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Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« on: July 10, 2017, 11:33:42 AM »
I just got an email from Gas Buddy that has a map of RV friendly gas stations. It certainly isn't all conclusive, but is a start. There is a place to add a station, so those of us that do have and use the app stand to help make it a useful map.
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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2017, 11:52:27 AM »
THAT will actually be very helpful!
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« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2017, 02:47:05 PM »
I was on my gas buddy app and did not see where I could select RV friendly gas stations. Do they just show up or do you filter them. I saw nothing in the filters either.

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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2017, 02:52:48 PM »
I'm wondering what the criteria is for an RV friendly gas station?
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« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2017, 02:57:45 PM »
I'm wondering what the criteria is for an RV friendly gas station?

Since their info is crowd sourced guessing it will just be subjective user opinion. Might be worth something, or not
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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2017, 03:05:28 PM »
Might be very valuable.
I had an iphone app a while back that was supposed to do this but just targeted diesel lanes. Pooffed it.
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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2017, 07:10:03 PM »
What  does RV friendly even mean? To me, it means there is enough room to get diesel fuel into my rig. Many, maybe most, Walmart (Murphy) stations fit my criteria.
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« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2017, 07:26:52 PM »
What  does RV friendly even mean?

Can you get in and, even more importantly, can you get back out?
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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2017, 04:07:47 PM »
Yep, getting out can be a real bear.  Some of the earliest Flying J RV islands fit into that category because you're driving toward the building that has parking in front of it.  I don't consider those "RV friendly" no matter who says it!

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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2017, 05:47:34 PM »
Plus, what's RV friendly to me in a 24' class C, may not be so friendly to someone in a 45' DP with a toad.
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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2017, 06:35:57 PM »
where do you find it on the app? mine does not show anything about rv's on it

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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2017, 06:04:39 AM »
I received it in an email from Gas Buddy. Just looked at the app though, and I also didn't find anything about an RV friendly tab. I did find it online though:

http://business.gasbuddy.com/rv-friendly-gas-stations/
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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2017, 06:35:02 AM »
Looks to be a web page with stations mapped.  Descriptions are linked, but no photo or details.
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« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2017, 06:43:10 AM »
I think think Gas Buddy needs a tab under their amenities tab like they they have for truck stops, etc. I would think for this to work for RV'ers, we would all need to provide good input to Gas Buddy to maybe help them develop some good criteria to define "RV friendly"
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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2017, 07:17:46 AM »
I agree with the RV tab. It is really useless as it is. Have to have a computer running while looking for an RV friendly station.
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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2017, 07:44:24 AM »
I received it in an email from Gas Buddy. Just looked at the app though, and I also didn't find anything about an RV friendly tab. I did find it online though:

http://business.gasbuddy.com/rv-friendly-gas-stations/

It is nice to see that they are thinking about RVs, but this appears to be only half baked with what they have here.  We are still better off with other phone apps for truck stops.  Perhaps with some feedback to them they will eventually have something useful.
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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2017, 12:52:12 PM »
good to see some movement towards RV friendly gas stations as that means to me a gas pump that can handle Class C's with a toad....as its the "gas" part thats problematic with RVs that use gas
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« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2017, 01:04:02 PM »
I just got an email from Gas Buddy that has a map of RV friendly gas stations. It certainly isn't all conclusive, but is a start. There is a place to add a station, so those of us that do have and use the app stand to help make it a useful map.

Ok, if you have a google account its simple to  copy this map to your google account and save it and then add or edit as needed.  It would be located in your "Drive" section.  I find this to be awesome as now I can add gas stations I know that are gas friendly.  You can add different layers to the map as well for other points of interest
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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #18 on: July 17, 2017, 09:28:50 PM »
I received it in an email from Gas Buddy. Just looked at the app though, and I also didn't find anything about an RV friendly tab. I did find it online though:

http://business.gasbuddy.com/rv-friendly-gas-stations/

Not one station listed in Michigan?  Something doesn't look right if that's the case.
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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #19 on: July 17, 2017, 10:15:04 PM »
I use Pilot and Lowes app on my IPhone.
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« Reply #20 on: September 08, 2017, 02:48:58 PM »
Hi Everyone,

I work for GasBuddy, and I would love to enhance the experience for RV'ers using our app and website. We're considering adding amenities to help RVers find what they are looking for. I think kdbgoat nailed it on the head when he said we need a definition of what RV friendly means. It seems that everyone has their own definition as well as their own requirements.

