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jves

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Kwikee vs Lippert Power Step Motor Table
« on: July 23, 2017, 05:02:11 PM »
The Kwikee and Lippert motor table look exactly alike on an online parts supplier photo.
The Kwikee cost $238.00, Lippert cost $435.00. Is there a quality difference or just a price difference?
Many thanks for any insite the my question.
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Re: Kwikee vs Lippert Power Step Motor Table
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2017, 06:59:09 PM »
They... Nevermind.
I know you believe you understand what you think I said,
But I am not sure you realize what you heard is not what I meant


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jves

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Re: Kwikee vs Lippert Power Step Motor Table
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2017, 07:24:56 PM »
Please come to the point...thanks
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Re: Kwikee vs Lippert Power Step Motor Table
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2017, 08:43:29 PM »
I thought you were just talking about the motor, not the motor table. I don't even know what a motor table is on a set of steps.
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But I am not sure you realize what you heard is not what I meant


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Re: Kwikee vs Lippert Power Step Motor Table
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2017, 07:24:52 AM »
The Kwikee and Lippert motor table look exactly alike on an online parts supplier photo. The Kwikee cost $238.00, Lippert cost $435.00. Is there a quality difference or just a price difference? Many thanks for any insite the my question.
Is this on a Winnebago product?
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Re: Kwikee vs Lippert Power Step Motor Table
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2017, 12:29:56 PM »
Yes, the power step is on a  2015 Winnebago Adventurer
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Re: Kwikee vs Lippert Power Step Motor Table
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2017, 05:18:24 PM »
Yes, the power step is on a  2015 Winnebago Adventurer
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Re: Kwikee vs Lippert Power Step Motor Table
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2017, 05:52:07 AM »
So anyway, will someone explain to me what a motor table is?
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Re: Kwikee vs Lippert Power Step Motor Table
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2017, 06:48:44 AM »
Ditto.
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Re: Kwikee vs Lippert Power Step Motor Table
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2017, 07:48:54 AM »
So anyway, will someone explain to me what a motor table is?
Everybody knows what a motor table is  ::)
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Re: Kwikee vs Lippert Power Step Motor Table
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2017, 09:49:50 AM »
Lippert acquired Kwikee about a year ago and has been integrating their step product line with Kwikee, so common parts are not surprising.  But yours is probably an older model, pre-acquisition?

Are the prices you are comparing from the same source?  Pricing differences are common if, for example, one comes from Amazon and the other direct from Lippert. I see Lippert series 42 motor tables on Amazon for $122.

Different model steps have different motor tables (the plate the motor bolts to). Differences may be tiny, e.g. bolt hole pattern or tiny changes of dimensions.
« Last Edit: July 25, 2017, 09:51:46 AM by Gary RV_Wizard »
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Re: Kwikee vs Lippert Power Step Motor Table
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2017, 10:37:06 AM »
Everybody knows what a motor table is  ::)

oh.... gotcha now. ;D
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Re: Kwikee vs Lippert Power Step Motor Table
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2017, 11:00:30 AM »
Everybody knows what a motor table is  ::)

John I was wondering if the table comes in a big block configuration...  ???  I need a little more HP... :-\

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Re: Kwikee vs Lippert Power Step Motor Table
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2017, 11:09:57 AM »
The Kwikee and Lippert motor table look exactly alike on an online parts supplier photo.
The Kwikee cost $238.00, Lippert cost $435.00. Is there a quality difference or just a price difference?
Many thanks for any insite the my question.

jves
What is a "motor table"?

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Re: Kwikee vs Lippert Power Step Motor Table
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2017, 12:36:58 PM »
It's the flat mounting bracket for the step motor.

https://www.amazon.com/Lippert-Components-372749-Motor-Table/dp/B01F92UZ4Y
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Re: Kwikee vs Lippert Power Step Motor Table
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2017, 12:38:25 PM »
Lippert bought Kwikee, so I doubt if there is any difference

http://rvdailyreport.com/industry/lippert-components-acquires-kwikeepower-gear/
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Re: Kwikee vs Lippert Power Step Motor Table
« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2017, 08:23:18 AM »
It's the flat mounting bracket for the step motor.
https://www.amazon.com/Lippert-Components-372749-Motor-Table/dp/B01F92UZ4Y

Thanks Gary
I had never heard the term.

BTW now that I know what a motor table is... I wonder why the OP asked that question?

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Re: Kwikee vs Lippert Power Step Motor Table
« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2017, 10:51:59 AM »
The prices he quoted suggests he is looking at motor + table (the table alone is much less). Differences between step brands and model/series within them are often subtle. Or non-existent. No step manufacturer makes his own motor and gearing - they buy generic units. Typically they are the same motor that powers a car power windows. It's quite possible that any two steps use the same or compatible parts.

It's also likely that the part can be bought direct from a distributor or other source that is not in the RV step business. Often at a much lower retail price.
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Re: Kwikee vs Lippert Power Step Motor Table
« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2017, 12:29:00 PM »
You never said what the problem was with your steps - what's wrong with them?
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Re: Kwikee vs Lippert Power Step Motor Table
« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2017, 05:54:19 PM »
Thank you Forum for all the feedback.
In reply to John Canfield's question regarding what went wrong with my power unit: the fan gear developed
5 broken/worn teeth at the end of the gear resulting with the steps not fully retracting.
I did order the complete Kwikee motor table and will save the original drive motor as a spare.
My conclusion as to why the gear teeth broke:  putting weight on the steps before they fully extend....user fault
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Re: Kwikee vs Lippert Power Step Motor Table
« Reply #21 on: July 26, 2017, 06:31:06 PM »
...My conclusion as to why the gear teeth broke:  putting weight on the steps before they fully extend....user fault
Even after 114,000 miles of using our Horizon, I still have to make a conscious decision to wait for the steps to extend. What fuels my conscious decision is I don't want to step down and the step isn't there  :P.
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Re: Kwikee vs Lippert Power Step Motor Table
« Reply #22 on: July 27, 2017, 07:47:29 AM »
Thank you Forum for all the feedback.
In reply to John Canfield's question regarding what went wrong with my power unit: the fan gear developed
5 broken/worn teeth at the end of the gear resulting with the steps not fully retracting.
I did order the complete Kwikee motor table and will save the original drive motor as a spare.
My conclusion as to why the gear teeth broke:  putting weight on the steps before they fully extend....user fault

jves
Thanks for the update.

 

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