stuff like that.
Not exactly...You must apply for DNS stating that your account is a mobile plan using an online form. No requirement that antenna be permanently mounted to anything. You will get either East or West coast feed, not both.
I'm gonna go to the AT&T store and talk with them today about DTV.  Supposedly if you have DTV you get it bundled with your phone bill and get unlimited data and streaming video on your phone.  My internet is also on ATT with a mobile hotspot.

But when I go to Brazil, I reduce my data to the minimum while I am there, and I would want to turn the DTV off too.  Last time I was there 5 months and had no income due to being laid off.  I'd hate to be paying for DTV in that situation. 

Now I'm considering Dish as a possibility too because of the no contract thing. I think they can probably sign me up at Camping World.  They sell antennas for both.  I bought the King tripod from them to use with the over the air antenna I am going to return today.  I really like that tripod, it folds up and goes in a sack.  I think I could use it for a mounted dish as well as the dome antenna it was made for.  The dome antenna costs a lot more money and only serves two TVs, but the dish will handle three or more TVs, so even though I have to set it up every time, it is both cheaper and better, right?

Do not expect much help at the AT&T store. With joint AT&T DirecTV billing you get a $10.00 savings. With an RV account you can suspend it up to two times a year...so they say. Which should entail no charges while suspended. With DirecTV dome antennas you can not receive HD programming; only SD.
No experience with Dish network or offerings.
Now I'm considering Dish as a possibility too because of the no contract thing. I think they can probably sign me up at Camping World.  They sell antennas for both.  I bought the King tripod from them to use with the over the air antenna I am going to return today.  I really like that tripod, it folds up and goes in a sack.  I think I could use it for a mounted dish as well as the dome antenna it was made for.  The dome antenna costs a lot more money and only serves two TVs, but the dish will handle three or more TVs, so even though I have to set it up every time, it is both cheaper and better, right?

I think the King antenna handles two TVs but costs over $500. I'm seeing the dish and LNA for under $100 on some sites.

And if DirecTV won't let me buy all my own equipment and get service without a contract, I'll consider Dish as an alternative.
Portable setups are an economical solution that with practice can be setup for use in about 10 to 15 minutes and you can more readily avoid trees.
You may purchase DirecTV equipment but when registered with them for service, they treat like leased property (the card).
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Re: What's the latest best way to get DirectTV
« Reply #22 on: July 23, 2017, 10:17:16 AM »
https://www.amazon.com/DIRECTV-Mobile-Portable-Satellite-Tripod/dp/B00XKETIEW/ref=pd_lpo_vtph_23_bs_t_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=9PV0FGSND1ZGV33J8009

Here's an example of a kit I can buy from Amazon.  Then I need the receivers, but I need them anyway.
For multiple TVs you will also need a RF splitter such this.
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Re: What's the latest best way to get DirectTV
« Reply #23 on: July 23, 2017, 10:21:52 AM »
For multiple TVs you will also need a RF splitter such this.

The splitter is built into the RV.   I have a 5th wheel that is wired for three TVs directly from the manufacturer.
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Re: What's the latest best way to get DirectTV
« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2017, 10:29:52 AM »
DNS = Distant Network Service. Pay option via DirecTV for either NY, East Coast or LA, West Coast major network feeds via your satellite service. Includes PBS, ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox, CW located between channel 388 and 399.Not exactly...You must apply for DNS stating that your account is a mobile plan using an online form. No requirement that antenna be permanently mounted to anything. You will get either East or West coast feed, not both.Do not expect much help at the AT&T store. With joint AT&T DirecTV billing you get a $10.00 savings. With an RV account you can suspend it up to two times a year...so they say. Which should entail no charges while suspended. With DirecTV dome antennas you can not receive HD programming; only SD.
No experience with Dish network or offerings.Portable setups are an economical solution that with practice can be setup for use in about 10 to 15 minutes and you can more readily avoid trees.
You may purchase DirecTV equipment but when registered with them for service, they treat like leased property (the card).
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Re: What's the latest best way to get DirectTV
« Reply #25 on: July 23, 2017, 11:09:05 AM »
The splitter is built into the RV.   I have a 5th wheel that is wired for three TVs directly from the manufacturer.

