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rvanony

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Looking for replacement toilet
« on: July 28, 2017, 02:58:29 PM »
I have a 20+ year old  Motorhome I'm remodeling, mostly cleaning up, refinishing, removing the old carpet, replacing with floor tile.

The currently installed low profile Thetford toilet, is in poor shape, pretty much needs to replaced. Because of the different issues I don't think it would be worth the cost and effort trying to repair.

So I've been looking around at replacement low profile toilets. So far mainly looking at ones for around a ~$100.00, however I'm wondering about their quality for an installation in a motorhome that's lived in year around (24/7)? I would prefer to install a toilet of better quality designed to be used in a permanent living situation.

 Standard flush toilets made from china I come across all the time, there's no problem swapping in a good used or new flush toilet. However toilets available for RV are designed for travel, low weight and a holding tank aren't normally as sturdy as flush bowl toilets.

I do have a used high profile Thetford 34060 that appears to be in good shape. Has a China bowl but a plastic base, that props it up as a high profile toilet. Still  it's mainly designed for a holding tank, lightness and travel.

The current low profile Thetford is mounted on a approx. 8 - 10" high wood base. I'm thinking perhaps the wood base can be removed and a high profile toilet, if not too large length and width, can be installed instead of the low profile.

I usually do my own plumbing work in homes, but have no experience with RV toilets. I was at one time considering installing a composting toilet but because of the additional expense and the RV hasn't traveled for more than a decade decided it not to be an option as its on a water hookup year around.

Anyway I'm posting mainly to get any thoughts, feedback, comments, suggestions, alternatives, etc. installing replacing my current RV toilet.
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Re: Looking for replacement toilet
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2017, 06:09:22 PM »
You said you are living in the MH 24/7.  Is it in a fixed location, or is it still traveling?  Does the MH still have black and gray holding tanks?
If it has tanks, make sure the black stays CLOSED until at least full to avoid the dreaded poo pile!  If you do not know about this menace, please ask!

A "House" toilet will use much more water than an RV toilet, and fill the black tank more quickly.
With your plumbing skills, you should have no problems with whatever toilet you choose to install.
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Re: Looking for replacement toilet
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2017, 07:12:07 PM »
It's in a space in a RV park and hasn't traveled the last ten years.

I never empty the black tank until it's totally full.  The black tank is periodically washed out with a water hose or pressure washer. There is a grey tank which has been left open for the last ten years.

I don't ever put paper, food stuff, etc. of any kind into the black tank. Normally used is toilet paper, baby or Clorox wipes   that are placed into plastic bags that go into the garbage. Even though water, urine and feces is the main reason for dumping, not using paper with the black tank  extends dumping intervals.

I thought about a regular flush toilet however as you stated the black tank would fill too quickly. If the black tank is  removed I'm not certain about connecting directly to the sewer without a  holding tank and valve.

But I suppose it can be accomplished. The RV would then not be suitable for travel unless of course the black tank can be easily reattached somehow. I would need to take a closer look. I think there are tank straps that hold the black tank into place plus other fittings and tubes for a RV toilet connection.

For travel I would prefer a compost toilet as I normally boondock while traveling, sometimes in areas where there are no dumping stations.

Perhaps I'll also look into a composting toilet, however ones on the market for sale for RV, boats and cabins often start in cost near or around a ~$1000.00 +/-. Some people who know what their doing design and build their own compost toilets, but more often for stationary installations such as a house or cabin.
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Re: Looking for replacement toilet
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2017, 10:47:34 PM »
I have installed this model in two different TT, they hold up well and are better quality than most home toilets plus are porcelain easy to maintain and if limited mobility is an issue the tall model works well.

https://www.amazon.com/Dometic-302310031-Standard-Height-Toilet/dp/B073WYHBHX/ref=dp_ob_title_auto
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Re: Looking for replacement toilet
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2017, 11:02:57 AM »
Both Dometic/Sealand and Thetford make ceramic bowl RV toilets in various heights. The better ones are more than $100, though. We had a Sealand 310+ for 10 years in our coach, so I don't think durability is a major concern, though I'll grant an all-porcelain residential toilet will last indefinitely (with periodic replacement of the water control parts).

A low-flush (1.3 gal) or reduced flush (1.6 gal) residential toilet is maybe not too bad if you have a 40+ gallon tank. RV toilets use still less, but you need a decent volume of water to avoid tank clog problems anyway. We use generate more black water when we have sewer hook-ups just for that reason, so end up dumping more often when we have hook-ups.

