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Remind me I left the kid in the car!
« on: August 01, 2017, 05:53:28 PM »
Proposed legislation would require car manufacturers to build in an alarm for folks who would otherwise leave their child in the back of a car. Did I miss something in parenting 101?

This blows my mind, although I'm really empathetic about the children who have died after being left in a car that subsequently got very hot.

How can a parent or other relative not remember that they have a child in their car?
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« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2017, 06:00:04 PM »
It happened twice here in Phoenix this past weekend. Both children didn't make it. It's hard to imagine how one forgets but it seems like it is a break in their routine.

When we had our children, they didn't have car seats or a mandate to put kids in the back seat.  So we usually had our infants in the front seat with us.  Probably not the safest thing but it made it harder to forget they were in there.
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Re: Remind me I left the kid in the car!
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2017, 06:01:16 PM »
Lack of sleep, being off the regular routine (non regular drop off parent is now the drop off parent), kids fall asleep and are completely silent, rear facing car seats look the same when you glance back whether or not a kid is in them, lots of these things compound and result in tragedy. But I think one of the biggest things is the lack of solid parental leave in this country, combined with the loss of our parenting village, resulting in parents having to drop babies off at daycare and return to work without adequate recovery and adjustment time during a time when babies simply aren't developmentally ready to sleep through the night. Driving drowsy can be more dangerous than driving drunk, and we expect people to be back at work like they weren't just up for a good 30 minutes or more every one to two hours through the night.

(from a mom of a 5 year old and soon to be 3 year old who is 3 weeks away from having baby #3)

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« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2017, 06:19:37 PM »
As a parent of five, grandparent of four, and great grandparent of one, I suggest that you put away your cell phone and pay more attention to your children. There is absolutely no excuse for not remembering that you have a child in the back of your car.
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« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2017, 06:22:46 PM »
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« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2017, 06:24:24 PM »
It's the epitome of distracted driving/parenting... 

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« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2017, 06:34:58 PM »
I once picked up a pizza with my faithful Dachshund 'left' in the car right in front of the pizza parlor.  In a matter of 3 minutes I had two people confront me telling me I was killing my dog!!  Windows were down and the temp outside was maybe 80 degrees.

I'm curious where these same folks are when a child sits in a car for HOURS!!!
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Re: Remind me I left the kid in the car!
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2017, 06:43:16 PM »
@Tom, I feel like that's directed at me. I fail to see what cellphone use has to do with driving, since I don't use it when I'm driving. When you were a parent of young children, did they ride rear facing and fall asleep on the way to day care in the morning? Did you drive them? Did you have help during the first year? Family around? Did you help out when your own grandchildren were under 1?

We have zero family around. I'm lucky that I can stop working for the first year, but that doesn't mean my older kids don't still need a functional parent while my husband goes immediately back to work. It at least means I don't have to operate heavy machinery while sleep deprived though as we're within walking distance of the oldest's school. Bear in mind that when you live with them, the noise and chaos becomes the background sound track to life and one little one sleeping silently in a container can be surprisingly easy to overlook. The older ones can be significantly more distracting than a cell phone.

But you specifically asked "How can a parent or other relative not remember that they have a child in their car?"

I gave several answers based in the current culture and my own current experience. Then you came back with your parenting credentials and a lecture about cell phone usage. This is not the same landscape you parented in. It's not even the same world I grew up in. And bear in mind that the internet provides us access to information we wouldn't have gotten otherwise, in addition to being an echo chamber. Would you have known about the children in Phoenix if Lowell hadn't posted? Would you know how common this is or isn't without sensationalist news and then all the "me too" stories that follow on the internet?

Please, aim for compassion before judgement.

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« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2017, 06:53:36 PM »
Many of us simply stayed home and cared for our children.  I didn't go back to work until my children were in school most of the day.  Could we afford it?  NO!  Did we think it necessary for our child's well being?  YES!  Did staying home with the children drive me crazy after enjoying a stimulating, thought provoking job.  YES!  Would I do it any differently?  NO!  Did I every "forget" my children were in the car with me?  Of course not!  And, in those days, parenthood could not be "planned".  Now, it can be.  In this day and age children deserve to be planned for and cared for. 