Hmmm, not so sure that is what you really need. The "every day" type of  built-in splitter will mean that every TV will have the same channel on it. With a satellite system, should you wish to watch different channels on each TV, you need 3 set top boxes or a box that can handle for than one TV. The splitter shown by BobnSam spits the signal from a single dish to the various set top boxes, unlike the built-in ones in your trailer. The built-in one is likely sufficient for a cable setup but not for satellite.

I only know of one box from Dish that could do that for 2 TV's but it has been long discontinued. (Channel selection is made by the box, not the TV.)
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Re: What's the latest best way to get DirectTV
« Reply #26 on: July 23, 2017, 12:05:13 PM »
For multiple TVs you will also need a RF splitter such this.
splitter in RV is normally didicated to OTA and park TV inputs to your TVs and not routed to yourDirecTV receiver. It also does not have a DC pass path for the antenna power supply.
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I would go to dish but they don't offer channels that DW has to have.
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« Reply #28 on: July 23, 2017, 12:39:17 PM »
splitter in RV is normally didicated to OTA and park TV inputs to your TVs and not routed to yourDirecTV receiver. It also does not have a DC pass path for the antenna power supply.

I have no idea what OTA is.  But I have two hookups, one for park cable and one for satellite. It's a 2016 RV pre-wired for satellite. I have no capability of routing new cables to the TVs.  If I have to do that, I'm sunk.  I would have to rip the RV apart, and I can't even get access to the back of the main TV in the living room.

When I had cable TV hooked up, the installer disconnected the TV coax from the wall outlet and connected to the cable box.  In the two bedrooms he was able to connect HDMI to the TVs, but in the living room he couldn't access it, so he put the cable box in series with the TV coaxial input.
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« Reply #29 on: July 23, 2017, 12:41:44 PM »
Hmmm, not so sure that is what you really need. The "every day" type of  built-in splitter will mean that every TV will have the same channel on it. With a satellite system, should you wish to watch different channels on each TV, you need 3 set top boxes or a box that can handle for than one TV. The splitter shown by BobnSam spits the signal from a single dish to the various set top boxes, unlike the built-in ones in your trailer. The built-in one is likely sufficient for a cable setup but not for satellite.

I only know of one box from Dish that could do that for 2 TV's but it has been long discontinued. (Channel selection is made by the box, not the TV.)

That's not the way my RV is wired.  A receiver goes between the wall outlet and the TV in each location.  Each TV can be on different channels.  I have two hookups, one for Park Cable, and one for Satellite.  I really don't think I need an additional splitter.  If I do, I'm sunk because I'm not going to rip the RV apart and rewire it.
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« Reply #30 on: July 23, 2017, 12:47:55 PM »
SWMBO rules ;D

What is DW and SWMBO? 
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« Reply #31 on: July 23, 2017, 01:22:03 PM »
OK, try it and find out but.... (By the way (BTW)... set top box = receiver I referred to in my note above...)

 But the problem lies in feeding the satellite signal to each of the 3 receivers with the signal from that one little dish.  That is what the RF splitter  BobandSam was showing you does. You cannot just simply split that wire between the 3 receiver inputs using a normal splitters. I would be very surprised if the type he showed was installed as I believe they are very specific to either Dish or Direct systems. You should not need to rip the RV apart but it will take some study to figure out how to wire everything together with what is actually installed in your RV.

DW= Dear Wife, SWMBO= She Who Must Be Obeyed, same thing in many cases :-\

OTA is "Over The Air", the good old antenna system. You may also have a "box of many buttons" or BOMB, AKA a signal source selection box, with which you can select either a satellite, cable or antenna input for each TV. Also, you will likely have a small power supply that is used in conjunction with the antenna, if you have one, and it is turned On for "antenna" and Off for cable.
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« Reply #32 on: July 23, 2017, 02:30:45 PM »
OTA is "Over-The-Air" or antenna.
Most prewired coaches route the satellite connection to "Some place inside" where you hook up your satellite equipment including antenna power supply, splitter and receiver equipment. Receiver hooks up to a TV or TVS if you have HDMI splitter and HDMI Wiring to other coach TVs. Other option is preempt (move) antenna coax from another TV to the satellite splitter and put another receiver at that location. If you need to do this you will have to reconnect to original if you want to watch OTA stuff. Some people use RF switches to move back an forth.
So connections would be antenna to coach connection to sat pwr supply to splitter to sat receiver to TV for one TV. Additional TVS from splitter to receiver to TV.
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What is DW and SWMBO?
SWMBO = She Who Must Be Obeyed
DW = Dear/Darn/D@#n Wife ;D .

