THE CHILDREN OF THE SILENT GENERATION...

[Oldgator73]

So then I guess we agree.     Same as the national anthem,  That makes it perfectly ethical not to stand up for a judge in court in a court of law.

Glad we're still friends. 

I have disdain for the inequalities within our justice system. If you want to protest the justice system by staying seated or taking a knee when the judge enters, I would protect your right to do so. Peaceful protest is a right under our Constitution. But let me make something perfectly clear, the athletes are not protesting the flag, national anthem or the military.

 

Nope, cannot understand "disdain" for the best legal system in the world. To which system do you compare our system. Jeesh...

Since I am not versed in all countries justice systems I cannot, with any certainty, say ours is the best. I can say that the US justice system does not treat all citizens equal and fair.

[TonyDtorch]

isn't the whole damn football protest really just about not being treated equal and fair ?

I guess everyone should take a knee.

[John Beard]

I have disdain for the inequalities within our justice system. If you want to protest the justice system by staying seated or taking a knee when the judge enters, I would protect your right to do so. Peaceful protest is a right under our Constitution. But let me make something perfectly clear, the athletes are not protesting the flag, national anthem or the military.

 
Since I am not versed in all countries justice systems I cannot, with any certainty, say ours is the best. I can say that the US justice system does not treat all citizens equal and fair.

Inequalities and you want to pass blame on the system...tsk., tsk., tsk. You have to remember that the system is staff by people, people make decisions based on their worldview. If you want to invoke change vote. If you already vote then get involved and invoke the change you so desire according to your worldview.

The protests are about a spoiled adopted child who started off having a tantrum and taking a knee out of his immaturity...the press created the drama. You folks have bought into the drama.

[Oldgator73]

isn't the whole damn football protest really just about not being treated equal and fair ?

I guess everyone should take a knee.

I'll agree with that.

Inequalities and you want to pass blame on the system...tsk., tsk., tsk. You have to remember that the system is staff by people, people make decisions based on their worldview. If you want to invoke change vote. If you already vote then get involved and invoke the change you so desire according to your worldview.

The protests are about a spoiled adopted child who started off having a tantrum and taking a knee out of his immaturity...the press created the drama. You folks have bought into the drama.

The system is the people. I do vote and I am involved. I guess you have a right to your opinion as to why Colin Kaepernick started this protest but there are some facts you are ignoring. He is protesting the treatment that many black folks are receiving at the hands of some very bad cops. He first was sitting during the Anthem but then he was approached by a former Army Special Forces and NFL player Nate Boyer. They had a meeting and Boyer ask Kaepernick asked if he would mind kneeling and not sitting. Boyer told him sitting could be misconstrued as disrespect for the flag and the Anthem. Kaepernick agreed with him and that is why the athletes now kneel. Those are the facts. Colin Kaepernick is a very magnanimous guy who gives a lot of money away to many causes. He is certainly someone I can respect.

[kdbgoat]

Somehow I don't think Tom saw all this coming when he started the topic.

[Oldgator73]

Somehow I don't think Tom saw all this coming when he started the topic.

Anytime any of us post anything we can't imagine what it might morph into. I don't think anybody has been disrespectful. If so I'm sure the moderators would have shut it down. There are some of us that seem to enjoy a good back and forth. Are Tony and going to spend a Thanksgiving together? Probably not (I'll be in Spain on Thanksgiving day).

[LarsMac]

You can have pride in your country and still want your country to be better. We, as a country, should strive to always be better. When America was in its infancy only white men had the right to vote and hold office. It took many, many years hardship and bloodshed for people of color and women to obtain those rights. There are many examples of inequality in our history. We as a nation are getting better but we cannot just sit back and say we are done. We have to continue to work to make things equal for all as stated in the Constitution. I served my country for 36 years. I do not want that 36 years of service squandered by our country backsliding into what some call the good ole days.

[John Beard]

I'll agree with that.