I'd stick with the RV toilet, though.
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Re: Looking for replacement toilet
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2017, 01:22:55 PM »
I have installed this model in two different TT, they hold up well and are better quality than most home toilets plus are porcelain easy to maintain and if limited mobility is an issue the tall model works well.

https://www.amazon.com/Dometic-302310031-Standard-Height-Toilet/dp/B073WYHBHX/ref=dp_ob_title_auto

The Dometic 310 Series appears to be worth taking a look at.

I  found a 302310071 as low as $150.00 from a RV parts store and a 302310081 from Camping World for $169.15. Your link to a 302310031 on Amazon is $208.33, uncertain of the differences with Dometic 310 Series Model numbers.

I would need to lower the existing toilet floor as the low profile toilet is mounted approx ~10 inches above  the RV's main floor.

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Re: Looking for replacement toilet
« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2017, 01:31:54 PM »
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Re: Looking for replacement toilet
« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2017, 01:50:15 PM »
Both Dometic/Sealand and Thetford make ceramic bowl RV toilets in various heights. The better ones are more than $100, though. We had a Sealand 310+ for 10 years in our coach, so I don't think durability is a major concern, though I'll grant an all-porcelain residential toilet will last indefinitely (with periodic replacement of the water control parts).

A low-flush (1.3 gal) or reduced flush (1.6 gal) residential toilet is maybe not too bad if you have a 40+ gallon tank. RV toilets use still less, but you need a decent volume of water to avoid tank clog problems anyway. We use generate more black water when we have sewer hook-ups just for that reason, so end up dumping more often when we have hook-ups.

I'd stick with the RV toilet, though.

The current Thetford plastic toilet didn't really last very long compared to a standard toilet. It became busted up only after a few years. Toilet seat and hinges are broken, flush lever has broken off and overfill valve doesn't work, was producing odors until plugged up.

It wasn't really treated very rough, it's mainly many RV appliances need to be treated with additional care. If you don't treat them with special care, most likely will fall apart. Though many appliances made for household have become similar in quality and durability.  e.g. I purchased a Kenmore freezer that lasted a whole two years, just after the warranty expired. No repair parts available, repair shops wanted approx. same or more than cost of a new freezer to repair.

I think one exception may be  RV absorption refrigerators, potentially are able to last 30+ years i.e. if you are careful not to break their hinges, interior parts and keep their seals clean.

However, no comparison to appliances made years ago, often lasting 30+ and 50+ years. I use to  have a Coldspot refrigerator standard install in  1956 a trailer and still running well after 50 years. RV's made back in the 50's many came standard with underfloor duct-ed heating, double pane aluminum windows, actual wood paneling, come standard with large porcelain sinks, toilets, showers, ovens and stoves.


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Re: Looking for replacement toilet
« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2017, 06:38:10 PM »
We've been using a Thetford Style Plus porcelain bowl toilet since 2008 with only one flush gasket replacement for maintenance. I even swapped from one coach to another when we upgraded to our current coach in 2013. We spend about 11 months a year living in our coach. The Style Plus is available in both standard and low profile bases, and uses readily available standard toilet seats.
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Re: Looking for replacement toilet
« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2017, 08:19:08 PM »
Yeah, the Dometic porcelain I think is going to be my choice, unless someone can come up with another porcelain toilet.

As long as the toilet seat and hinges  are fairly sturdy, not prone to breaking and a valves and seals last.

One thing about the old plastic Thetford is none of the seals, valves including the ball valve ever failed. Mainly the toilet seat, hinges, flush lever and overflow valve failed. I guess weren't treated with additional care.
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I'm wondering about any  differences between the Dometic low and high version. Does the high version have any advantages over the low version?

I found a Dometic low version 300 series for $118.00 with free shipping from Camping World.

http://www.campingworld.com/shopping/item/dometic-low-profile-300-gravity-flush-toilet-white/69995&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&scid=scplp69995&sc_intid=69995?utm_campaign=SC_Shopping_High&affiliateid=6313&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI7qOOxOev1QIVk42zCh2xQgb9EAQYAiABEgIQMPD_BwE

Are there any improvements and/or differences between the 300 and 310 / 311 series?
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Re: Looking for replacement toilet
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2017, 08:53:26 PM »
I found some more information on the high version of Dometic 310 series, apparently it's the same as the spare high toilet I have where the porcelain bowl meets with a plastic  base half way  down. Because of the valve design there's no way  the plastic base can be removed.