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Here is what I have done, started with Direct TV as that is what I have at home,  Standard definition only I did not want to pay for an HD antenna and manually tune it, yes I know you can get an automatic but $1500 is out of the question for me. I got tired of setting the antenna up and pointing it I know it is no big deal but sometimes it was. I switched to Dish Network, got a Tailgater and pay monthly, no you do not need a mounted antenna to do month to month. I only use 1 TV in the FW.
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I have no idea what OTA is.  But I have two hookups, one for park cable and one for satellite. It's a 2016 RV pre-wired for satellite. I have no capability of routing new cables to the TVs.  If I have to do that, I'm sunk.  I would have to rip the RV apart, and I can't even get access to the back of the main TV in the living room.

When I had cable TV hooked up, the installer disconnected the TV coax from the wall outlet and connected to the cable box.  In the two bedrooms he was able to connect HDMI to the TVs, but in the living room he couldn't access it, so he put the cable box in series with the TV coaxial input.

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OTA is "Over The Air"... which you receive with an antenna like the Winegard "batwing" OTA antenna:
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Although I have a Kingdome on my coach and I pay DirecTV  for programing, (and for DNS), I get local channels nearly everywhere OTA.
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OTA = Over-the-Air or what we used to call Through-the-Air.  Those are the local channels you sometimes get via your old crank-up TV antenna like we used to have in the days before satellite and cable TV.  In our motorhome we get OTA, satellite, and cable TV channels.  We've had DirecTV for years.  The old round dish antennas work with Standard Definition satellite channels, but if you want High Definition TV those are on different satellite channels and you have to upgrade to a larger oval dish that can skew to different angles in the sky in order to point to the appropriate satellite.  It's been an evolving process that changes because the channel providers like DirecTV and Dish sometimes change what channels are on a satellite.

We started many years ago with a round dish we put on the ground or a picnic table.  Eventually we upgraded to a Motosat roof-mounted dish that was automated.  About the time Motosat disappeared our dish started having problems.  Our latest upgrade was to the RF Mogul roof-mounted automatic dish for DirecTV's high definition channels.  They have a different one for Dish for its different skewing.  The beauty of this one is that you press Find to find the correct satellite or you press Stow to make the dish go down.  There are other things in the box but those are the two most important functions.  When you press Find the dish rises, turns in a circular motion, and then starts angling or skewing to find the correct place in the sky.

Regarding the local channels I said earlier that you can "sometimes" get them OTA (depending on your location), via cable TV, or via satellite if you sign up for them.  If local channels are received via satellite they're in a "spot beam" which is a narrow area in which you can see them.  When you move out of the spot beam, which can cover a couple of hundred miles (for example from Salt Lake City to Phoenix or Las Vegas to Yuma), you lose the local channels you see via satellite.  You also can sign up for the Distant Network Channels which are the major networks in New York (east coast) and Los Angeles (west coast).  The Mississippi River is roughly the dividing line between the east/west channels.  When you go from one half of the country to the other, you have to talk to the provider so they know you have changed Locations (not your billing address).

I haven't kept up with the complexities of ordering channels from either DirecTV or Dish, but a lot of it has been determined by court cases.  For example when we first got DirecTV many years ago we got L.A., San Francisco and San Diego on the west coast and N.Y., Washington, and I think Atlanta on the east coast.  One morning we watched our channels and that night they were all gone!  In order to get them back we had to have a notarized paper stating that this set was on an RV and was mobile.  That was a scramble because we were at Rocky Mountain National Park and had to find a notary and mail the paperwork.  That hassle was caused when a law suit was settled that had to do with a concept called "equal access" which then allowed RVers to have satellite TV.  Back then you weren't allowed to have satellite if you had cable.  In other words, there was no competition!  A few years ago there was another event that caused the providers to split access between the east and west coasts.

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The Mississippi River is roughly the dividing line between the east/west channels.  When you go from one half of the country to the other, you have to talk to the provider so they know you have changed Locations (not your billing address).
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« Reply #39 on: July 23, 2017, 08:50:45 PM »
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OTA is "Over The Air"... which you receive with an antenna like the Winegard "batwing" OTA antenna:
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b298/professor95/Wingmandirection.jpg

Although I have a Kingdome on my coach and I pay DirecTV  for programing, (and for DNS), I get local channels nearly everywhere OTA.

