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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #30 on: September 09, 2017, 11:22:08 AM »
If Gas Buddy can put an RV Friendly tab in, that would be great.  Use it all the time for my autos.  I also have the Pilot and Flying J ap, and find that Flying J is the best for filling my gasser with toad - total 54 feet.  Some have the ability to pump gas from either side of the coach.  So, mrb05, suggest you visit a Flying J.  If you want to see what doesn't work, visit a Pilot.  For the most part, am able to drive in, but the way they allow cars to park in front of the store in front of the pumps, there is no way to get out unless no one is parked in front of you.  Even then, it is tight to make the turn.  My observation is that if you drive a pusher, go to a truck stop.  No trouble getting through the diesel islands.  Just don't dawdle and annoy the truckers.
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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #31 on: September 09, 2017, 05:24:15 PM »
Andrew... first, I think it's very neat that you're contacting us and soliciting our input. Here are my thoughts on what would be helpful to us. We're usually towing our Jeep and we have an overall length of 63 feet. When we need fuel (in our case diesel) my primary concerns are:

1. Is there a fueling station that's "reasonably" close to the freeway (Perhaps within a few blocks) so I wouldn't have to drive through narrow, twisty streets to get there, only to find that I can't fit.

2. Once I get there, can I get in and out of the pumps without having to do a multi-point turn, or back up. We can't back up more than a couple feet when we're towing the Jeep. Its front wheels fully deflect to one side or the other when we do (I've tried.) The only option is to disconnect, but that's not very practical. It takes a few minutes, and would cause a LOT of congestion and pissed off drivers.

3. We're 13 feet high when aired up and going down the road. I'd like a canopy to be no lower than say, 15 feet. But I'll bet there are others who would like them even higher.

For me, things like dump stations, stores, bathrooms etc, fall under the "nice to know" category. (Others may feel differently.) Getting fuel without doing damage to my coach, and with as few headaches as possible is far more important to me than knowing whether or not the station has any of those other things. Once I get fuel, I'll find a way to get those other things, if I need them. JMO

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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #32 on: September 09, 2017, 06:26:27 PM »
A lot of you guys with pushers are making good suggestions, but there are a lot of places that sell diesel that can handle big rigs. I understand part of the trucker thing, but those fuel lanes don't say commercial trucks only. Yes, give the courtesy you would expect to receive, but you don't have to kiss their butts either. From my experiences, finding gasoline pumps that are accessable to larger motorhomes, and pickups pulling large trailers is more of a challenge.
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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #33 on: September 09, 2017, 10:24:13 PM »
Check iexit.  Great app for your phone telling you what is at the exit.
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« Reply #34 on: September 10, 2017, 08:31:27 AM »
I unfortunately just deleted my Gas Buddy app. I recently tried to use it and it would only show me 3 stations, and I couldn't search out places a long distance away. Unless my app was just out of date, I didn't find it useful.
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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #35 on: September 11, 2017, 12:22:01 PM »
If one needs an app or web page to determine if the station is RV friendly or not you shouldn't be operating an RV. If you do need it don't leave the country. Alaska is a long way to go on one tank of gas.
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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #36 on: September 11, 2017, 02:36:37 PM »
If one needs an app or web page to determine if the station is RV friendly or not you shouldn't be operating an RV. If you do need it don't leave the country. Alaska is a long way to go on one tank of gas.

Obviously you've never attempted to determine whether you should "get off at this exit to use a station I can't see from here," a station that might be 2-3 miles away. Should I waste the time, trouble and miles?
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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #37 on: September 11, 2017, 04:01:28 PM »
If one needs an app or web page to determine if the station is RV friendly or not you shouldn't be operating an RV. If you do need it don't leave the country. Alaska is a long way to go on one tank of gas.

The more information you have while planning your trip, the less trouble you may find yourself in down the road. 
 I've watched more than one RV'r have to unhitch a toad to get out of a gas station after filling
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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #38 on: September 11, 2017, 06:26:16 PM »
Obviously you've never attempted to determine whether you should "get off at this exit to use a station I can't see from here," a station that might be 2-3 miles away. Should I waste the time, trouble and miles?