I also read of problems with leaking. I can't be totally certain but the old plastic Thetford appears to be the original toilet installed back in 92 no signs it ever leaked or had problems.

I also found some differences between the 300, 311, 310, 320 and 321 series.

Materials

Toilet bowl:  vitreous ceramic (models 310, 311, 320, 321)
Polypropylen toilet bowl: (models 300 and 301)
 
Toilet seat: polypropylene (models 300, 301, 310, 311);
enameled wood (models 320, 321)

Flush ball seal: nitrile butyl rubber
Toilet base:  polypropylen
Foot pedal:  polypropylene
Water valve:  polypropylene
Vacuum breaker:  ABS/polypropylene
Floor seal:  nitrile rubber, foam 320, 321); polypropylene (models 300, 301)

Plus there are minor dimensional differences with both the low and high versions.

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Re: Looking for replacement toilet
« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2017, 09:23:28 AM »
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Does the high version have any advantages over the low version?

It does if your legs are longer.  ;)

Seriously, residential toilets are available in high and low profile models too. It's a matter of personal comfort and choice, not functionality. Ditto for bowl shape.

Price-wise, residential toilets are cheaper for a basic but still fully functional porcelain model. Simple production economics - residential toilets are sold by the 100's of thousands annually.  Smaller RVs, however, have weight constraints and many Rvs are targeted at lower budget buyers, so the cheaper & lighter plastic models dominate the much smaller market.  The better quality models are at the higher end of the scale. You can get a larger, porcelain bowl, wood seats, same hinges as any home toilet, etc. 
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Re: Looking for replacement toilet
« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2017, 08:39:49 PM »
In RV's, low profile toilets are often installed in locations where a raised platform is needed to clear piping, wiring, etc., where a standard height toilet would then require an average sized person to need a step stool to sit on it. Typically the finished height is still within the norms for residential toilets.

One example:
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Re: Looking for replacement toilet
« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2017, 05:29:10 PM »
I'm thinking of purchasing a Dometic 300 with the plastic bowl.

The 310 has a ceramic bow with a plastic base. The pdf file shows their exactly the same toilets except the 300 has a plastic instead of a ceramic bowl.

Any reason to pay additional for a ceramic bowl?

 

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« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2017, 07:27:36 PM »
Ceramic bowls typically flush cleaner and are easier to clean and keep clean. Most also accept standard residential seats or even add-on bidet seats if you want one.
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« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2017, 06:30:57 PM »
I found a deal on eBay for a new Thetford 42061 low profile toilet with china bowl and sprayer. Total with shipping was approx. $118.00, however after a few days of paying the seller,  the order was cancelled and I was sent a refund with no explanation.

I've narrowed down my selections to two low profile china bowl toilets, cost with shipping from around ~$150.00 to ~$175.00 (bone often  costs more than a white) however none come with a sprayer.

1. Thetford low profile Residence or Style two (not certain of the difference, pics appear nearly identical)
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2. Dometic 310

I haven't been able to find enough details to determine differences between Thetford and Dometic. Generally from the exterior they appear to have the same basic design using a china bowl with a side foot pedal flush lever.

I think any differences may be with the flush design? Possibly  differences in quality and workmanship,  part design of water valves, type of flushing, foot lever, etc.

Both toilets have a china bowl but the rest of the toilet including the base is made from  plastics.

Attached are pics of both toilets
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Re: Looking for replacement toilet
« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2017, 07:58:29 PM »
I am currently replacing a Dometic 310 because they won't sell me a new ball valve.  Before you buy any toilet, look if parts are available, or is it just a disposable item.

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« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2017, 08:26:40 PM »
I'm not sure why, but I seem to see more complaints about the Thetford Style II than I have about the Style Plus. They both have the porcelain bowl on a plastic base, but different flush and water valve setups. The Style Plus water valve is a separate piece that can be replaced as a unit, while the Style II water valve body is molded into the base, with only the core section replaceable as a separate item. If the body needs replacing, the entire base must be replaced.
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Re: Looking for replacement toilet
« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2017, 01:22:55 AM »
The two Thetford toilet I've been looking at so far

Theford Residence and the Thetford Style II

Both have the ball as part of their replaceable parts list

Residence Parts: http://www.thetford.com/part/aqua-magic-residence/
Style II parts: http://www.thetford.com/part/aqua-magic-style-ii/
Style Plus Parts: http://www.thetford.com/part/aqua-magic-style-plus/

As for price and availability I've considering purchasing the Residence but also  considering others

I'm not certain what you mean by different flush and water valve setups. I would need to take a closer look at the toilets and parts in order to make a decision base partially on repair parts.