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« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2017, 07:38:15 PM »
I just typed out a nice long reply, but I guess the good Lord decided that I shouldn't post it, because I hit something before I was finished and it disappeared. Probably better that way, because it would have made someone mad.
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« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2017, 07:57:38 PM »
 There's an app for your phone that reminds you when you turn off your car    There is no excuse for leaving a child in the car   
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« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2017, 08:44:25 PM »

Please, aim for compassion before judgement.

AMEN.  My heart aches for any parent who loses a child, regardless of the circumstances.

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Re: Remind me I left the kid in the car!
« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2017, 09:51:45 PM »
Today,  I went for a test ride in a new 2017 Chevy Bolt.   Right on the main menu screen there is a button that says "rear seat occupant alarm".

It would be great if it worked for pets too.
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« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2017, 10:37:03 PM »
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@Tom, I feel like that's directed at me.

Not directed at any specific individual.

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Maybe you missed this in my prior message:

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« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2017, 10:58:27 PM »
Here's a low tech solution for the folks who don't recall having passengers in the car. This was posted by a forum member some years ago to illustrate what he checks for before driving off in his RV; It reminded him to be sure his wife and his dog Spencer were on board.

I use an equally low tech solution; Before driving off in a car or RV, I always ask out loud "is everyone on board?", and mentally do a roll call while listening to the replies.
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« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2017, 11:37:27 PM »
There should be a mandatory Breathalyzer in every vehicle ESPECIALLY if you are transporting children.

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« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2017, 12:15:58 AM »
How selfish does one be not knowing they have their kid in the car with me?
I have none of my own, but have taken my wife's cousins kid to the zoo a few times. Mind blowing.
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« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2017, 04:05:37 AM »
I just typed out a nice long reply, but I guess the good Lord decided that I shouldn't post it, because I hit something before I was finished and it disappeared. Probably better that way, because it would have made someone mad.
When that happens all you have to do is right click the message area and then select undo and everything will magically return.
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« Reply #18 on: August 02, 2017, 05:54:12 AM »
When that happens all you have to do is right click the message area and then select undo and everything will magically return.

Thanks Tom, I'll remember that for the future. But considering what I wrote, it's probably better that it disappeared.
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« Reply #19 on: August 02, 2017, 06:37:40 AM »
Proposed legislation would require car manufacturers to build in an alarm for folks who would otherwise leave their child in the back of a car. Did I miss something in parenting 101?

This blows my mind, although I'm really empathetic about the children who have died after being left in a car that subsequently got very hot.

How can a parent or other relative not remember that they have a child in their car?

Saw a piece on TV yesterday about a young high school kid who has invented a device to warn parents the kid is still in the car.  Did not see any details on how it works but the reported says auto companies are interested.

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« Reply #20 on: August 02, 2017, 06:43:53 AM »
You sometimes see a report of a kid left on a school bus at the end of the day - usually no fatalities but reminds me of when I drove a school bus for one year.  More than once I had a small kid zonk out on me and slip down in the seat where you could not see them.  My last stop in the pm was a large yard so I took the time to do a complete walk back through the bus to check for nappers.  In my one year, I found at least six sleepers none of whom were visible from the drivers seat.  Parents have to learn to never divert their attention to their most important duty.

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« Reply #21 on: August 02, 2017, 07:58:07 AM »
Bill, your story reminds me of some acquaintances in our younger days; Their son was always up to some mischief. One time, the Mom was on the service bus with him en route to school. The Mom liked to chat with other Moms, and she didn't notice that, when she exited the bus, her son had hid under the seat. That was one of the milder tricks he got up to, but a real example of where the Mom wasn't paying attention.
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« Reply #22 on: August 02, 2017, 09:49:42 AM »
There should be a mandatory Breathalyzer in every vehicle ESPECIALLY if you are transporting children.
alcohol is only one thing,  prescription drugs don't show up on a breathalyzer.

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« Reply #23 on: August 02, 2017, 09:54:24 AM »
Bill, your story reminds me of some acquaintances in our younger days; Their son was always up to some mischief. One time, the Mom was on the service bus with him en route to school. The Mom liked to chat with other Moms, and she didn't notice that, when she exited the bus, her son had hid under the seat. That was one of the milder tricks he got up to, but a real example of where the Mom wasn't paying attention.