I think think Gas Buddy needs a tab under their amenities tab like they they have for truck stops, etc. I would think for this to work for RV'ers, we would all need to provide good input to Gas Buddy to maybe help them develop some good criteria to define "RV friendly"

What I'm asking for is a conversation where we try to build a consensus on what would be most helpful for RVer's in the app, specifically regarding Amenities. I think the important one to nail down is what "RV Friendly" means, regarding canopy size and turning radius. Secondary would be other amenities that you would find helpful, Overnight Parking, Waste Dumps, etc.

If you have any other requests or suggestions for features that you would like to see in the app, feel free to post it here or email me at aburant@gasbuddy.com.

Thanks,
Andrew!

Feel free to delete this post if it's against forum rules. I read through them and I didn't think it broke any of them.  I'm just looking to help develop a feature that helps the RV community!
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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #21 on: September 08, 2017, 03:11:07 PM »
What would get me to use Gas Buddy a lot more in the RV?
Notes about:
1) straight drive through vs tight turns
2) propane, potable water, or dump available
3) dips in the drive (I've scraped the hitch getting in/out of a few places)
4) low canopies or other obstructions

Position of the pumps is something to consider. With the gas cap so far back on the RV I often have to have the nose out into the drive lane to get the nozzle close enough. Just knowing if the lanes are parallel to the storefront or perpendicular would help decide between stations at a crossroads.

I would pay a nickel more per gallon for easier drive through.
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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #22 on: September 08, 2017, 03:13:18 PM »
RV Friendly would be Canopy high enough to get under without worry, wide lanes and large enough lot to enter and exit both diesel and Gas pump lanes easily with a 40 foot rig, and Toad or trailer, extra RV Parking area (Like Cracker Barrel parking lots) for shopping after fueling.

Addition RV friendly features would be, Waste dumping station with easy access, Potable water for refilling tanks, Pet walking area, high pressure air supply for RV tires, High speed Wi-Fi or even just 4G cell repeater.
Overnight parking would be a big plus, as well.
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« Reply #23 on: September 08, 2017, 04:40:26 PM »
Our MH is 43 feet long - 63 feet when towing, and I've never had much luck with the Gas Buddy app helping me find a fueling location in which I can easily maneuver. I've played with the settings and have concluded that the app's filters weren't designed for that.

Instead, I bought an app called Truck & Travel, that maps truck stops, and truck stop related businesses. It has data for all the different truck stops you always see while traveling. Since I much prefer to refuel at truck stops, it's proven to be a much more useful app for our needs.

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« Reply #24 on: September 08, 2017, 04:58:08 PM »
Thanks for the early feedback.

Stephen S, point 1 and point 3 raise good points, however, I think they would be too challenging to communicate as an amenity. I think it would be great information to leave in a review though. Perhaps we could somehow highlight or identify which reviews are relating to RV's so that you could easily reference the specific details of the station. Thoughts? Is this information you reference somewhere already?
Regarding 2 and 4, see below.

LarsMac, I'm trying to define an amenity from your comments. I'm still a little fuzzy on the size because we have to communicate a bunch of variable information in a single category. Would something like this work?


"Size" - Amenity
RV 30 (Medium) - good for 30 foot rigs w/ toad
RV 40(Large) - good for 40 foot rigs w/ toad

Any suggestions on how we could communicate the height, width, and pumps better?

