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trx680

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FORD TRITON V-10
« on: July 16, 2017, 10:11:45 AM »
I see most of the Class C are on a Ford chassis and have the V10.

For those of you who have the V10 how do you like it?  Reliable?  Any problems?

Whats your input?

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Re: FORD TRITON V-10
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2017, 10:25:45 AM »
possible one of the most reliable, no problem engines ever made.  good for 150k miles as an RV engine.

80% of all gas powered motorhomes use the V10.. expect 8-9 mpg.  the newer V10s have more power and a better transmission.
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Re: FORD TRITON V-10
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2017, 10:28:49 AM »
I have owned 3 different MHs with the V10 (97, 01, 04). The only issue I have had is with the right rear exhaust manifold bolt heads breaking off when exposed to time in service.

trx680

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Re: FORD TRITON V-10
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2017, 10:40:25 AM »
do they use FORD transmissions?

I see a lot of the MH that have the Chevy 8.1 use the Allison transmission

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Re: FORD TRITON V-10
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2017, 11:43:45 AM »
I have one and love it.  I've heard it described as bullet proof.  Perform scheduled maintenance and it's like the Energizer Bunny - it just keeps on going.

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Re: FORD TRITON V-10
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2017, 12:10:02 PM »
I've always been a Chevy guy, but our previous motorhome (a '99 Allegro) was on a Ford chassis with a V-10. That engine never gave us a single problem in the nealy 13 years we had that RV. It was an outstanding engine with plenty of power, and newer versions are even more powerful. I've got nothing but good to say about them.

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Re: FORD TRITON V-10
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2017, 12:11:05 PM »
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do they use FORD transmissions?
The Ford v10 is coupled to a Ford transmission, 4, 5, or 6 speeds depending on the year.

The GM 8.1L V8 is usually coupled to the Allison 1000 in pick-ups or Workhorse motorhome chassis, but in the van chassis used for Class C's I suppose it could be one of the car trannys.

The "bullet-proof" Allisons are the big boy models like the 3000 and 4000 series. Over-designed and over-built to run forever. The smaller 1000/2000 series is a solid performer, but not quite bulletproof.

Actually, modern auto trannys are extremely reliable and very forgiving, so we could probably call any of them near bullet-proof.
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Re: FORD TRITON V-10
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2017, 12:50:35 PM »
I have a 2008 Triton V-10 with 112,000 miles, and I am amazed at how smooth it runs. When in park, I can barely hear it with the hood up and I am standing close by. Once on the highway, unless I step on the gas really hard, I can barely hear the engine. It just purrs and is smooth as silk at all speeds. It is probably the best engine I have ever had.

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Re: FORD TRITON V-10
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2017, 03:36:18 PM »
have another question about the Ford V-10 - we want to tow our Silverado 1500, 4 x 4, would it handle this type of towing? Thank you

trx680

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Re: FORD TRITON V-10
« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2017, 04:56:27 PM »
the V8 Ford pickups at about 10 years or-so-ago had issues with not being able to remove the spark plugs. These V10 have that issue?

TonyDtorch

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Re: FORD TRITON V-10
« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2017, 08:29:52 PM »
that issue was created by ham-fisted mechanics that do not use anti-seize on sparkplugs in aluminum heads.

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Re: FORD TRITON V-10
« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2017, 08:57:57 PM »
have another question about the Ford V-10 - we want to tow our Silverado 1500, 4 x 4, would it handle this type of towing? Thank you
I have not seen a gas motohome which is rated to tow more than 5000 pounds.  Most large diesel pushers will tow 10,000.  There are some diesel pushers with a smaller engine which are not rated to tow 10,000 pounds.

Go online and find the brochure for the motorhome you are looking at or check the sticker in the RV to see the tow rating, as well as the GVWR and GCWR.
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Re: FORD TRITON V-10
« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2017, 09:24:44 PM »
A Silverado 150 4x4 would be too much for a Class C. MHO
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Re: FORD TRITON V-10
« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2017, 09:36:36 PM »
maybe on a gas class C E350/450 chassis,  but not the gas class A F53 chassis.

There is a guy that comes into my RV park here in southern Cal. He drives an early 2000's V10 gas powered Fleetwood class A motorhome, towing a double axle car trailer,  with a full size Chevy pickup on it,  that has a nice 4x4 quad in the bed of the truck.

he comes here every year from Texas to visit relatives the last 3 years.

 So it may not be rated for more than 5k,  but it can do it,  I've scene it done before.