Some would say that whatever happens,  is the Darwin theory.
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« Reply #24 on: August 02, 2017, 10:16:19 AM »
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Some would say that whatever happens, is the Darwin theory.

Tony, anyone who knew the couple would not say that; They're some of the nicest people I've known, and I'd often say they didn't deserve to be stuck with this kid. One evening, I was driving past their house on the way home from work, and saw the fire department outside. The following day I learned that he'd set the baby's crib on fire (with the baby in it), and sat on his bed to watch.
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« Reply #25 on: August 02, 2017, 10:45:43 AM »
Tom.
As a parent I can only imagine the pain that family endures.  The hardest part of life is understanding all the cruelty that happens in the world.

This reminds me of a time at the rim of the Grand Canyon when we saw this young 4-5 yr old boy from Iran climbing around on the guard rail.   My brother says to his parents, "Your son may fall, you better watch him !",  and the father replies,  "he will fall only if that is Allah's will".

Do we have an obligation to overrule these parents and protect the child ?
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« Reply #26 on: August 02, 2017, 11:09:45 AM »
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« Reply #27 on: August 02, 2017, 11:48:04 AM »
I am sure it wasn't the intention of the parents to kill their child, we all have babies wanting the best for them. I have a co worker that got all the way to work and parked and realized that his baby was in the back seat only because the diaper bag was in the front seat. He never usually took the child to daycare but his wife happened to be sick that day so he did it and totally forgot on his way to work because he was thinking about work. He is a great parent and after he told me that I never tried to judged the people you see on the news that this happens to.
But he did make it a point to put the diaper bag up in the front seat from then on to make sure that he would never do that again.

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« Reply #28 on: August 02, 2017, 01:18:26 PM »
I have never and will never have children, so why the hell should I have to pay for a device in a car that is nothing but an excuse for sorry parenting?
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« Reply #29 on: August 02, 2017, 01:25:05 PM »
he was thinking about work. He is a great parent and after he told me that I never tried to judged the people you see on the news that this happens to.


He was thinking about work, HUH? I will judge him for putting his work before his child. To me there are no excuses for forgetting a child in the back seat. We all make mistakes  but this is the ultimate. I couldn't live with myself knowing I killed my child because of a stupid accident. All accidents are preventable.
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« Reply #30 on: August 02, 2017, 02:43:42 PM »
In one of the cases in Phoenix, the child was left in the car by the grandparents. to me, that's even more surprising.
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« Reply #31 on: August 02, 2017, 05:09:32 PM »
I will try this again... One factor is STRESS.. STRESS can cause all sorts of "Malfunctions"

True story: A college professor who did not yet have tenure was stressed about his class and the student review (Which would be a factor in if he received tenure or not) and other things.

Bills. LIke the easily obtained Sub Prime Adjustable rate mortgage on your house where the rate just skyrocketed.  (A program designed to let the bank take your house)

Stress caused by more and more work with fewer and fewer employees doing it (Been there myself, but did not forget my daughter.. Well by the time that hit me she was driving her own car)

Oh the professor.. He lost a child.

Stress, can seriously mess up your mind.. And with sad results.   And much of it could be prevented.  Though not necessarily by you,
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« Reply #32 on: August 02, 2017, 06:10:24 PM »
I have never and will never have children, so why the hell should I have to pay for a device in a car that is nothing but an excuse for sorry parenting?