Additional Amenities:
Potable Water
Waste Dumping
Overnight Parking
Pet Walking Area
High-Pressure Air Supply
Wifi



Thanks Kev. I'll take a look!

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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #25 on: September 08, 2017, 09:54:49 PM »
I would find it particularly helpful  to know the orientation of the pumps relative to the store. Stations with the pump islands parallel to the store are much easier for RVs than those that are perpendicular to the store.  The worst are the statiions with the islands arranged in a fan pattern like many Sheetz and Circle K/Kangaroo here in the southeast.
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« Reply #26 on: September 08, 2017, 11:27:33 PM »
I also use Next Exit book.
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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #27 on: September 09, 2017, 06:32:13 AM »
Hi Everyone,

I work for GasBuddy, and I would love to enhance the experience for RV'ers using our app and website. We're considering adding amenities to help RVers find what they are looking for. I think kdbgoat nailed it on the head when he said we need a definition of what RV friendly means. It seems that everyone has their own definition as well as their own requirements.

What I'm asking for is a conversation where we try to build a consensus on what would be most helpful for RVer's in the app, specifically regarding Amenities. I think the important one to nail down is what "RV Friendly" means, regarding canopy size and turning radius. Secondary would be other amenities that you would find helpful, Overnight Parking, Waste Dumps, etc.

If you have any other requests or suggestions for features that you would like to see in the app, feel free to post it here or email me at aburant@gasbuddy.com.

Thanks,
Andrew!

Feel free to delete this post if it's against forum rules. I read through them and I didn't think it broke any of them.  I'm just looking to help develop a feature that helps the RV community!

those of us who drive gas powered RVs are always at a disadvantage as truckstops have diesel pumps available for diesel RVs but most have gas pumps only suitable to cars. Throw in a gas powered RV with TOAD...so any delineation would be helpful
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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #28 on: September 09, 2017, 08:04:15 AM »
A couple more suggestion. When viewing the map, it would be good if we could turn on Satellite View to see the layout of stations. Also it would be helpful to know if a station has truck lanes. I travel mostly old u.s. highways and like using stations the have truck lanes.
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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #29 on: September 09, 2017, 09:44:50 AM »
Thanks again for the feedback.

ChasA, I love the idea of a satellite option on the map. I think it would help RVers immensely.

decaturbob, a great point as well. We'll keep Gasoline in mind when trying to enhance the functionality. My previous suggestion to identify the parameters of the fuelling lane was RV 40(Large) - good for 40 foot rigs w/ toad. Would appending a "G" onto the amenity help convey that the fuelling lane has Gasoline? So RV 40 + G - good for 40 foot rigs w/ toad ?

I'm just throwing out ideas. Let me know if you have something more clever.

RVRAC, I will take a look at that app as well. Any specific functionality that you find valuable?

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« Reply #30 on: September 09, 2017, 11:22:08 AM »
If Gas Buddy can put an RV Friendly tab in, that would be great.  Use it all the time for my autos.  I also have the Pilot and Flying J ap, and find that Flying J is the best for filling my gasser with toad - total 54 feet.  Some have the ability to pump gas from either side of the coach.  So, mrb05, suggest you visit a Flying J.  If you want to see what doesn't work, visit a Pilot.  For the most part, am able to drive in, but the way they allow cars to park in front of the store in front of the pumps, there is no way to get out unless no one is parked in front of you.  Even then, it is tight to make the turn.  My observation is that if you drive a pusher, go to a truck stop.  No trouble getting through the diesel islands.  Just don't dawdle and annoy the truckers.
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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #31 on: September 09, 2017, 05:24:15 PM »
Andrew... first, I think it's very neat that you're contacting us and soliciting our input. Here are my thoughts on what would be helpful to us. We're usually towing our Jeep and we have an overall length of 63 feet. When we need fuel (in our case diesel) my primary concerns are:

1. Is there a fueling station that's "reasonably" close to the freeway (Perhaps within a few blocks) so I wouldn't have to drive through narrow, twisty streets to get there, only to find that I can't fit.