My OTA antenna has never worked.  I took delivery of my trailer in January 2016, I have tried many times to make it work with no luck.  The RV park we are in now has an OTA antenna on a 50' tower but only connected to six sites.  I was in one of those for a month, but they kicked me out for using too much water.  Now I am in a site with NO TV, so I went and bought an OTA antenna at Best Buy, but no dice. Doesn't work. 

Took it back.  Went to AT&T, they sold me DirecTV Now which works streaming, but I got home and they didn't include an HTMI cable so I can't use it. 

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« Reply #40 on: July 23, 2017, 08:53:55 PM »
SWMBO = She Who Must Be Obeyed
DW = Dear/Darn/D@#n Wife ;D .

Oh Stu said all this also.

Is the wife Bob or Sam?  I'm confused.
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« Reply #41 on: July 23, 2017, 08:58:21 PM »
Here's the latest.

I went to Best Buy, AT&T twice and Camping World.

I returned the OTA antenna at Best Buy and the tripod at camping world.  They sell mostly Dish, but didn't have a Dish antenna, well not a  dish Dish, only the portably carry out that only handles two TVs.

AT&T sold me DirecTV now that works with the internet connection, no antenna needed.  They have a device that connects to the TV with an HDMI cable.  I bought two.  got home and no cable's included.  It's 80 miles round trip to the store. 

I was really, really pissed off. I don't mind paying extra for the cable but TELL me I need to buy a cable when I buy the boxes!

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Is the wife Bob or Sam?  I'm confused.
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« Reply #43 on: July 23, 2017, 10:56:35 PM »
SAM. What's confusing about that?

I thought Bob and Sam were both guy's names.  That's all.  It's easy to be confused in this strange new world.  Sorry.

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I thought Bob and Sam were both guy's names.  That's all.  It's easy to be confused in this strange new world.  Sorry.

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« Reply #45 on: July 24, 2017, 08:54:13 AM »
OTA = Over-the-Air or what we used to call Through-the-Air.  Those are the local channels you sometimes get via your old crank-up TV antenna like we used to have in the days before satellite and cable TV.  In our motorhome we get OTA, satellite, and cable TV channels.  We've had DirecTV for years.  The old round dish antennas work with Standard Definition satellite channels, but if you want High Definition TV those are on different satellite channels and you have to upgrade to a larger oval dish that can skew to different angles in the sky in order to point to the appropriate satellite.  It's been an evolving process that changes because the channel providers like DirecTV and Dish sometimes change what channels are on a satellite.

We started many years ago with a round dish we put on the ground or a picnic table.  Eventually we upgraded to a Motosat roof-mounted dish that was automated.  About the time Motosat disappeared our dish started having problems.  Our latest upgrade was to the RF Mogul roof-mounted automatic dish for DirecTV's high definition channels.  They have a different one for Dish for its different skewing.  The beauty of this one is that you press Find to find the correct satellite or you press Stow to make the dish go down.  There are other things in the box but those are the two most important functions.  When you press Find the dish rises, turns in a circular motion, and then starts angling or skewing to find the correct place in the sky.

Regarding the local channels I said earlier that you can "sometimes" get them OTA (depending on your location), via cable TV, or via satellite if you sign up for them.  If local channels are received via satellite they're in a "spot beam" which is a narrow area in which you can see them.  When you move out of the spot beam, which can cover a couple of hundred miles (for example from Salt Lake City to Phoenix or Las Vegas to Yuma), you lose the local channels you see via satellite.  You also can sign up for the Distant Network Channels which are the major networks in New York (east coast) and Los Angeles (west coast).  The Mississippi River is roughly the dividing line between the east/west channels.  When you go from one half of the country to the other, you have to talk to the provider so they know you have changed Locations (not your billing address).