Do you pay property taxes? If so, you are paying for others kids to go to school. You don't have kids so you don't know hectic it can get. Don't get me wrong. I think it is reprehensible that a child has to die because someone forgot them in a hot car. But, parents are human beings and we make mistakes, we do stupid stuff. When that stupid thing causes the death of another human being, whether it be a stranger due to drunk driving or a child due to lack of attention we have to pay for that action with not only prison time but with the lifelong guilt of taking that life. But, let's get back to your selfish stance on having to pay for something that may never benefit you. Do you have family or friends that have children or grandchildren? I would posit you know someone, someone is close to you with kids. What if this device saved one of those kids life? If it made you feel better you could brag that you helped save that kids life in spite his/her parents sorry parenting.
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« Reply #33 on: August 02, 2017, 08:29:09 PM »
It seems like this is a warm weather problem.  Or does it happen in winter in the cold states?  Is this a relatively new phenomenon? I don't know what to think about it. 
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« Reply #34 on: August 02, 2017, 08:47:21 PM »
It is primarily a warm weather problem. Most cars will retain enough heat to sustain life for a number of hours, even in sub-zero weather, increasing the chances that the child will be noticed in time. A car can heat up to unbearable temperatures in a much shorter time frame.
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« Reply #35 on: August 02, 2017, 09:30:18 PM »
My thought is the alarm should be built into the car seat, so that it would still work in older cars that don't have the alarm.
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« Reply #36 on: August 02, 2017, 11:37:49 PM »
Talk to your children.......it can do all kinds of wonderful things.
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« Reply #37 on: August 03, 2017, 01:10:07 AM »
My sister in law has five kids. Years ago when they were preteens she was going on a trip across the state and left one of them at a gas station. State police pulled her over after about a half hour and told her of the problem.

They told her she could be arrested for child abandonment.
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« Reply #38 on: August 03, 2017, 01:18:09 AM »
My parents had five kids and left one at a nearby store once. 
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« Reply #39 on: August 03, 2017, 07:50:03 AM »
I like chaser's idea - simple and effective.  Since it will be impossible to 'fix' all distracted parenting, finding a child-friendly solution seems reasonable and would benefit those with the most to lose - the kids. 

This thread also makes me wonder how many children have been saved by backup cameras in our cars/trucks.  Too many young kids have died this unnecessary death also.

My thought is the alarm should be built into the car seat, so that it would still work in older cars that don't have the alarm.
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« Reply #40 on: August 03, 2017, 08:23:17 AM »
Folks, please take political rants elsewhere. As explained in our forum rules, they're not welcome here. I've moved several messages out of sight. Thanks.
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« Reply #41 on: August 03, 2017, 08:38:45 AM »
I like chaser's idea - simple and effective.  Since it will be impossible to 'fix' all distracted parenting, finding a child-friendly solution seems reasonable and would benefit those with the most to lose - the kids. 

This thread also makes me wonder how many children have been saved by backup cameras in our cars/trucks.  Too many young kids have died this unnecessary death also.


I agree the car seat device makes the most sense. Perhaps tied to an OBD2 port plug-in device that senses when the car is shut off.
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« Reply #42 on: August 03, 2017, 09:38:02 AM »
I have never and will never have children, so why the hell should I have to pay for a device in a car that is nothing but an excuse for sorry parenting?
That's like saying you will never have passengers so why pay for airbags on the passengers side.  Your car may also be eventually traded or sold to another party who would like to have that feature - it gives the vehicle added value.  But then if you are not a parent I am just talking to the wall.  Sorry but that's the way a parent feels.
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Re: Remind me I left the kid in the car!
« Reply #43 on: August 03, 2017, 02:08:07 PM »
I like the above idea mentioned.  Put the sensor in the car seat.  That makes it a "user pays" system.  Speaking of such, the government schools should be a "user pays" system, similar to the post office.  Subsidized to a degree by the taxpayers (through sales tax would be best so not only property owners carry the load) and then primarily paid for by parents who have children in that school.
Not an issue to me, as I only buy/drive bigger trucks, which are put in more of a commercial classification.  They are not required to have many of these "features" that passenger cars require.
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Re: Remind me I left the kid in the car!
« Reply #44 on: August 03, 2017, 03:09:59 PM »
Those of us that carry kids/grandkids in our vehicles maybe could fasten a tether to the kid and when you get out of the car the tether would tug warning you a kid was still in the car.
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Re: Remind me I left the kid in the car!
« Reply #45 on: August 03, 2017, 08:14:48 PM »
I have never and will never have children, so why the hell should I have to pay for a device in a car that is nothing but an excuse for sorry parenting?
It's not for the parents. It's for the kids.

I also wonder how many dogs have died that way. And how this alarm works.

I remember it happening a year ago in Sacramento, CA. In this case, it was a police dog left in the car while the cop was in the station BSing with his cop buddies in the 100F heat, car much hotter inside.  The dog died and the cop was canned.