I expect unless the toilet is defective perhaps the ball valve and seal may require replacing. If these RV toilets are breaking down for other reasons seems a bit strange as  older rv toilet  designs often lasted 20+ years and never required any sort of maintenance.

Thetford RV toilets: http://www.thetford.com/products/toilets/rv-toilets/

If this is an issue the rv toilet breaking I'm also considering  installing a small standard toilet with a tank. People have installed these into RV's either water saving toilets or place a brick in the toilet so it flushes with less water.

I've read you may either need a min. 40 gallon black water tank or perhaps you can leave the black water tank partially open so it's able to drain fluid. To completely empty you would probably  need to fill then black water tank with water then empty.

I don't use toilet paper of any kind with RV toilets. I sometimes use toilet paper and usually  sanitation wipes and place all the paper into a garbage bin.


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Re: Looking for replacement toilet
« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2017, 06:34:01 AM »

I don't use toilet paper of any kind with RV toilets. I sometimes use toilet paper and usually  sanitation wipes and place all the paper into a garbage bin.


I've never figured out the logic behind not putting toilet paper down the toilet. The system is designed for it. There's a 3" drain off of the black tank that will handle the paper if one uses a decent amount of water. And I have never figured out the RV toilet paper either. We use Cottonelle Ultra, and never have had an issue. I do agree with not putting wipes in any kind of sewage system though. They are not good for a septic system, and if you talk to anyone that works in a wastewater plant,they aren't good in a public system either.
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Re: Looking for replacement toilet
« Reply #20 on: September 08, 2017, 12:07:19 PM »
For myself the wipes work better than toilet paper. Normally I need only one wipe and it cleans better than toilet paper.

Another reason is when using toilet paper I  need to dump more often. I'm a full timer and have lived in this particular RV for approx. 10 years. The toilet is used every day. I'm not certain how large the black tank is but it's not one of the largest.

Anyway I'm thinking about either getting the Thetford Residence or perhaps installing a small toilet with a tank (with perhaps a water saver or use a brick in the tank). I can pick one up from a friend for free. I was thinking perhaps the dumping valve could be left partially open to loose fluid (I use standard drain pipe used for sewers connected and tightly sealed from the black water tank to a septic tank). Then the black water tank can be dumped by closing the valve, filling the black water tank then dumping? I don't know this is pure speculation about installing a tank flush toilet. This RV hasn't been traveled in the 10 years and I don't plan on traveling in it any time soon.

RV toilets have alot of valving, levers, springs, etc. that potentially can cause problems or break. I'm not certain how much of their design is for full timing. Many people successfully use them, but perhaps only part time where the RV is in storage the majority of the time.

I've owned and lived in a mid 50s RV that came with a porcelain tank type toilet that was working like new after 50 years of use.

I worry about stuff produced on the market theses days much of it's designed to fail and be replaced or expensively repaired.

However looking at the Thetford Residence it appears replacement parts are inexpensive enough and repairs  can be easily performed by the owner. I've read some owners of  RV toilets having valve problems, the flushing lever breaking, leaking seals, odor from toilet, etc. hassles not normally found with tank flush toilets.

Instructions for replacing water valve Thetford Residence & Style II

http://www.thetford.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/1449/Service-Kit-42036.pdf




 

 
 
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« Reply #21 on: September 08, 2017, 12:28:13 PM »
I've found a Dometic 310 and a Theford Residence for about the same price. The Dometic is $10.00 more in shipping.

Both appear similar but don't know how they compare internally or when repairs are  needed.

I have a Thetford 34060 High Profile that someone threw out. It appears to have little use. I haven't tested it out.

Installing a high profile or standard flush toilet would require ripping up the toilet floor box that the low profile is installed on.

Measuring the black water tank  Total Volume = 18.41 US Gallons not really large enough to install a tank flush toilet. So I'm leaning towards the Thetford Residence that has parts available.

There is a user on another forum that stated his Dometic 310 ball developed a crack and there is no replacement ball. He threw out his 310 and found another toilet


Which I thought is  very odd. Why would Dometic produce  popular toilets as the 300, 310, 311 and 320
 and not have a replacement ball available? I believe Dometic 3xx toilets would use the same ball and other parts. The 320 I think has an elongated bowl and comes standard with a wood toilet seat.

This is the second time I've read a forum message of a Dometic 310 having a cracked ball.