Yup! Do I get off at this exit, or the next? Left or right at the top of the ramp?

Around here there are a lot of trees in the way. And the stations can be a quarter mile off the highway.
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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #39 on: September 14, 2017, 02:46:09 PM »
Disappointed in the negative comment from Butch.  First one I've seen on this forum.
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« Reply #40 on: September 14, 2017, 03:36:44 PM »
Believe me Butch, you look at things in a whole new way when you're driving a rig that can't be backed up more than a couple of feet when towing, it won't fit under most gas station canopies and it won't turn sharp enough to maneuver effectively in a typical size gas station - especially when other vehicles are present.

I also think you're confusing "need" with nice to have. Sure, I could roll the dice, exit the freeway and drive around looking for a suitable fueling station, but knowing where that station is ahead of time, and knowing that I can actually get in, get to the pumps and get out without a lot of headaches is infinitely preferable to driving around, looking for one in a place I'm not familiar with. If a $3.00 app will eliminate those headaches, sign me up!

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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #41 on: September 14, 2017, 03:58:51 PM »
You have a good point there Kevin. You're 43' without the toad, and he's 45' total with a hinge in the middle.
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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #42 on: September 17, 2017, 03:04:19 AM »
Right on Kevin, 10 bucks even and I'm in.
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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #43 on: September 17, 2017, 10:14:51 AM »
Disappointed in the negative comment from Butch.  First one I've seen on this forum.

Go easy on him. He's kinda new.
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« Reply #44 on: September 17, 2017, 01:54:04 PM »
Thanks again for the feedback everyone. I am still trying to think of a good way to present this highly variable information in the app. I'll follow up after I have discussed with the team.

Thanks again!

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« Reply #45 on: September 17, 2017, 04:12:45 PM »
"Disappointed in the negative comment from Butch.  First one I've seen on this forum."

"Go easy on him. He's kinda new."

Trust me, that was "easy" for me.  The RV Forum has great value for all of us, and I don't like to see new people stifled because of fear of negative comments.



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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #46 on: September 17, 2017, 04:47:39 PM »
mrb05,
Thank you for asking for our input.
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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #47 on: September 17, 2017, 05:57:17 PM »
Thanks again for the feedback everyone. I am still trying to think of a good way to present this highly variable information in the app. I'll follow up after I have discussed with the team.

Thanks again!


thanks to you and your team in reaching out to look at  something those of us who have gas-powered rigs need very badly.  You have me editing a copy of your goggle map as I come across RV friendly stations.
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« Reply #48 on: September 18, 2017, 07:34:13 PM »
Negative? First time I've ever been called negative on any forum for stating my opinion. Drove truck for many years and never needed an app to tell me what I can or can't enter. I stand by me comment. Don't like it? Call a counsellor.
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« Reply #49 on: September 18, 2017, 07:47:57 PM »
Easy folks. Just a friendly discussion here.
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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #50 on: September 18, 2017, 08:36:16 PM »
Negative? First time I've ever been called negative on any forum for stating my opinion. Drove truck for many years and never needed an app to tell me what I can or can't enter. I stand by me comment. Don't like it? Call a counsellor.

I drove a truck for quite a while, too. I sure wish I'd had some those apps my son is using these days. 

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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #51 on: September 18, 2017, 08:46:19 PM »
I'm wondering what the criteria is for an RV friendly gas station?
I am wondering what the criteria is for an RV? A VW van and a 45 DP with toad are both RVs. In all my years of full timing I never had a problem finding an RV friendly gas station but then again I never had a toad. I would mainly use Loves, Flying Js or any other truck stop located close to a freeway off ramp.
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« Reply #52 on: September 19, 2017, 12:07:03 AM »
What did we do when there wasn't an app for that? Looks like a solution looking for a problem to me. I don't think Butch meant to hurt feelings. I am 44 feet with a toad so not real big. I don't remember ever having an issue. Look before you pull in, you should know if you don't fit before you commit.

I wonder, how does an app make money?  Merchants pay to be listed? They sell user data? I dunno. I have an I phone with some apps, I will skip this one. My GPS and Google tell me where fuel is as well as those big 50 foot high signs.