2. Once I get there, can I get in and out of the pumps without having to do a multi-point turn, or back up. We can't back up more than a couple feet when we're towing the Jeep. Its front wheels fully deflect to one side or the other when we do (I've tried.) The only option is to disconnect, but that's not very practical. It takes a few minutes, and would cause a LOT of congestion and pissed off drivers.

3. We're 13 feet high when aired up and going down the road. I'd like a canopy to be no lower than say, 15 feet. But I'll bet there are others who would like them even higher.

For me, things like dump stations, stores, bathrooms etc, fall under the "nice to know" category. (Others may feel differently.) Getting fuel without doing damage to my coach, and with as few headaches as possible is far more important to me than knowing whether or not the station has any of those other things. Once I get fuel, I'll find a way to get those other things, if I need them. JMO

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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #32 on: September 09, 2017, 06:26:27 PM »
A lot of you guys with pushers are making good suggestions, but there are a lot of places that sell diesel that can handle big rigs. I understand part of the trucker thing, but those fuel lanes don't say commercial trucks only. Yes, give the courtesy you would expect to receive, but you don't have to kiss their butts either. From my experiences, finding gasoline pumps that are accessable to larger motorhomes, and pickups pulling large trailers is more of a challenge.
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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #33 on: September 09, 2017, 10:24:13 PM »
Check iexit.  Great app for your phone telling you what is at the exit.
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« Reply #34 on: September 10, 2017, 08:31:27 AM »
I unfortunately just deleted my Gas Buddy app. I recently tried to use it and it would only show me 3 stations, and I couldn't search out places a long distance away. Unless my app was just out of date, I didn't find it useful.
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« Reply #35 on: September 11, 2017, 12:22:01 PM »
If one needs an app or web page to determine if the station is RV friendly or not you shouldn't be operating an RV. If you do need it don't leave the country. Alaska is a long way to go on one tank of gas.
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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #36 on: September 11, 2017, 02:36:37 PM »
If one needs an app or web page to determine if the station is RV friendly or not you shouldn't be operating an RV. If you do need it don't leave the country. Alaska is a long way to go on one tank of gas.

Obviously you've never attempted to determine whether you should "get off at this exit to use a station I can't see from here," a station that might be 2-3 miles away. Should I waste the time, trouble and miles?
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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #37 on: September 11, 2017, 04:01:28 PM »
If one needs an app or web page to determine if the station is RV friendly or not you shouldn't be operating an RV. If you do need it don't leave the country. Alaska is a long way to go on one tank of gas.

The more information you have while planning your trip, the less trouble you may find yourself in down the road. 
 I've watched more than one RV'r have to unhitch a toad to get out of a gas station after filling
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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #38 on: September 11, 2017, 06:26:16 PM »
Obviously you've never attempted to determine whether you should "get off at this exit to use a station I can't see from here," a station that might be 2-3 miles away. Should I waste the time, trouble and miles?

Yup! Do I get off at this exit, or the next? Left or right at the top of the ramp?

Around here there are a lot of trees in the way. And the stations can be a quarter mile off the highway.
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« Reply #39 on: September 14, 2017, 02:46:09 PM »
Disappointed in the negative comment from Butch.  First one I've seen on this forum.
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« Reply #40 on: September 14, 2017, 03:36:44 PM »
Believe me Butch, you look at things in a whole new way when you're driving a rig that can't be backed up more than a couple of feet when towing, it won't fit under most gas station canopies and it won't turn sharp enough to maneuver effectively in a typical size gas station - especially when other vehicles are present.

I also think you're confusing "need" with nice to have. Sure, I could roll the dice, exit the freeway and drive around looking for a suitable fueling station, but knowing where that station is ahead of time, and knowing that I can actually get in, get to the pumps and get out without a lot of headaches is infinitely preferable to driving around, looking for one in a place I'm not familiar with. If a $3.00 app will eliminate those headaches, sign me up!