I haven't kept up with the complexities of ordering channels from either DirecTV or Dish, but a lot of it has been determined by court cases.  For example when we first got DirecTV many years ago we got L.A., San Francisco and San Diego on the west coast and N.Y., Washington, and I think Atlanta on the east coast.  One morning we watched our channels and that night they were all gone!  In order to get them back we had to have a notarized paper stating that this set was on an RV and was mobile.  That was a scramble because we were at Rocky Mountain National Park and had to find a notary and mail the paperwork.  That hassle was caused when a law suit was settled that had to do with a concept called "equal access" which then allowed RVers to have satellite TV.  Back then you weren't allowed to have satellite if you had cable.  In other words, there was no competition!  A few years ago there was another event that caused the providers to split access between the east and west coasts.

I hope this helps clarify some of the answers you've gotten to your questions and not muddied things further!

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That is a excellent explanation.

However I believe you must change your "billing address" to change the DirecTV DNS service from east to west, (or from west to east).... you can't simply contact DirectTV and request that change.

BTW I get both the east DNS feeds and the west DNS feeds because I had both when the rule changed and I was "grandfathered" in.

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I don't mind paying extra for the cable but TELL me I need to buy a cable when I buy the boxes!

For an HDMI cable, you can buy them at ANY store that sells TV etc, even Walmart!! Hope they didn't charge you for the ones you expected but did not get. No need to travel 80 miles in most cases.
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BTW I get both the east DNS feeds and the west DNS feeds because I had both when the rule changed and I was "grandfathered" in.

Yes, we also were grandfathered in because of that notarized piece of paper we filled out many years ago, about 1997.  Jerry usually handles the DirecTV "stuff" so that's why I don't know much about the "new" east/west dividing line.

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Oh, yes.  Lots of things in fact.  ;D ::) ;D

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Blushing red, Tom!!!  He was the brain who got the ideas flowing, I was the wordsmith, and we had wonderful editors who put up with both of us!!  One was a really nice lady by the name of Priscilla who did pretty well at controlling us both through several editions.  Her favorite word was "arduous" and I still think of her every time I hear it.  It takes a lot of dedicated people doing many arduous tasks to write college textbooks, so we didn't do it alone - but, thank you for the really nice compliment.

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For an HDMI cable, you can buy them at ANY store that sells TV etc, even Walmart!! Hope they didn't charge you for the ones you expected but did not get. No need to travel 80 miles in most cases.

That is unless you are in the boonies.  I'm working a 10 hour shift on a mountain top that doesn't even have cellular coverage, 30 mile round trip from the RV park to the jobsite, and the last 6 miles is gravel.  Then when I get home, it is another 30 miles one way to the nearest store, Best Buy which is next door to the AT&T store where I got the devices. The nearest Walmart is closer to 35 or 40 miles away. So it's either order on line or wait until the weekend.  However I can watch TV on m phone or computer in the meanwhile. 
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« Reply #55 on: July 25, 2017, 07:30:24 AM »
Bruce satellite signals needs a power source for signal generation that most splitters cannot handle. Also most newer boxes generate the signal from the box to the TV (s) as an HDMI or composite signal, not over coax.

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« Reply #56 on: July 25, 2017, 02:19:44 PM »
Thank you, Margi and BobNSam.  And, Margi, right back at you because you've been around here as long as us!  I really value our framily and the many good times we've shared.

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Re: What's the latest best way to get DirectTV
« Reply #59 on: October 12, 2017, 10:36:19 PM »
The thing with that splitter is the power pass. Both companies will insist on all RG6 wire and components but as an ex DirecTV and Dish network installer the way I handled RVs with DirecTV was on a temp pad of some sort tripod, pallet, metal frame with blocks, etc. just about anything I could mount the dish itself on run wire to camper and either put my power inserter under or in a storage area with a power plug then continue to outside cable/satellite hookup to distribute throughout the trailer itself and receivers at each tv location. Normal install is putting the power inserter at the main receiver inside and many do not know any better and that is the point of the splitter with power pass, to pass power back to the dish as it has to be on that specific line on the splitter. By putting it before you bypass that issue.

Done this many many times on brand new campers as well as campers almost as old as I am without issues. People will argue otherwise but from experience I can tell you it works. The hardest part when moving from site to site is before you setup anything be sure the mount is absolutely plumb and level, then set dish skew(twist) and elevation to the required setting for the area you are in, then peak the dish in and you are good to go. I make no promises but it does work.

Better yet chase down one of those trucks and talk to the driver, with a few dollars offered they may just take care of you now and whenever in the area. I haven't done this work for a few years and still get calls when old customers come back to the area.

 

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