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https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/16/marcus-lemonis-if-youre-ok-with-what-trump-said-dont-shop-at-my-business.html

In a shocking move two days ago, the CEO of Camping World told CNBC in an interview that if people were OK with what President Donald Trump's response to the rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, that they should not shop in his businesses.   (:(

While I am still saddened by the political war that is still going on both sides of the isle so long after the election, it is remarkable that someone running a business with so much daily consumer contact would put their livelihood right in the cross-hairs of a firestorm.   ::)

Regardless of what anyone thinks about what is going on in the current political atmosphere today, to make a consumer that supports your business with their dollars make a choice between shopping at your business and their political beliefs is unbelievable.

It's like he has forgotten about half of the country that voted for Trump less than a year ago. With on line retailing taking over the market place, I would think that you would want to get as many people in your store as possible.  :o

After all, it's not like there are not other options for RV's, parts, and Good Sam services.
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I made this post to address the issue before someone else does. I am not making an opinion about my political point of view, that is not the point. I will not say weather I agree or disagree with whatever was said. Instead it's a comment about a major business choosing to alienate themselves from a portion of their customers.  Sad.

And I will not let this turn into a mud slinging contest.
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No worries there, political preferences aside, Camping world is overpriced on most everything they sell.....and shopping elsewhere online is much easier and cost effective.  But I agree, with the original post about not being a smart move at all from a business standpoint. 

Nothing like a political post to really screw things up around here. Better shut this down quick. (:( (:( (:( (:(

And as long as this thread doesn't turn into a political back and forth, no reason to shut it down
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No problem. Won't shop at CW anyway unless there is absolutely no other option. But, certainly won't buy a RV there. Been there, done that....never again!!

I used to be impressed with Lemonis and enjoyed watching "The Profit". But, at some point, it occurred to me that he needs to go home and fix his own business model
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I will take Marcus at his word.  My business there has been minimal anyway because of the pricing.  Hard to believe that a corporate executive would make that statement to his customers.  Sure didn't get much attention in the MSM.
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Sarge, it's worse than you think. I think its arrogance - Lemonis believes he can use his position as a bully pulpit because the consumers will come anyway as they believe they have no choice. While, as you mention, there actually is choice, he knows many consumers will come to CW, just as consumers go to Walmart, because it's easier than seeking out the "little guy" alternative. (I'm not targeting Walmart shoppers as I occasionally go there too.)


I know there are others on this forum that are satisfied CW customers, but I stopped shopping there awhile ago as I have not been satisfied with their service or prices. And this is irrespective of the CEO's political views, of which I could care less. Lemonis' commentary is analogous to actors and actresses who believe their eschelon means I should care about their political views, which I don't. I do watch their movies though.


And yes SeilerBird, this forum is not the place for political discussions, but that isn't Sarge's point
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 . Lemonis' commentary is analogous to actors and actresses who believe their eschelon means I should care about their political views, which I don't. I do watch their movies though.


And yes SeilerBird, this forum is not the place for political discussions, but that isn't Sarge's point

Most of my life I was not much on politics.  I could not remember what the left and the right stood for nor did I care.  I was in the military and politicking in the service is verboten.  You can vote but that's about it.  As for the Hollywood folks, I now find that it is difficult for me to watch the movies of some of the more obnoxious political actors.  One particular favorite really disappointed me with some of his political rants. I had watched one of his movies several times but I just stopped it during the last viewing because all I could think of was his politics.  I am really disheartened to see this country evolving into something that I never envisioned and it has taken about the last 30 years for this to happen.  Now that I am pretty late into my life I am almost happy that I will not be here to see what eventually happens to our great country.  I guess some call it progress but I call it slow destruction.  JMHO and I hope this thread is NOT shut down as long as political rants are not posted.  It is good to get a feeling for the thoughts of others with whom you share a common pursuit.
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"There's no doubt that there is probably not many consumers in this country today that are in favor of what has been said in the last couple days and if they are, quite frankly, don't shop at my business," said Lemonis, who is CEO of Camping World and host of CNBC's "The Profit."

He is a businessman first and foremost. With this comment I see him as playing to what he believes is the most popular political position in an effort to bring in business. Much the same as a used car lot putting up an inflatable uncle sam on the fourth of july so they give the impression of being more patriotic than the car lot down the street. 
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Sarge, although your post is not political in what you are trying to say, it very much is political as it brings forward a subject that is nothing other than political.  As such, I agree with Tom, it has no business on this Forum, there are plenty of Political Forums on which to voice your opinions.