I don't mean to hurt feelings but you should be able to have an opposing view. Most people don't need social media to know how to get fuel.

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« Reply #53 on: September 19, 2017, 06:20:55 AM »
It's amazing. Somebody is trying to help RV'ers out and it ends up a bickering contest, and a "don't need no stinking app conversation".
It will be a lot easier for Andrew if one just stated, "I don't need an app for that" and let it go, or offered up sensible suggestions. I'm certainly not a computer programmer or app developer, but I can bet developing even a basic app to bring up RV friendly stations is no small task.
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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #54 on: September 19, 2017, 02:47:48 PM »
It's amazing. Somebody is trying to help RV'ers out and it ends up a bickering contest, and a "don't need no stinking app conversation".
It will be a lot easier for Andrew if one just stated, "I don't need an app for that" and let it go, or offered up sensible suggestions. I'm certainly not a computer programmer or app developer, but I can bet developing even a basic app to bring up RV friendly stations is no small task.

I have no doubt that I can get around and find a place to fuel, and whatever without another App. But, I have been running a highway, and hopped off the thing to find fuel, only to realize none of the stations at that exit really fit the bill., so turn around, get back on the highway, and go check the next exit. Or wander the back roads, looking for something compatible.

It would be handy to have the copilot pull up an app, and see what the options are at the next few exits, and know where you are going before you get there. I don't have to use it all the time. Often it is fun to just wander about until you find what you're looking for. Some of our best experiences have been that type.

But, it's like maps. I don't always need them, but they can be pretty handy at times.



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« Reply #55 on: September 22, 2017, 03:27:02 PM »
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I honestly don't care about any of that when I'm needing diesel.  I just want a station where I can fit and maneuver and won't have to back up, since I tow four-down and can't back up.  I know I'll be able to do it at truck stops, but in some areas I have to use regular gas station (and gas RVs can't use truck pumps).

I also know it's extremely unlikely that I'll have room at a regular gas station to park and walk my dog or use their internet, plus there are other sites that have that sort of information. 

I looked at the gasbuddy RV-friendly site and the comments that people put there are helpful, but only kind of. 

I looked at one that said, "Very clean little store with great access for RV's."  Here's the street view of that location:

]https://www.google.ca/maps/place/15411+TX-29,+Buchanan+Dam,+TX+78609,+USA/@30.7335146,-98.4616998,3a,75y,346.19h,101.24t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5_9ent-XFfvh_K13njzsUQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x865af8c00387e2bf:0xbf67e13a477956a8!8m2!3d30.7338374!4d-98.4617371[url]

There is one set of pumps in front of the store.  They are parallel to the store, which is good, but with only one set of pumps, you have to be on a particular side to match your fuel filler and a rig 60+ feet long will be taking up a lot of space there.  I would mark that as "do-able" for me--definitely not "great."

Another one said, "Easy in and out for big rig RVs"  Here's a satellite view of that location:

https://www.google.ca/maps/place/1401+Coors+Blvd+NW,+Albuquerque,+NM+87121,+USA/@35.1000405,-106.7081539,113m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x872272b1037f8295:0x8c70a1509bf41372!8m2!3d35.0999898!4d-106.7081664

Maybe I'm a weenie, but I wouldn't try that in my RV unless it was the middle of the night, and even then, only if I had to.

I think this will be an issue with any site that relies on what people say about a location.  But I would use the site to get leads on places that might be big-rig friendly that I can research further.  I would never just use the app to tell me where to go, even with people's comments, like I might in a car.

But I still see a problem for gas coaches, who can't use diesel/truck pumps.  Maybe force users to say whether their comments are for diesel pumps only?  I think a station with a separate island away from the building with truck pumps is ideal, but that doesn't do any good for gas RVs.






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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #56 on: September 22, 2017, 03:56:57 PM »
I honestly don't care about any of that when I'm needing diesel.  I just want a station where I can fit and maneuver and won't have to back up, since I tow four-down and can't back up.  I know I'll be able to do it at truck stops, but in some areas I have to use regular gas station (and gas RVs can't use truck pumps).