(note* old ranch owner that welded up his own Pendelton hitch set-up,  and did a nice job. )
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Re: FORD TRITON V-10
« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2017, 10:03:08 PM »
have another question about the Ford V-10 - we want to tow our Silverado 1500, 4 x 4, would it handle this type of towing? Thank you

Lookup the tow rating of the coach you're interested in. Its ratings will be online at the mfr's website.

Also, you should consider your braking method; are you going to use an in-cab assist on the truck or load it on a lightweight trailer? I worry more about stopping the load than pulling it. In that case, something lighter would be advantageous, especially in the mountains.

My Four Winds 24F on an E-350 chassis is rated at 8000lbs towing.

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Re: FORD TRITON V-10
« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2017, 06:01:48 AM »
I have not seen a gas motohome which is rated to tow more than 5000 pounds.  Most large diesel pushers will tow 10,000.  There are some diesel pushers with a smaller engine which are not rated to tow 10,000 pounds.

Go online and find the brochure for the motorhome you are looking at or check the sticker in the RV to see the tow rating, as well as the GVWR and GCWR.

My 2016 class C on an F-450 chassis is rated at 7500# towing, not just the hitch, but the chassis also. 14,500 GVWR, 22,000# GCWR.
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Re: FORD TRITON V-10
« Reply #16 on: July 17, 2017, 09:07:00 AM »
maybe on a gas class C E350/450 chassis,  but not the gas class A F53 chassis.

There is a guy that comes into my RV park here in southern Cal. He drives an early 2000's V10 gas powered Fleetwood class A motorhome, towing a double axle car trailer,  with a full size Chevy pickup on it,  that has a nice 4x4 quad in the bed of the truck.

he comes here every year from Texas to visit relatives the last 3 years.

 So it may not be rated for more than 5k,  but it can do it,  I've scene it done before.

(note* old ranch owner that welded up his own Pendelton hitch set-up,  and did a nice job. )

When I go to the race track it amazes me how many of these guys are using gas powered class A to pull their car trailers. Some of the trailers are nearly as long as the MH.  I'm certainly not endorsing this practice, just noting it is done with some regularity
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Re: FORD TRITON V-10
« Reply #17 on: July 17, 2017, 09:41:35 AM »
My 2016 class C on an F-450 chassis is rated at 7500# towing, not just the hitch, but the chassis also. 14,500 GVWR, 22,000# GCWR.
I stand corrected.  Apparently in 2016 Chassis model years and later (not the Motorhome manufacturer model years) the "E"450 now has the 6 speed transmission instead of the 5 speed transmission which has been standard for around 15 years.  The GCWR is now 22,000 pounds, as stated by kdbgoat.

However IF you have an "E"450 with a 5 speed transmission your towing capacity is less than the 7500 pounds, probably 5000 pounds, but I did not try to verify the towing capacity.  Most likely there are quite a few 2016 motorhome model year RV's built on the 2015 model year chassis, which I believe still have the 5 speed transmission and the lower towing capacity.

BTW, kdbgoat you most likely have a "E"450, not a "F"450 chassis. 
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Re: FORD TRITON V-10
« Reply #18 on: July 17, 2017, 09:50:41 AM »
I stand corrected.  Apparently in 2016 Chassis model years and later (not the Motorhome manufacturer model years) the "E"450 now has the 6 speed transmission instead of the 5 speed transmission which has been standard for around 15 years.  The GCWR is now 22,000 pounds, as stated by kdbgoat.

However IF you have an "E"450 with a 5 speed transmission your towing capacity is less than the 7500 pounds, probably 5000 pounds, but I did not try to verify the towing capacity.  Most likely there are quite a few 2016 motorhome model year RV's built on the 2015 model year chassis, which I believe still have the 5 speed transmission and the lower towing capacity.

BTW, kdbgoat you most likely have a "E"450, not a "F"450 chassis. 

Yep, E-450, not F :-[

but, I do have the 5 speed, and my tow capacity is 7500#. I had it and the GCWR verified by Ford, as I don't trust RV salesmen that much on technical matters.
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Re: FORD TRITON V-10
« Reply #19 on: July 17, 2017, 02:00:46 PM »
I have a 2017 Thor 32 foot Class A with the Ford V10 and it is rated to tow 8000 lbs. It has the 6 speed transmission with a tow/haul button and is smarter than I am. My CRV is right around 6500 lbs and it has no problem towing that. Just FYI.
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Re: FORD TRITON V-10
« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2017, 03:36:24 PM »
I have a 2017 Thor 32 foot Class A with the Ford V10 and it is rated to tow 8000 lbs. It has the 6 speed transmission with a tow/haul button and is smarter than I am. My CRV is right around 6500 lbs and it has no problem towing that. Just FYI.

