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Bill N

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Removal of analog TV in 2002 Adventurer
« on: July 19, 2017, 08:29:34 AM »
I plan on replacing the 25 inch RCA analog TV in my 2002 Adventurer in the near future.  But I need a bit of guidance on how to remove the plastic/fiberglass molding that surrounds the TV on the front.  I cannot seem to find any readily accessible screws or bolts to start the removal process.  Thanks for any tips.

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Re: Removal of analog TV in 2002 Adventurer
« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2017, 08:43:53 AM »
Have you looked at the Sticky at the top of this forum

Survey of CRT to LCD Replacements
http://www.rvforum.net/SMF_forum/index.php/topic,23316.0.html

There are bolts accessable from the side compartments that are the main things holding it
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Re: Removal of analog TV in 2002 Adventurer
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2017, 04:01:30 PM »
Have you looked at the Sticky at the top of this forum

Survey of CRT to LCD Replacements
http://www.rvforum.net/SMF_forum/index.php/topic,23316.0.html

There are bolts accessable from the side compartments that are the main things holding it

Thanks John.  Yes, I did look at the Survey and even erroneously posted to it before realizing it was for completed replacements.  I must have missed the info I was looking for as there are numerous posts.  Thanks for the info on the bolts.

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Re: Removal of analog TV in 2002 Adventurer
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2017, 10:38:54 PM »
I put a 32 inch Samsung on a pivot mount and a Polk 5500 soundbar with subwoofer after removing the boat anchor CRT. Easy install and awesome sound. The soundbar has Bluetooth so my iPod plays through it. I can send you some pics if you want.
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Re: Removal of analog TV in 2002 Adventurer
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2017, 09:31:14 AM »
I put a 32 inch Samsung on a pivot mount and a Polk 5500 soundbar with subwoofer after removing the boat anchor CRT. Easy install and awesome sound. The soundbar has Bluetooth so my iPod plays through it. I can send you some pics if you want.
Thanks so much.  I see you have the same coach so I would welcome photos.  Also any description you may have of removing the CRT, at least the beginning of getting to the monster.  John Hilley mentions removing bolts from inside the side cabinets.  Anything you care to add would be appreciated.  If you need an email I will send it via PM.  Thanks again.

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Re: Removal of analog TV in 2002 Adventurer
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2017, 06:32:47 PM »
After removing that trim piece, I removed the metal U bracket holding the tv down and wrestled the bad boy out. That bracket was re-purposed to mount the Polk soundbar. I mounted this mount, https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00393KNVQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 to the passenger side of the metal enclosure. When I bought the mount in 2015 it was only $25 on Amazon so you should probably look for a similar one that has enough reach to allow you to center the TV. I keep tension on the mount with a bungee cord. The Polk subwoofer sits in the space behind the TV and soundbar. I will try to get some pictures posted in the next few days. I have attached a picture of the finished project.
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Re: Removal of analog TV in 2002 Adventurer
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2017, 09:44:43 AM »
Bill,

Here are two shots of the mount for the tv and soundbar. I added a small cross piece to the metal housing for the TV arm and added two wood shims to the upper and mid swivel bracket mounts to keep level. I used self tapping sheet metal screws in three places. For the soundbar I used the top CRT tv bracket as my mount for the soundbar. I used all thread and bolts welded together to hold the soundbar to the bracket. I had to file/sand down the bolt heads to fit the keyhole slots in the back of the soundbar. I added two pieces of Velcro to the lower back of the TV to grip the RV trim piece. This helps to keep the TV from moving up and down when traveling.
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Re: Removal of analog TV in 2002 Adventurer
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2017, 10:46:26 AM »
I totally removed the metal housing
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Re: Removal of analog TV in 2002 Adventurer
« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2017, 01:48:40 PM »
To poke in here.. What is a good size TV to go with? Bigger the better right? lol
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Re: Removal of analog TV in 2002 Adventurer
« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2017, 02:03:35 PM »
On the two that I have done, 32" worked for the front and 24" for the bedroom
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Re: Removal of analog TV in 2002 Adventurer
« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2017, 02:43:35 PM »
In our motorhome, we have a 39" directly across from the couch. Our slide is a shallow slide, so we are seated fairly close to the TV. For us, 39" is too big. When I'm watching TV, I like to be able to view the whole screen without having to move my head or eyes consciously just to see what's on the screen. We have a 32" on the outside entertainment system. I'm thinking about switching them around.
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Re: Removal of analog TV in 2002 Adventurer
« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2017, 07:27:23 AM »
To poke in here.. What is a good size TV to go with? Bigger the better right? lol
John

Thanks Carl and John for all the info.  I have a new 32" Vizio that will be installed.