I also know it's extremely unlikely that I'll have room at a regular gas station to park and walk my dog or use their internet, plus there are other sites that have that sort of information. 

I looked at the gasbuddy RV-friendly site and the comments that people put there are helpful, but only kind of. 

I looked at one that said, "Very clean little store with great access for RV's."  Here's the street view of that location:

https://www.google.ca/maps/place/15411+TX-29,+Buchanan+Dam,+TX+78609,+USA/@30.7335146,-98.4616998,3a,75y,346.19h,101.24t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5_9ent-XFfvh_K13njzsUQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x865af8c00387e2bf:0xbf67e13a477956a8!8m2!3d30.7338374!4d-98.4617371[url]]]https://www.google.ca/maps/place/15411+TX-29,+Buchanan+Dam,+TX+78609,+USA/@30.7335146,-98.4616998,3a,75y,346.19h,101.24t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5_9ent-XFfvh_K13njzsUQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x865af8c00387e2bf:0xbf67e13a477956a8!8m2!3d30.7338374!4d-98.4617371[url]

There is one set of pumps in front of the store.  They are parallel to the store, which is good, but with only one set of pumps, you have to be on a particular side to match your fuel filler and a rig 60+ feet long will be taking up a lot of space there.  I would mark that as "do-able" for me--definitely not "great."

Another one said, "Easy in and out for big rig RVs"  Here's a satellite view of that location:

https://www.google.ca/maps/place/1401+Coors+Blvd+NW,+Albuquerque,+NM+87121,+USA/@35.1000405,-106.7081539,113m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x872272b1037f8295:0x8c70a1509bf41372!8m2!3d35.0999898!4d-106.7081664

Maybe I'm a weenie, but I wouldn't try that in my RV unless it was the middle of the night, and even then, only if I had to.

I think this will be an issue with any site that relies on what people say about a location.  But I would use the site to get leads on places that might be big-rig friendly that I can research further.  I would never just use the app to tell me where to go, even with people's comments, like I might in a car.

But I still see a problem for gas coaches, who can't use diesel/truck pumps.  Maybe force users to say whether their comments are for diesel pumps only?  I think a station with a separate island away from the building with truck pumps is ideal, but that doesn't do any good for gas RVs.


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« Reply #57 on: September 22, 2017, 04:47:57 PM »
User reviews are often, at best, unreliable.
There needs to be some sort of accountable review system.

Oh, I definitely agree that user comments are unreliable--shoot, people can't even get the gas prices right on gasbuddy, and all they have to do is input some numbers.  Judgment calls in 20 words or less?  I don't have high expectations.

But I don't think an accountable review system is in the cards for a free site like gasbuddy, and that's fine with me.  I'll be happy to use it just to find out possible stations to narrow the field, because it's really time- and data-consuming to scroll through gasbuddy prices and matching those places to satellite views, not to mention trying to figure out if the Valero in gasbuddy is actually the Exxon in the (possibly older) street view, or if the truck stop known as Fuzzy's is the same as the Texaco station in gasbuddy. 

Maybe what gasbuddy needs is to call these stations "RV accessible," if the focus is on physically getting in and out of them.  I already noticed some locations where the people commented on the food, or that it has a dump station, but didn't give any indication that the station itself is big enough to handle big RVs, and almost nobody specifies which kind of fuel they were getting.

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« Reply #58 on: September 22, 2017, 05:11:10 PM »
I would love to know it the station has "truck" lanes for their diesel.  The "Next Exit" book would list stations as RV friendly but that meant diesel.  It was no use for gas RV.  I like to use "gas" stations for diesel so I do not have to prepay and fight the truck traffic.  Most truck access lanes will beat you up.
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Re: Gas Buddy RV friendly stations
« Reply #59 on: September 23, 2017, 07:19:16 AM »
... Most truck access lanes will beat you up.

Please tell me what you mean by this. Our RV is still a couple of months in the future, so I have no recent experience fueling in diesel lanes. Years ago, I pulled horses with a diesel pickup and regularly used diesel fuel lanes without difficulty.
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