CRV weighing 6500#.  Wow, mine is at 3500#.
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Re: FORD TRITON V-10
« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2017, 03:40:54 PM »
your receiver hitch should have what class it is stamped right on it.

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Re: FORD TRITON V-10
« Reply #22 on: July 17, 2017, 04:20:04 PM »
CRV weighing 6500#.  Wow, mine is at 3500#.
this has to be a mistake...no Honda CRV weighs 6500 pounds,  unless the trunk full of gold bars.
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Re: FORD TRITON V-10
« Reply #23 on: July 17, 2017, 04:41:49 PM »
have another question about the Ford V-10 - we want to tow our Silverado 1500, 4 x 4, would it handle this type of towing? Thank you

My 2007 V-10 pulled our 24' enclosed trailer all over the west. Inside was the wife's Camaro, my Heritage, a spare generator, a small freezer, 3 spare batteries, tools, ladder, 33 gal water barrel (full), 4 five gallon gas cans, and a bunch of other stuff I'm sure I forgot.  :D Don't know what the overall weight was, but, I'm betting it was more than 5000 lbs. 
Oh, a side note. the trip averaged out at 7.4 mpg.
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Re: FORD TRITON V-10
« Reply #24 on: July 18, 2017, 05:42:32 PM »
My 2007 V-10 pulled our 24' enclosed trailer all over the west. Inside was the wife's Camaro, my Heritage, a spare generator, a small freezer, 3 spare batteries, tools, ladder, 33 gal water barrel (full), 4 five gallon gas cans, and a bunch of other stuff I'm sure I forgot.  :D Don't know what the overall weight was, but, I'm betting it was more than 5000 lbs. 
Oh, a side note. the trip averaged out at 7.4 mpg.
Anyone reading the above should keep in mind that the weight of the trailer is way above what the RV is rated to tow.  There are safety issues. 

Also, although I have not heard of a lawsuit being filed against an RV'er involved in an accident while towing a way overweight trailer, that could be an issue if you were to run into someone because you couldn't stop in time.   
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Re: FORD TRITON V-10
« Reply #25 on: July 18, 2017, 06:29:59 PM »
Anyone reading the above should keep in mind that the weight of the trailer is way above what the RV is rated to tow.  There are safety issues. 

Also, although I have not heard of a lawsuit being filed against an RV'er involved in an accident while towing a way overweight trailer, that could be an issue if you were to run into someone because you couldn't stop in time.

I once had to swerve off the road, and down an embankment, to avoid a horse trailer coming straight at me (it broke loose from the towing pickup). It hit a car behind me and caused serious injuries. Sometimes the weight rating for towing is a frame or hitch strength problem (or even braking strength and endurance), rather than any consideration for the engine/transmission. After while things can fatigue...
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Re: FORD TRITON V-10
« Reply #26 on: July 18, 2017, 07:01:01 PM »
 

Also, although I have not heard of a lawsuit being filed against an RV'er involved in an accident while towing a way overweight trailer, that could be an issue if you were to run into someone because you couldn't stop in time.

unless it's a wrong way driver ....If for any reason you can't stop and hit someone in front of you....it is 100% your fault.

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Re: FORD TRITON V-10
« Reply #27 on: July 18, 2017, 07:14:13 PM »
unless it's a wrong way driver ....If for any reason you hit someone in front of you....it is 100% your fault.
I don't think it is case of being At Fault.  It is more a case of being reckless when you know you are way over weight.  Then when it comes to a lawsuit, they could sue for huge damages because you are being careless.  You could possibly have a clause in the insurance policy to void the policy if it is determined you intentionally disregarded common sense and that caused the accident.   
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Re: FORD TRITON V-10
« Reply #28 on: July 18, 2017, 07:18:50 PM »
unless it's a wrong way driver ....If for any reason you hit someone in front of you....it is 100% your fault.
Not always... I was found not at fault when I rear ended a car that spun out into my lane from the lane next to me.
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Re: FORD TRITON V-10
« Reply #29 on: July 18, 2017, 07:29:29 PM »
all prior attempts to legislate 'Common sense' have been overturned by the 9th circuit court of appeals. ( it's a joke  :)

 You are suing the owner of an overloaded RV  and you will likely get the limits of his insurance policy for medical and property damage.
Proving recklessness is difficult and expensive, proving intent is near impossible.. even for the FBI.

  Any personal damage claim and law suit above the insurance value would likely will just keep several attorneys employed for many years, in the event of a judgement and a lien is filed against the old RV drivers estate, then when it's settled the attorney fees, the investigation costs, document fees, court fees will be deducted....then just about the time you've forgotten about it you may get a settlement check of about $486.12 in the mail for your pain and suffering.

our legal system really only benefits itself.
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