The system is the people. I do vote and I am involved. I guess you have a right to your opinion as to why Colin Kaepernick started this protest but there are some facts you are ignoring. He is protesting the treatment that many black folks are receiving at the hands of some very bad cops. He first was sitting during the Anthem but then he was approached by a former Army Special Forces and NFL player Nate Boyer. They had a meeting and Boyer ask Kaepernick asked if he would mind kneeling and not sitting. Boyer told him sitting could be misconstrued as disrespect for the flag and the Anthem. Kaepernick agreed with him and that is why the athletes now kneel. Those are the facts. Colin Kaepernick is a very magnanimous guy who gives a lot of money away to many causes. He is certainly someone I can respect.

I not buying any of it. Kaepernick has no more of a clue what it is to be oppressed than does the man in the moon. This is about diversion, it's about distraction, but it has nothing whatsoever about inequality. I call double bologna on all of that nonsense. 

[TonyDtorch]

I love how all these multimillionaire celebrities are portrayed (or Marketed) on TV as if they suffer the same hardships and injustice as the common man.

Jimmy Kimmel weeps for Obama-care..... yet he can afford a VIP suite at Cedars Sinai Medical Center.


If it wasn't for the celebrity double standard system,  O.J. would be on death row... instead of on his way back to being revered by Floridians.   

[Bill N]

And you sir are demonstrating classic white privilege.  If you do not like the conversation, stay out of it. 

Yes, this is a typical response:  "If I don't like what you say then you shutup."   White Priviledge? Really?  Surely you can come up with something that wasn't invented for people of your persuasion to try and put a guilt trip on others.

Bill

[Bill N]

Didn't know there was an unnotify list.

  Below a post there is a choice to be notified for any additional posts to that thread.  You will be sent an email when there is.  If you have checked that box previously then the box will read Unnotify which you select if you no longer want to receive email updates on the thread.  At least that's how I understand it.

Bill

[Dragginourbedaround]

  Below a post there is a choice to be notified for any additional posts to that thread.  You will be sent an email when there is.  If you have checked that box previously then the box will read Unnotify which you select if you no longer want to receive email updates on the thread.  At least that's how I understand it.

Bill

Thanks! I knew that, I thought maybe there was a button you could push that would stop the post from showing up in your unread feed.

[Oldgator73]

Yes, this is a typical response:  "If I don't like what you say then you shutup."   White Priviledge? Really?  Surely you can come up with something that wasn't invented for people of your persuasion to try and put a guilt trip on others.

Bill

What persuasion would that be?

[TonyDtorch]

Don't take the bait Bill.      I'm still having fun....

[Oldgator73]

Don't take the bait Bill.      I'm still having fun....

Come on Bill, you can do it.

[TonyDtorch]

Come on Bill, you can do it.

I would love to hear your justification of the original O.J. trial ?

[Oldgator73]

I would love to hear your justification of the original O.J. trial ?

Justification for the verdict?

[TonyDtorch]

Justification for the verdict?

that will work

It's probably going to be the same explanation as Clintons.....but what about truth and justice for all.

[Oldgator73]

that will work

It's probably going to be the same explanation as Clintons.....but what about truth and justice for all.

Not sure you have the stomach for this......OJ was guilty as hell. The DA's office did a terrible job. He got away with murder then and he sweet talked the parole  board and lied his a$$ off and walked out of prison today. If he would have acted that good in the Towering Inferno it probably would have won some awards.

[TonyDtorch]

Yes...Then he would have had every exemption from the law .....Black,  Sports star,  Wealthy,  Liberal.... and a Hollywood star.

Peace...I'm out.


(Clinton was guilty as hell too)

[Oldgator73]

Yes...Then he would have had every exemption from the law .....Black,  Sports star,  Wealthy,  Liberal.... and a Hollywood star.

Peace...I'm out.

Bye Felecia.

[TonyDtorch]

I hope I didn't ruin your giddy...

[Oldgator73]

Nah, my giddy's good. Got to mow the yard though which means I have to go to Autozone and get a new battery for the tractor. That might make some of my giddy giddy up and go.

[Kevin Means]

Not sure you have the stomach for this......OJ was guilty as hell. The DA's office did a terrible job. He got away with murder then and he sweet talked the parole  board and lied his a$$ off and walked out of prison today. If he would have acted that good in the Towering Inferno it probably would have won some awards.