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https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/16/marcus-lemonis-if-youre-ok-with-what-trump-said-dont-shop-at-my-business.html

In a shocking move two days ago, the CEO of Camping World told CNBC in an interview that if people were OK with what President Donald Trump's response to the rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, that they should not shop in his businesses.   (:(

While I am still saddened by the political war that is still going on both sides of the isle so long after the election, it is remarkable that someone running a business with so much daily consumer contact would put their livelihood right in the cross-hairs of a firestorm.   ::)


Regardless of what anyone thinks about what is going on in the current political atmosphere today, to make a consumer that supports your business with their dollars make a choice between shopping at your business and their political beliefs is unbelievable.

It's like he has forgotten about half of the country that voted for Trump less than a year ago. With on line retailing taking over the market place, I would think that you would want to get as many people in your store as possible.  :o

After all, it's not like there are not other options for RV's, parts, and Good Sam services.
I do not consider this post political unless you make it so. Sarge was sharing a news report, nothing more. If others turn it political then it is on you.
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He is a businessman first and foremost. With this comment I see him as playing to what he believes is the most popular political position in an effort to bring in business. Much the same as a used car lot putting up an inflatable uncle sam on the fourth of july so they give the impression of being more patriotic than the car lot down the street.


Exactly. He says what he thinks will bring people in the door, and/or will raise his business valuation. Whether or not he actually believes it.
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I am not taking a political stand on either side of the issue. My point is that anyone that is in a position to control such a large public owned corporation (listed in the stock market) to tell a portion of their customers "don't bring me your business"  is nuts. 

Lemonis' commentary is analogous to actors and actresses who believe their eschelon means I should care about their political views, which I don't.

And yes SeilerBird, this forum is not the place for political discussions, but that isn't Sarge's point

Lemonis' point goes even further than that. At least actors don't say "if you don't agree with me, don't go to see my movie".   Incredible.
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Exactly. He says what he thinks will bring people in the door, and/or will raise his business valuation. Whether or not he actually believes it.

He must not be the sharpest tool in the drawer then, to alienate approx. half the population of the U.S. that votes.  That, to me, is just not good business sense!  But the good news for him is that he didn't lose me as a customer.  C.W. screwed me over years ago on an awning and the installation of it (I was totally green at the time and didn't know any better), so pretty much C.W. can have their overpriced items, arrogant workers (I know, not all of them), and try to survive in a world where more and more folks are buying their products after doing internet searches for pricing and customer service allstars.  Do let the door hit you in the hiney on the way out!
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He is a businessman first and foremost. With this comment I see him as playing to what he believes is the most popular political position in an effort to bring in business.

I wonder how many share holders have contacted him.   :o ::)
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I truly believe that everyone is entitled to their own opinion about most anything. But to refuse business? Shareholders can't be happy about that idea.
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Politics aside, Camping World has always been my vendor of last resort.  Their prices are outrageous, if you sell your address to them for the 10% member discount their prices are still higher than other sources and then they inundate you with junk mail from them, Good Sam, RV insurance offers and whatever else the Affinity Group can come up with.

And don't get me started on their service department.  My "favorite" experience was when I had them install a set of leveling jacks on a motorhome.  Not only did they botch the installation (fortunately HWH corrected the mistakes as a goodwill gesture when I stopped by their factory several months later) but while the RV was up on the lift the service manager carved out a piece of rubber from one of the sway bar bushings and used it as a prop to try to sell me new bushings at an additional cost of several hundred dollars.

His sales pitch was the sway bar was all that was holding the rear axle in place.

I pointed to the two hefty sets of leaf springs attached to the axle and asked him to explain what they did.  He walked away with a disgusted look on his face.
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Assuming we take him at his word and do not shop at his businesses, we would not ask for GS discounts at CGs or use our Flying J cards. Frankly, I have been using other discounts at CGs lately because I want to get away from so many cards in my Billfold. Taking the advice from many of you, I have been fueling up at stations off the hiway to save on fuel costs. I think Loomis gave us good advice.
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I cannot say if the post was political or not. I don't know Sarge's political leanings and to my knowledge he did not divulge them. As to a business publicly announcing their political beliefs, I feel it is not good business sense. Having said that, I am glad some businesses do so. It gives me a window into what is in their heart. There are some restaurants, businesses and products that I used to enjoy but no longer eat, patronize or buy because of their public political stance. As for Camping World, I cannot remember ever being in one. I have not heard good things about CW on this forum so I doubt I will shop there.

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I don't recall Marty (SargeW) taking a political stand in any public or private message here, including this topic.
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Sarge, although your post is not political in what you are trying to say, it very much is political as it brings forward a subject that is nothing other than political.  As such, I agree with Tom, it has no business on this Forum, there are plenty of Political Forums on which to voice your opinions.

