grashley said:
I know your mind was made before you posted, but allow me to add a few facts.
I did go to the 2017 Ford specs page. The numbers on those GENERIC spec pages fairly well matched your numbers, with one exception. I know you are looking at 2018 models, but for 2017, Ford does not offer an 8 ft box with a crew cab on the F150. (Regular bed is 6.5 ft box, Long bed is 8 ft box, Short bed is 5.5 ft box)
As others have said, ANY ? ton truck pulling a 10,000#, 37 ft TT SAFELY is the definition of oxymoron. That 10,000# TT will be pushing that 7600# truck all over the road, regardless of tires, WD hitch, upgraded shocks or any other upgrade. You would be well within weight limits towing 10,000# of concrete blocks on a flat bed trailer. THAT can be done safely! That 37 ft long by 8 ft tall sail (296 sq. ft.)will catch the wind and push you all over!
Here is the dirty little secret the dealer will not tell you about published weights. The PUBLISHED payload is specific to that cab, box, drivetrain combination, but it does NOT include the added weight of ANY options, which must be deducted pound for pound from the Payload. The Yellow Label on the driver door latch pillar is correct as the vehicle left the factory. By this chart, for a given configuration, the Payload for a bare bones XL and a fully dressed "Texas Cadillac" Platinum trim are the same. BALONEY!!!!
Likewise Max tow is specific to a configuration, BUT it starts with the base weight, plus Max Tow package, plus a full tank of fuel, plus 2 passengers at 150# each. This is subtracted from GCWR, and you have Max Tow!!!! It does NOT include the weight of any options, any additional passengers, no cargo at all, and not even a hitch! That is why it is called MAX tow, not actual tow!
Why a new truck? There are lots of F150 and F250 priced well below this new truck with lots of life left in them. I bought a F350 last year, 3 years old (2013) SuperCab, long box, 4X4 Lariat Diesel A new 2016 just like it had a $66,000 sticker. I paid $42,000, and the truck only had 3660 miles on it!! It even smelled new! I just turned 8100 miles tonight. Great deals are out there, but you must be willing to dig for them!
Your proposed truck will have no problem at all pulling that camper, but can it handle a side wind or a passing truck? Can it control and stop the TT in an emergency? Can it stop the rig if you lose TT brakes? Going down a steep hill? Are you willing to bet your life and the lives of your family it will never be tested?
Actually, my mind was practically made up after I read the specs and rating of this particular truck, and the reason why I posted, was I wanted the input of 1/2 ton TV owners who have experienced the difference with towing a TT with LT tires, and how did those changes effect the towing experience. I already knew from reading over the years the various comments from 3/4 ton truck owners, and what their perspectives were, which didn't convince me that I needed a heavier truck for this weight trailer. Two posters gave good feedback, because I wanted perspectives of how LT tires enhanced their tow.
I've been doing a lot of reading regarding the various configurations and weight of trucks, and the sticker/options/passengers, etc, adding to, and deducting from published weight were known for years before thinking about buying a truck or an RV. My readings were regarding the specifics of the truck that I think will do the job, i.e, axle ratio, auxiliary transmission and radiator cooler, heavy duty spring shocks and hitch capacities, etc.
I think you guys mean well and have good intentions, and believe me, you guys have helped me out a heck of a lot in so many areas, but of all the time I've been lurking on these boards, and reading the advice that was given to others, I don't think you guys actually know what will happen if I towed this rig with this setup. I think you guys got a good grasp of what would happen if someone tries to tow this TT with the popular optioned geared, softly sprung, P rated tired F-150 off the lot... I believe what you would say regarding certain adverse handling problems with that setup. The only off the lot 1/2 truck that has a chance of towing and having a decent enough payload rating with this trailer, is the Tundra DC (9,900 lbs tow/1,680 payload), but the hitch rating is too low.
I don't know whether you guys know about GM and Ford having a 1/2 ton with enhance payload and towing ratings, and added equipment to achieve the higher ratings, or you guys just don't acknowledge them even being any capable than the off the lot popular 1/2 tons with the under 9,000 lbs towing/payload ratings. The truck has a very good rating with both towing capacity, engineered factory upgrades specifically built for towing more than the off the lot models with and a good 2,400 lbs payload. You guys are throwing this truck in that same "6,000 lbs, 30 ft long" pile as the off the lot 1/2 tons, and I believe they enhance this truck for a reason, and I'm convinced my 8,300 lbs dry/10,000 lbs TT fits in that sweet spot of too much for the off the lot 1/2 tons, but not needing the 3/4 tons.
Not trying to offend anyone, but personally, I think you guys are blindly throwing darts against the wall with speculation, and I'm not convinced at all that you guys really know how such a truck equipped from the factory will tow this weight and length TT. I know it will not tow the same as an equal spec F250... and I believe that, but I'm betting it will pull better than a F-250 5.O, and have the stability and breaking a half step behind the F250, but definitely far in towing experience than the off the lot 150s. If it is a bit windy out, I will slow down a bit, but I'm not convinced that passing truckers and a brisk wind will have this setup all over the road.
grashley, I don't want to pay for a used or new 3/4 ton truck, even at the price of a new 1/2 ton, but if I discover that I need an upgrade, I would turn my rig around in mid trip, and park it while I shop for a heavy duty TV. My daily driver is a Honda Accord, and outside of towing this TT, I have never been enthused about driving trucks, so it would get limited use outside of needing it to tow.