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Re: Removal of analog TV in 2002 Adventurer
« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2017, 08:40:48 AM »
Cool, NP Can't wait to see a few pics. I have an 02 also and have yet to pull that thing out. Its on my list every time I sit down in there I'm like "Oh Yea, I wanted to change that"  ::)
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Re: Removal of analog TV in 2002 Adventurer
« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2017, 02:14:48 PM »
Well I finally got around to using the cooler weather to start this project.  I found that there are only four screws (two in each side cabinet) holding the front trim piece on but I was well on my way to removing a lot of unnecessary screws before I noticed the trim piece was loose...lol.  Now I see that the TV is just held down by the cross bar at the top with a bolt on each end.  Looks like I remove that and lift the TV a bit and slide it out.  I also found that I can get a hand in back of the cabinet before removing the TV and that will help unhook the wiring.  I am not sure about the weight so I will wait until my son can help me lift that big old bugger out as I would hate to drop it and ruin the dashboard.

I also removed the entire switchbox (box of many buttons) in order to figure out all the correct connections.  My Dish installer had done a bit of changing those cables around when we hooked up for the Tailgater and removed a nonfunctioning VCR.  It was just easier to take the box out and figure  out the connections without trying to do it all with a mirror in a tight space.  Only have two cables left to figure out and I hope to find out their original when the TV comes out - hopefully one goes to the back TV.  Since I did buy a analog to digital converter a while back and it has never been installed I may either use it on the bedroom TV until I get around to replacing that one.

I really thank you folks for all the help particularly John Hilley, Carl and the person who gave me the three color codes on the cables (on another thread) - that helped immensely.

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Re: Removal of analog TV in 2002 Adventurer
« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2017, 03:30:33 PM »
A couple of things:
-If you haven't bought the TV yet, pay atten in to where the speakers are mounted. Some are downfiring (good), And others are rear firing (bad). If you end up with a rear firing set, be prepared for a sound bar as well.

-Unless on an articulated mount, it's not going to be easy to access the rear of the TV, so bring out everything you think you will ever need. I have 2 HDMI cables, a USB Extension cable, and component analog cables brought out and coiled in the cabinet. Bring AlL the HDMI jacks out since that's now the way the world rolls.. one never knows.

- Also think about extending HDMI to the rear TV. You may not think you need it now, but since you've torn into the rear of that space it might not be a bad time to install an active HDMI splitter and lace the cable out and on its way to the back
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Re: Removal of analog TV in 2002 Adventurer
« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2017, 09:26:51 PM »
A couple of things:
-If you haven't bought the TV yet, pay atten in to where the speakers are mounted. Some are downfiring (good), And others are rear firing (bad). If you end up with a rear firing set, be prepared for a sound bar as well.

-Unless on an articulated mount, it's not going to be easy to access the rear of the TV, so bring out everything you think you will ever need. I have 2 HDMI cables, a USB Extension cable, and component analog cables brought out and coiled in the cabinet. Bring AlL the HDMI jacks out since that's now the way the world rolls.. one never knows.

- Also think about extending HDMI to the rear TV. You may not think you need it now, but since you've torn into the rear of that space it might not be a bad time to install an active HDMI splitter and lace the cable out and on its way to the back

Thanks Jeff.  I  printed your post out for future use.  I bought a 32 inch Vizio TV just before I started this thread so that is what I will use.  It is equipped for a sound bar so I can get sound if the speakers are not in the rear (TV is in coach in storage at present).

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Re: Removal of analog TV in 2002 Adventurer
« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2017, 07:07:32 AM »
I love my Polk 5500 soundbar w/subwooefer. It has Bluetooth so I can play my iPhone or iPod or iPad through it. That thing rocks and makes TV watching feel like you are in the movie theater. Amazing sound  throughout the whole tonal range.
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« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2017, 01:51:31 PM »
I love my Polk 5500 soundbar w/subwooefer. It has Bluetooth so I can play my iPhone or iPod or iPad through it. That thing rocks and makes TV watching feel like you are in the movie theater. Amazing sound  throughout the whole tonal range.