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« Reply #41 on: September 14, 2017, 03:58:51 PM »
You have a good point there Kevin. You're 43' without the toad, and he's 45' total with a hinge in the middle.
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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #42 on: September 17, 2017, 03:04:19 AM »
Right on Kevin, 10 bucks even and I'm in.
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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #43 on: September 17, 2017, 10:14:51 AM »
Disappointed in the negative comment from Butch.  First one I've seen on this forum.

Go easy on him. He's kinda new.
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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #44 on: September 17, 2017, 01:54:04 PM »
Thanks again for the feedback everyone. I am still trying to think of a good way to present this highly variable information in the app. I'll follow up after I have discussed with the team.

Thanks again!

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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #45 on: September 17, 2017, 04:12:45 PM »
"Disappointed in the negative comment from Butch.  First one I've seen on this forum."

"Go easy on him. He's kinda new."

Trust me, that was "easy" for me.  The RV Forum has great value for all of us, and I don't like to see new people stifled because of fear of negative comments.



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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #46 on: September 17, 2017, 04:47:39 PM »
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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #47 on: September 17, 2017, 05:57:17 PM »
Thanks again for the feedback everyone. I am still trying to think of a good way to present this highly variable information in the app. I'll follow up after I have discussed with the team.

Thanks again!


thanks to you and your team in reaching out to look at  something those of us who have gas-powered rigs need very badly.  You have me editing a copy of your goggle map as I come across RV friendly stations.
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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #48 on: September 18, 2017, 07:34:13 PM »
Negative? First time I've ever been called negative on any forum for stating my opinion. Drove truck for many years and never needed an app to tell me what I can or can't enter. I stand by me comment. Don't like it? Call a counsellor.
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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #49 on: September 18, 2017, 07:47:57 PM »
Easy folks. Just a friendly discussion here.
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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #50 on: September 18, 2017, 08:36:16 PM »
Negative? First time I've ever been called negative on any forum for stating my opinion. Drove truck for many years and never needed an app to tell me what I can or can't enter. I stand by me comment. Don't like it? Call a counsellor.

I drove a truck for quite a while, too. I sure wish I'd had some those apps my son is using these days. 

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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #51 on: September 18, 2017, 08:46:19 PM »
I'm wondering what the criteria is for an RV friendly gas station?
I am wondering what the criteria is for an RV? A VW van and a 45 DP with toad are both RVs. In all my years of full timing I never had a problem finding an RV friendly gas station but then again I never had a toad. I would mainly use Loves, Flying Js or any other truck stop located close to a freeway off ramp.
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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #52 on: September 19, 2017, 12:07:03 AM »
What did we do when there wasn't an app for that? Looks like a solution looking for a problem to me. I don't think Butch meant to hurt feelings. I am 44 feet with a toad so not real big. I don't remember ever having an issue. Look before you pull in, you should know if you don't fit before you commit.

I wonder, how does an app make money?  Merchants pay to be listed? They sell user data? I dunno. I have an I phone with some apps, I will skip this one. My GPS and Google tell me where fuel is as well as those big 50 foot high signs.

I don't mean to hurt feelings but you should be able to have an opposing view. Most people don't need social media to know how to get fuel.

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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #53 on: September 19, 2017, 06:20:55 AM »
It's amazing. Somebody is trying to help RV'ers out and it ends up a bickering contest, and a "don't need no stinking app conversation".
It will be a lot easier for Andrew if one just stated, "I don't need an app for that" and let it go, or offered up sensible suggestions. I'm certainly not a computer programmer or app developer, but I can bet developing even a basic app to bring up RV friendly stations is no small task.
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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #54 on: September 19, 2017, 02:47:48 PM »
It's amazing. Somebody is trying to help RV'ers out and it ends up a bickering contest, and a "don't need no stinking app conversation".
It will be a lot easier for Andrew if one just stated, "I don't need an app for that" and let it go, or offered up sensible suggestions. I'm certainly not a computer programmer or app developer, but I can bet developing even a basic app to bring up RV friendly stations is no small task.