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Re: Remind me I left the kid in the car!
« Reply #46 on: August 03, 2017, 08:36:29 PM »
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Re: Remind me I left the kid in the car!
« Reply #47 on: August 04, 2017, 07:51:32 AM »
Those of us that carry kids/grandkids in our vehicles maybe could fasten a tether to the kid and when you get out of the car the tether would tug warning you a kid was still in the car.
Better yet, connect a tether from the kids car seat to YOU so that if you attempt to get out of the car the tether would remind you that something was forgotten.

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Re: Remind me I left the kid in the car!
« Reply #48 on: August 04, 2017, 07:56:39 AM »
Better yet, connect a tether from the kids car seat to YOU so that if you attempt to get out of the car the tether would remind you that something was forgotten.

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I'm pretty sure that's what I said, although not in tech order fashion.
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Re: Remind me I left the kid in the car!
« Reply #49 on: August 04, 2017, 07:59:49 AM »
Put a elastic around 2 of your fingers.  There are hundreds of ways to remind you.
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Re: Remind me I left the kid in the car!
« Reply #50 on: August 04, 2017, 08:09:10 AM »
I could never forget my grandkids are in the backseat-they never shut up.
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Re: Remind me I left the kid in the car!
« Reply #51 on: August 04, 2017, 08:13:33 AM »
The problem I see with a parent/grandparent tether and other "reminder" systems, is that they require remembering to do it by people that would swear they'd never forget the kid, yet they do. An automated system removes that risk...
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« Reply #52 on: August 04, 2017, 09:53:51 AM »
I'm trying to remember what this thread was about. Wait...is that smoke I smell and where is that water coming from...what were we talking about?
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Re: Remind me I left the kid in the car!
« Reply #53 on: August 04, 2017, 10:36:57 AM »
    That is what is referred to as "DRIFT", and it happens quite frequently in particular if there are any politically or personal opinions expressed.  Even, when a few of what must have been more argumentative posts were removed.  Oh well, given that I have total recall, I shouldn't ever have the OP's problem.  If I could only remember what that was.

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Re: Remind me I left the kid in the car!
« Reply #54 on: August 04, 2017, 02:38:24 PM »
Perhaps a 'Baby On Board' sign would remind the driver/parent.  Especially if placed on the windshield right in front of the driver's face.  Or, hang it from your hat much like the tassel on a mortarboard... 
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Re: Remind me I left the kid in the car!
« Reply #55 on: August 04, 2017, 02:46:33 PM »
I'm pretty sure that's what I said, although not in tech order fashion.
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Re: Remind me I left the kid in the car!
« Reply #56 on: August 05, 2017, 12:05:46 AM »
As a parent of five, grandparent of four, and great grandparent of one, I suggest that you put away your cell phone and pay more attention to your children. There is absolutely no excuse for not remembering that you have a child in the back of your car.

Agree 100%! How on earth can you forget your child is in the car with you?!
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Re: Remind me I left the kid in the car!
« Reply #57 on: August 05, 2017, 08:02:21 AM »
Agree 100%! How on earth can you forget your child is in the car with you?!

Happens more than you can imagine. I suppose we can say throw the book at these folks, prison for life, 20 years, whatever. Until it happens to someone you care about, family or friend then you might change your tune. Humans are fallible. We make mistakes. Folks leave their guns in places where kids can get them and a tragedy happens. Kids drown in backyard pools. Family pets kill or maim kids. When these things happen, they happen because someone was not paying attention. So, to say "How can you forget your child is in the car with?". It happens.
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Re: Remind me I left the kid in the car!
« Reply #58 on: August 05, 2017, 08:41:21 AM »
Didn't leave any in the vehicle, but left one behind.

 We have eight children, and many years ago, we were on the interstate and stopped at a rest area.
 They all piled out and we headed to the rest room. Young Tom  who loved to read, didn't have to go so he just grabbed his book and headed to some shade under a tree.
 When it was time to go, they all piled in and we took off. We got a few miles down the road, and some one who was in the third seat casually said that Tommy wasn't there. Needless to say we almost had heart attacks.
 I got off at the next exit and returned, and there was Tom sitting in the exact same place still reading his book.
 He had never even missed us.
 After that incident we always had a head count !
  Many times since when we all get together for cookouts, etc they love to kid him and us about it.