Carl do you or did you have the surround sound? I wondered how it was piped into the TV.
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Re: Removal of analog TV in 2002 Adventurer
« Reply #18 on: September 14, 2017, 02:13:47 PM »
The Polk soundbar has several inputs. Input one is an optical cable from my Samsung TV to the soundbar. The TV remote controls the soundbar volume.
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Re: Removal of analog TV in 2002 Adventurer
« Reply #19 on: September 14, 2017, 04:07:42 PM »
The Polk soundbar has several inputs. Input one is an optical cable from my Samsung TV to the soundbar. The TV remote controls the soundbar volume.

Sorry I ment, I have the surround sound that came with the coach. There are 3 speakers up front 1 in the back by the table and two subs in the wall. I take it you did not have this setup first?
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« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2017, 09:16:50 AM »
Okay, the TV is removed but the story is worth telling.  As I learned from the board, the trim around the analog TV was removed by taking out 4 screws inside the side cabinets.  That exposed the TV which is on a slight downward slant and held in place by a bar across the top with a bolt hold down on each end.  At the bottom there is just a slight lip on the frame to hold the TV in place.  Yesterday I decided it could not be that heavy and since I had no help I decided to give it a try with due caution to prevent damage. I lined the dashboard with heavy blankets and quilts and covered the cabinet over the engine cover with a pillow.  Then I removed the two bolts on the hold down bar and that made it possible to lift the TV slightly and slide it out.  I had already removed all connections on the rear through an access hole over the dashboard.  When I tried to lift the TV I found it to be very heavy and had very little area to get a grip.  In fact I wound up pushing it back on one side to the point where I could not even get a finger beside it.  So I decided to reach inside the rear access hole and slightly push the TV back forward to the lip where I could start trying to lift it again.   I was sitting on the dashboard during this maneuver and with the slightest push the entire TV went swooping forward like a bullet out of a gun and missed me and the engine cover completely landing on it's bottom front edge and rolling over once to stop on it's side.  Nothing was broken, dented nor was I injured but I sure was shocked to see what had happened.  The old money pit lost on this one and I had no damage to be repaired.  Now to get busy on installing the new TV.  Sure is a lot of wires to be removed including a small round noise suppressor mounted behind the TV.  That is my story and I am sticking to it.  Lesson:  If you have to remove a analog TV from an Adventurer - GET HELP.

By the way I forgot to mention that the speakers on the new 32" Vizio are on the bottom so no special mods for sound will be required. The coach already has the optional sound system with 6 speakers throughout the front of the coach.  Now I have to figure out how to cover the entire hole for the new TV mounting.  It appears that while the width is less than the new TV, the height is more than the new unit so covering the entire opening must be accomplished.

Bill
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Re: Removal of analog TV in 2002 Adventurer
« Reply #21 on: September 15, 2017, 05:51:12 PM »
Sorry I ment, I have the surround sound that came with the coach. There are 3 speakers up front 1 in the back by the table and two subs in the wall. I take it you did not have this setup first?
JT

My bad JT. I thought you meant the soundbar. I didn't mess at all with the Winnie sound system and mine only has two speakers in the dash and two over the couch and relciner. The in-dash radio still uses the existing speakers.
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« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2017, 07:37:48 AM »
I'm still in the thinking stage for the completion of the project.  The TV is now out and disposed of.  I have figured out all the connections on the box of many buttons and on our last short trip the cable TV feed worked fine with a temp hookup to the new TV placed on the dashboard and even to the old TV in the bedroom - thanks again to those who told me those color codes on the coax cables.

Question:  There was a noise suppressor on the old TV (externally mounted) and I am wondering if that is something I have to rehook in order to use the speaker selection button (Radio/TV) in the same group with the BOMB and the inverter controls- front right overhead cabinet.

Question:  I have bought a wall mount kit for the TV but in looking at it  out of the box it appears that the TV bars (2) simply hook over the wall mount bar and have a spring loaded hook that comes up to hold the unit onto the wall mounted brace.  BUT this thing appears to be pretty loose when attached together and can even slide in either direction on the wall mounted brace.  Will this take the beating on the road or should I consider installing something like a strip of foam on the back to restrict movement while traveling? 

Also still trying to figure out best way to mount backing board for TV.  Giving consideration to leaving the fiberglass molding on and making board to attach inside of it.  TV is wider than molding but perhaps I can build the wall mount out enough to overcome the additional depth of the molding.  Thanks for any comments.