I have no doubt that I can get around and find a place to fuel, and whatever without another App. But, I have been running a highway, and hopped off the thing to find fuel, only to realize none of the stations at that exit really fit the bill., so turn around, get back on the highway, and go check the next exit. Or wander the back roads, looking for something compatible.

It would be handy to have the copilot pull up an app, and see what the options are at the next few exits, and know where you are going before you get there. I don't have to use it all the time. Often it is fun to just wander about until you find what you're looking for. Some of our best experiences have been that type.

But, it's like maps. I don't always need them, but they can be pretty handy at times.



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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #55 on: September 22, 2017, 03:27:02 PM »
Additional Amenities:
Potable Water
Waste Dumping
Overnight Parking
Pet Walking Area
High-Pressure Air Supply
Wifi

I honestly don't care about any of that when I'm needing diesel.  I just want a station where I can fit and maneuver and won't have to back up, since I tow four-down and can't back up.  I know I'll be able to do it at truck stops, but in some areas I have to use regular gas station (and gas RVs can't use truck pumps).

I also know it's extremely unlikely that I'll have room at a regular gas station to park and walk my dog or use their internet, plus there are other sites that have that sort of information. 

I looked at the gasbuddy RV-friendly site and the comments that people put there are helpful, but only kind of. 

I looked at one that said, "Very clean little store with great access for RV's."  Here's the street view of that location:

]https://www.google.ca/maps/place/15411+TX-29,+Buchanan+Dam,+TX+78609,+USA/@30.7335146,-98.4616998,3a,75y,346.19h,101.24t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5_9ent-XFfvh_K13njzsUQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x865af8c00387e2bf:0xbf67e13a477956a8!8m2!3d30.7338374!4d-98.4617371[url]

There is one set of pumps in front of the store.  They are parallel to the store, which is good, but with only one set of pumps, you have to be on a particular side to match your fuel filler and a rig 60+ feet long will be taking up a lot of space there.  I would mark that as "do-able" for me--definitely not "great."

Another one said, "Easy in and out for big rig RVs"  Here's a satellite view of that location:

https://www.google.ca/maps/place/1401+Coors+Blvd+NW,+Albuquerque,+NM+87121,+USA/@35.1000405,-106.7081539,113m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x872272b1037f8295:0x8c70a1509bf41372!8m2!3d35.0999898!4d-106.7081664

Maybe I'm a weenie, but I wouldn't try that in my RV unless it was the middle of the night, and even then, only if I had to.

I think this will be an issue with any site that relies on what people say about a location.  But I would use the site to get leads on places that might be big-rig friendly that I can research further.  I would never just use the app to tell me where to go, even with people's comments, like I might in a car.

But I still see a problem for gas coaches, who can't use diesel/truck pumps.  Maybe force users to say whether their comments are for diesel pumps only?  I think a station with a separate island away from the building with truck pumps is ideal, but that doesn't do any good for gas RVs.






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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #56 on: September 22, 2017, 03:56:57 PM »
I honestly don't care about any of that when I'm needing diesel.  I just want a station where I can fit and maneuver and won't have to back up, since I tow four-down and can't back up.  I know I'll be able to do it at truck stops, but in some areas I have to use regular gas station (and gas RVs can't use truck pumps).

I also know it's extremely unlikely that I'll have room at a regular gas station to park and walk my dog or use their internet, plus there are other sites that have that sort of information. 

I looked at the gasbuddy RV-friendly site and the comments that people put there are helpful, but only kind of. 