Don't worry... he'll be back in jail soon enough - it's just a matter of time. Unfortunately, someone will be victimized in the process. He's no longer a sports "hero" worshipped by throngs of fans with distorted values, who were willing to overlook his criminal and violent behavior for the sake of his athletic abilities. He is who he has always been... just another dirt bag. (I'll bet he doesn't even own an RV)

Kev

[Oldgator73]

Back to what Tom originally posted: I was not born in the 30's or 40's. 1951. But we did many of the things mentioned in the Tom's post. My Dad was a lineman for the IBEW. We didn't take vacations since he didn't get paid unless he worked-no paid vacations. But I don't think we missed them. We went out to eat occasionally at the S&S Cafereria. We lived 5 miles from the beach and often went. Florida has many lakes so we fished a lot. We played outside, like Tom mentioned, until the streetlights came one. The last day of school we put our school clothes away and wore shorts, no shoes or shirts until we went back to school. We played sandlot football and baseball. When we got tired of baseball we played Army using the bats as bazookas and the balls as hand granades. On Saturdays Mom would drop me off at the movies with a quarter. Enough to get me in and buy popcorn and a soda. After the movie I would walk across the street to me cousins gas station. He had the nickel coke machine and those little oatmeal cakes for another nickel. I won't bore you with all 21 years I lived at home. For us it was a good time to grow up. It took me a long time to realize that wasn't the case for all.

[Sprucegum]

You guys had street lights!?! I was a teenager before we got power.

 I can still remember the first time I spoke on a telephone; I held the receiver to my ear for a moment and my aunt yelled "you have to say something"   

[Oldgator73]

You guys had street lights!?! I was a teenager before we got power.

 I can still remember the first time I spoke on a telephone; I held the receiver to my ear for a moment and my aunt yelled "you have to say something"   

We lived on a dirt road. When they finally paved it everybody sat in their yards in lawn chairs. It was the entertainment of the month. We also had the mosquito fogger come around. All us kids would run behind the truck sniffing the fog.

[Tom and Margi]

I was raised in a company house on the Shell Oil pipeline and tank farm.  The highlight of our young lives was when they burned the sump (waste oil) and black clouds billowed into the sky.  We also dug "forts" in the desert (before water turned the western San Joaquin Valley of California into farmland and orchards) and promised to abandon the forts when/if a scorpion took residence.  (Usually, when.)  We had such freedom to play and explore back then.  Born in 1939.  We also were able to spend our summers with grandparents in the High Sierras.  Then, the forest was our playground.

[NY_Dutch]

I well remember being 8-12 years old and living next to large a large forest in upstate NY. My parents were fine with me making up a bunch of PB&J sandwiches, filling a bag with dog kibble, grabbing a small tarp and a book of matches, and heading off into the woods for several days at a time. The only requirement was that I had to take the family dog with me since they were sure she would come get one of them if needed.

Every summer, my older brother and sister and I were dropped off at our grandmother's small farm for a few weeks as soon as school let out in May, so we could help with planting and repairs. We went there again as well for harvest later on. One thing we really looked forward to while there was being allowed to go swimming in the farm pond after a hot, sweaty day in the fields. The thing we did not look forward to, was Saturday night baths when we all sat around in the coal stove warmed kitchen waiting for our turn in the large galvanized wash tub. As each of us bathed, the next in line would lug and pour the rinse water that was heating on the stove. Grandma, as the oldest, went first, then my brother and sister, leaving me as the youngest for last. Since there was no one following me, grandma brought my rinse water and then the two of us cleaned up the kitchen and hung out the two towels we had all used. Yep, those were the "good ole days"!

[TonyDtorch]

I still remember that cool fall night (a school night too). With the search lights dancing in the nighttime sky and at exactly 8 pm they unlocked the door at our local Chevrolet dealership and unveiled the all new 1963 Chevrolet Corvette StingRay. 

My friends and I rode our bikes there hours earlier trying to sneak a look at it through the edges of the covered windows.

got home late,  Mom was mad,  Dad understood.

 otherwise I remember 1963 as kind of the end of peace in America.