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« Reply #22 on: September 08, 2017, 10:55:25 PM »
Since I'm not able to verify the Dometic 310 has no replaceable ball which has cracked for some of the Dometic 310 owners. I've decided go with a Thetford 42172 Residence that has a  replaceable part list that includes the ball valve.

I'm not really impressed with either of the toilets including their toilet seats but I guess either one will have to do as a less expensive option. The next option would be to install a RV toilet with an electronic push button flush and / or a macerator or macerator system

The Thetford  42061 and  42062 are a style II  come with a slightly different type of toilet seat and a sprayer.

I'm uncertain of other differences between the Residence and Style II except for the toilet seat.

The Style II is advertised as a entry level toilet.

I guess if I'm going to need spend money on  less expensive stuff (many people consider to be cheap junk) it's going to be the best quality cheap junk available, even though it's probably designed to be replaced sooner than later.

Not that many years ago most household and non-household items and equipment was designed to last 30+ years. I guess this is no longer true as many items are manufactured and designed to be affordable and to fail after a certain amount of time. Which is often less than 7 to 10 years.

 





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« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2017, 07:32:02 AM »
Our Thetford Style Plus has been in service in two different TV's since 2008 with no issues except replacing the bowl gasket once. The seat is identical except for the color to the Kohler seat on the residential toilet in our cottage.
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« Reply #24 on: September 09, 2017, 08:08:10 PM »
After researching some more I found a message on one of the forums that Thetford Residence is an all plastic toilet without a China porcelain bowl.

People who sell RV toilet often describe a RV toilet as China or having a china bowl, however if the bowl is plastic they normally won't provide any information about what the bowl is made from.

After researching some more I found a Thetford Aqua Magic Style II Low Profile toilet with China in the description.

So I'm considering the Thetford Style II  (with hand sprayer is only another ten dollars).

A Thetford Style Plus low profile toilet bone is approx. another $80.00.

Is there a reason why the Syle Plus would be worth another $80.00?

The bowl appears a little more elongated than the Syle II whose bowl is more rounded. The foot pedal flush lever is located on the front of the base front rather than on the left side.




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« Reply #25 on: September 09, 2017, 10:15:34 PM »
I seem to see more problem complaints with the Style II than I do with the Plus. I'm not sure why though. Our Plus has held up well for us since 2008.
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Re: Looking for replacement toilet
« Reply #26 on: September 14, 2017, 06:58:33 AM »
I already ordered the 42065 Style II and waiting for it to arrive.

The Style II is a fairly popular toilet installed in new motorhomes, 5th Wheels and trailers. I have a later version I think that comes with an improved valve design which may be only better o-rings that are hard water resistance.

I've read problems with older Style II's but don't know if the newer models still have same problems with leaking valves and seals. The older Style II version comes with a different toilet seat.

Older toilet  seat - 1A   42037   Seat and Cover Assembly - Bone (pre-May 2015)
Newer toilet seat  1B   42179   Seat and Cover Assembly - Bone (post-May 2015)

There is some slight differences with the toilet seat and cover of 1A and 1B.

From information I have the 42063 is the older pre-may 2015 Aqua-Magic Style II toilet and the 42065 the one I purchased is the later version Style II. I'm uncertain of the exact differences. The one I purchase as the 42179 toilet seat.

I'm uncertain of  other changes were made to the newer Style II I think it uses the same bowl and other parts except for a perhaps an improved water valve and toilet seat.

Anyway I'm planning on lubing the entire toilet before installation and soaking the main bowl seal overnight or a few days in some sort of silicon lubricant. This is how the Thetford Seal Lubricant and Conditioner is applied by dumping in the bowl and letting it sit for hours or overnight.

I'm going to pre-lube any moving parts including the flush pedal and any spring and levers.

 Where I stay in a RV has hard water even though it passes state testing it's either cloudy or brown and stains water pipes, faucets and plumbing fixtures.
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Some RV Toilet manufactures recommend to lube the toilet main seal using furniture polish and/or silicone spray.

Other people have used coconut oil, and other types of mineral based oil, as mineral oil isn't suppose to cause any damage to most  plastics and rubber and may help to preserve and lubricate rubber seals?

One guy states he cleans and lubes his rv toilet every two weeks. Which is sort of ridiculous as there are older RVs from the 80's, 90s and 2000's with their originally installed rv toilet still working without any problems,  no leaks from water valves, seals, etc. Many have never had any sort of maintenance since installed at the factory, other than the owners cleaned out the toilet bowl.


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