I looked at one that said, "Very clean little store with great access for RV's."  Here's the street view of that location:

https://www.google.ca/maps/place/15411+TX-29,+Buchanan+Dam,+TX+78609,+USA/@30.7335146,-98.4616998,3a,75y,346.19h,101.24t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5_9ent-XFfvh_K13njzsUQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x865af8c00387e2bf:0xbf67e13a477956a8!8m2!3d30.7338374!4d-98.4617371[url]]]https://www.google.ca/maps/place/15411+TX-29,+Buchanan+Dam,+TX+78609,+USA/@30.7335146,-98.4616998,3a,75y,346.19h,101.24t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5_9ent-XFfvh_K13njzsUQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x865af8c00387e2bf:0xbf67e13a477956a8!8m2!3d30.7338374!4d-98.4617371[url]

There is one set of pumps in front of the store.  They are parallel to the store, which is good, but with only one set of pumps, you have to be on a particular side to match your fuel filler and a rig 60+ feet long will be taking up a lot of space there.  I would mark that as "do-able" for me--definitely not "great."

Another one said, "Easy in and out for big rig RVs"  Here's a satellite view of that location:

https://www.google.ca/maps/place/1401+Coors+Blvd+NW,+Albuquerque,+NM+87121,+USA/@35.1000405,-106.7081539,113m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x872272b1037f8295:0x8c70a1509bf41372!8m2!3d35.0999898!4d-106.7081664

Maybe I'm a weenie, but I wouldn't try that in my RV unless it was the middle of the night, and even then, only if I had to.

I think this will be an issue with any site that relies on what people say about a location.  But I would use the site to get leads on places that might be big-rig friendly that I can research further.  I would never just use the app to tell me where to go, even with people's comments, like I might in a car.

But I still see a problem for gas coaches, who can't use diesel/truck pumps.  Maybe force users to say whether their comments are for diesel pumps only?  I think a station with a separate island away from the building with truck pumps is ideal, but that doesn't do any good for gas RVs.


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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #57 on: September 22, 2017, 04:47:57 PM »
User reviews are often, at best, unreliable.
There needs to be some sort of accountable review system.

Oh, I definitely agree that user comments are unreliable--shoot, people can't even get the gas prices right on gasbuddy, and all they have to do is input some numbers.  Judgment calls in 20 words or less?  I don't have high expectations.

But I don't think an accountable review system is in the cards for a free site like gasbuddy, and that's fine with me.  I'll be happy to use it just to find out possible stations to narrow the field, because it's really time- and data-consuming to scroll through gasbuddy prices and matching those places to satellite views, not to mention trying to figure out if the Valero in gasbuddy is actually the Exxon in the (possibly older) street view, or if the truck stop known as Fuzzy's is the same as the Texaco station in gasbuddy. 

Maybe what gasbuddy needs is to call these stations "RV accessible," if the focus is on physically getting in and out of them.  I already noticed some locations where the people commented on the food, or that it has a dump station, but didn't give any indication that the station itself is big enough to handle big RVs, and almost nobody specifies which kind of fuel they were getting.

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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #58 on: September 22, 2017, 05:11:10 PM »
I would love to know it the station has "truck" lanes for their diesel.  The "Next Exit" book would list stations as RV friendly but that meant diesel.  It was no use for gas RV.  I like to use "gas" stations for diesel so I do not have to prepay and fight the truck traffic.  Most truck access lanes will beat you up.
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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #59 on: September 23, 2017, 07:19:16 AM »
... Most truck access lanes will beat you up.

Please tell me what you mean by this. Our RV is still a couple of months in the future, so I have no recent experience fueling in diesel lanes. Years ago, I pulled horses with a diesel pickup and regularly used diesel fuel lanes without difficulty.
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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #60 on: September 23, 2017, 11:46:59 AM »
Hi Everyone,

I work for GasBuddy, and I would love to enhance the experience for RV'ers using our app and website. We're considering adding amenities to help RVers find what they are looking for. I think kdbgoat nailed it on the head when he said we need a definition of what RV friendly means. It seems that everyone has their own definition as well as their own requirements....
Thanks for taking up our cause(s)! I've been a Gas Buddy user for years now and appreciate the information. I know how to program drop-downs for variables, but NOTHING about programming phone apps.
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