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Re: Remind me I left the kid in the car!
« Reply #59 on: August 05, 2017, 08:45:32 AM »
Passed forum member Shayne Berta left his wife at a Flying J. He didn't realize she'd gone into the store while he was filling with gas.
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Re: Remind me I left the kid in the car!
« Reply #60 on: August 05, 2017, 09:05:47 AM »
Didn't leave any in the vehicle, but left one behind.

 We have eight children
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Re: Remind me I left the kid in the car!
« Reply #61 on: August 05, 2017, 10:36:03 AM »
Lost another child yesterday I believe it was in AZ. The baby was 4 months old under the care of the grandmother.
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Re: Remind me I left the kid in the car!
« Reply #62 on: August 05, 2017, 11:40:01 AM »
more and more Gram's have been called back into action as it take two incomes to raise a young family any more.

if the new Chevy's have a 'rear pass.' warning device built into the car it must be an issue big enough for GM to do something about it.

it's like seatbelts......99.99 % of the time they are not needed,  but when they are needed they save lives.
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Re: Remind me I left the kid in the car!
« Reply #63 on: August 05, 2017, 04:09:26 PM »
    I put this in a similar category as a child drowning in a pool when there are adults around but I have a good friend that lost his child that way and he was a hover dad. just one moment of forgetfulness and he pays for it all his life.
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Re: Remind me I left the kid in the car!
« Reply #64 on: August 05, 2017, 06:19:43 PM »
Years ago I thought I might be an over-protective parent and discussed it with our pediatrician.  He said "There is no such thing as an over-protective parent!"  One of his little patients had just drowned in a home pool.  He was very adamant.

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Re: Remind me I left the kid in the car!
« Reply #65 on: August 06, 2017, 02:24:56 AM »
Hey Don, did you move from SSFO or from your Reno place?
I still have my two houses in Reno. I sold my house in SSF and bought this one in Auburn late last year.

It's nice to be out of the Bay Area traffic! It's less than half the distance from here to Reno and no  traffic (usually) and no bridges.

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Re: Remind me I left the kid in the car!
« Reply #66 on: August 06, 2017, 12:36:37 PM »
more and more Gram's have been called back into action as it take two incomes to raise a young family any more.

if the new Chevy's have a 'rear pass.' warning device built into the car it must be an issue big enough for GM to do something about it.

it's like seatbelts......99.99 % of the time they are not needed,  but when they are needed they save lives.

Saw a lighted highway sign yesterday listing the number of traffic deaths in the state so far this year but most shocking was the statement that 65 PERCENT WERE NOT USING SAFETY BELTS.  You can't fix stupid and a lot of young folks think they are invincible.
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Re: Remind me I left the kid in the car!
« Reply #67 on: August 06, 2017, 01:03:14 PM »
     Guess I might as well confess.  Years ago we Volkswalked every weekend [10 k walks].  On a Saturday morning did a walk on the coast of Oregon and headed to Portland to do a afternoon event.  On the way , stopped to fuel up the Roadtrek.  Raymonda was in back asleep as I got out to gas up.  She awoke and went into the store.  I finished fueling and drove off.  As I were getting back on I 5, there was construction, so I called back to her about rough road.....no response, looked back, no DW.  Got off at the next exit and returned.  There she was sitting a on a bench enjoying a apple fritter.  I do miss that little Lady.

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Re: Remind me I left the kid in the car!
« Reply #68 on: August 06, 2017, 01:20:11 PM »
Saw a lighted highway sign yesterday listing the number of traffic deaths in the state so far this year but most shocking was the statement that 65 PERCENT WERE NOT USING SAFETY BELTS.  You can't fix stupid and a lot of young folks think they are invincible.
There are settings in new cars that will not allow the radio to play if there are seatbelts unfastened.

but IMO....cell phone use, is the new drunk drivers of the road.

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Re: Remind me I left the kid in the car!
« Reply #69 on: August 06, 2017, 08:21:38 PM »
And the message is spreading. While driving down an interstate in TN a few days ago, we passed a road side highway sign with the message " Are you kids in the back seat?"  I was amazed. But apparently the problem has  reached a new level of urgency.
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