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Re: Removal of analog TV in 2002 Adventurer
« Reply #23 on: October 18, 2017, 09:57:28 AM »
Bill,

I completely removed the steel cage and it was then easy to fabricate a method to mount TV. Had to make a couple of oak 1 x 2 strips to complete and a panel on the bottom.
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« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2017, 06:50:10 AM »
Bill,

I completely removed the steel cage and it was then easy to fabricate a method to mount TV. Had to make a couple of oak 1 x 2 strips to complete and a panel on the bottom.
I see that the cage is completely removable John but think that it also adds some strength to the mount.  Your method is probably what I will need to go to.  Do you have any photos of the completed installation.  Also did you remove the bottom fiberglass molding for the old TV - the one with the light (and mine also has a speaker in it)? That would really be a radical departure for the mounting. And I would need to fabricate a new bottom that goes from cabinet to cabinet.

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Re: Removal of analog TV in 2002 Adventurer
« Reply #25 on: October 19, 2017, 07:38:47 AM »
...Question:  There was a noise suppressor on the old TV (externally mounted) and I am wondering if that is something I have to rehook in order to use the speaker selection button (Radio/TV) in the same group with the BOMB and the inverter controls- front right overhead cabinet.
Yes, I would use the noise filter (and I think it also prevents ground loops) if you are going to use the Winnie supplied amp.

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Question:  I have bought a wall mount kit for the TV but in looking at it  out of the box it appears that the TV bars (2) simply hook over the wall mount bar and have a spring loaded hook that comes up to hold the unit onto the wall mounted brace.  BUT this thing appears to be pretty loose when attached together and can even slide in either direction on the wall mounted brace.  Will this take the beating on the road or should I consider installing something like a strip of foam on the back to restrict movement while traveling? 
I for one wouldn't like the TV and mount jiggling and rattling around but my objection would be for the noise aspect.
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Re: Removal of analog TV in 2002 Adventurer
« Reply #26 on: October 19, 2017, 10:06:17 AM »
I see that the cage is completely removable John but think that it also adds some strength to the mount.  Your method is probably what I will need to go to.  Do you have any photos of the completed installation.  Also did you remove the bottom fiberglass molding for the old TV - the one with the light (and mine also has a speaker in it)? That would really be a radical departure for the mounting. And I would need to fabricate a new bottom that goes from cabinet to cabinet.

Bill

The removal of the cage doesn't lessen the strength of anything and it removes a lot of weight. I will try to find pictures. My mount was very inexpensive and locks in place. To remove it I have to pull on a release. I also mounted a 120 vac receptacle in the space behind the TV and tied it into the receptacle in the overhead cabinet.
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Re: Removal of analog TV in 2002 Adventurer
« Reply #27 on: October 20, 2017, 07:11:40 AM »
The removal of the cage doesn't lessen the strength of anything and it removes a lot of weight. I will try to find pictures. My mount was very inexpensive and locks in place. To remove it I have to pull on a release. I also mounted a 120 vac receptacle in the space behind the TV and tied it into the receptacle in the overhead cabinet.

I appreciate all the help I am getting on this project.  The forum is a very valuable tool for any project.  John, I received your email with the photos but I get Error 404 on all of the photos when I try to open.  I now think I will remove the cage and go from there.  This will be a winter project.

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« Reply #28 on: October 20, 2017, 09:39:21 AM »
I appreciate all the help I am getting on this project.  The forum is a very valuable tool for any project.    This will be a winter project.

Bill

Sounds like you are way over complicating this project. I didn't have the surround system option on my coach so I didn't feel the need to keep it. My CRT to flat screen conversion was an afternoon project. Good luck and I hope to see some pictures of the finished job.
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Re: Removal of analog TV in 2002 Adventurer
« Reply #29 on: October 20, 2017, 02:15:33 PM »
Sounds like you are way over complicating this project. I didn't have the surround system option on my coach so I didn't feel the need to keep it. My CRT to flat screen conversion was an afternoon project. Good luck and I hope to see some pictures of the finished job.

You are probably right Carl.  But with COPD and bad arthritis I can only work at it a bit at a time plus the coach cannot be parked at the house for an extended period.  But I will admit that I am also lollygagging on the whole thing as I just don't feel that physically fit at the moment. But I was happy to get the old TV out and get a look at what is required.  My biggest problem is to decide how to mount the new TV without making it look like some jack arp carpenter pounded it in to the space.  It won't be an afternoon project for me but it will get done.

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