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I have to disagree Ed.  The point has nothing to do with politics if you view it as a CEO saying "If you don't agree with me - take a hike."  That could be made on any point but when the highest officer of a company tells you that you either agree with him or leave it has to be recognized as coming from a person who may not be the best to lead that company.  I think the saying goes, "The customer is always right."  I don't think we need to add "as long as the customer agrees with the CEO."

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    I am glad that this string, so far, has remained civil, and as I said, Marty did not present it as political.  The fact remains, the whole basis of the CEO's decision was politically based.  It is no different than him saying that he won't serve African Americans, Aboriginals, Asian, Gays or any other minority. 

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I truly believe that everyone is entitled to their own opinion about most anything. But to refuse business? Shareholders can't be happy about that idea.
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I truly believe that everyone is entitled to their own opinion about most anything. But to refuse business? Shareholders can't be happy about that idea.

What did I miss?  Has he setup a poll question at the front door where if you don't pass you don't get in? I heard him say it as a choice for the consumer not to shop there if they disagree with his statement. The interview was really about the council and those on it distancing themselves from the President.

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I am NOT trying to turn this into a pro gun/anti gun direction, but I treat businesses that have the sign on their doors that show a gun in a circle with a red slash through it, the exact same way.  They are telling me that they don't want my business if I am a CCW, and I will oblige them with no questions ask.  Please, do not take this as any kind of gun/anti gun argument, it is strictly for reference on how corporate (and sometimes privately owned businesses) drive customers away because of policy.  It's their right to do so, but it's also my right to not patronize them or use their services.......not very smart from a business standpoint in my opinion.
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Is CW and Good Sam headed by the same guy, Lemonis? I believe they are affiliated and I wonder if he is speaking for his entire empire, parts, service, sales and GS?

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I am NOT trying to turn this into a pro gun/anti gun direction, but I treat businesses that have the sign on their doors that show a gun in a circle with a red slash through it, the exact same way.  They are telling me that they don't want my business if I am a CCW, and I will oblige them with no questions ask.  Please, do not take this as any kind of gun/anti gun argument, it is strictly for reference on how corporate (and sometimes privately owned businesses) drive customers away because of policy.  It's their right to do so, but it's also my right to not patronize them or use their services.......not very smart from a business standpoint in my opinion.


They are prohibiting you from entering with the no gun sign by law. Camping World does not have a sign up "No Trump Supporters Allowed".  You are not prohibited from entering any Camping World even if you disagree with him. But if he has made you angry feel free not to go there is all he is saying.

There is no parallel between the two.  Camping world stock will do just fine after this statement. Maybe a little bump but they can handle a little bump if any.

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Thanks to all that understand my post. I didn't make the post for shock value, or to make a political opinion. Lemonis heads a company that for the most part, makes a living off of RV's and the people that own and drive them. Camping World, Good Sam road side assistance, Good Sam RV park ratings and discounts, Good Sam RV loans and who knows what else. This is an RV web site, and thus any of us (me included) may or will use a product, service, or relationship with his company.  He just told me if I don't think like him, he doesn't want my business.  Wow, really? 

About the only person I share any opinions on sensitive topics with is my wife. I spent most of my adult life listening to people have heated arguments that ended badly. I have no interest in participating in them anymore. The only reason this is relevant is because we are all RV'ers.  You can make up your own mind. 
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They are prohibiting you from entering with the no gun sign by law. Camping World does not have a sign up "No Trump Supporters Allowed".  You are not prohibited from entering any Camping World even if you disagree with him. But if he has made you angry feel free not to go there is all he is saying.

There is no parallel between the two.  Camping world stock will do just fine after this statement. Maybe a little bump but they can handle a little bump if any.

That  may be true, but when a businessman says don't shop at his business because you agree with someone he doesn't agree with is pretty stupid in my opinion.
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Funny, all the posts over on their forum about it have disappeared.  Think there is collusion over there?

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That was pretty much my my opinion. I don't really care if he disagrees with everything I believe. I won't lose any sleep over it.  But to come out to the media and say anyone that doesn't agree with what I think shouldn't come into his business. Wow, I used to think he was a pretty smart guy. I guess not so much.

Funny, all the posts over on their forum about it have disappeared.  Think there is collusion over there?

Wow, really? Now that's just funny right there!
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They are prohibiting you from entering with the no gun sign by law. Camping World does not have a sign up "No Trump Supporters Allowed".  You are not prohibited from entering any Camping World even if you disagree with him. But if he has made you angry feel free not to go there is all he is saying.

There is no parallel between the two.  Camping world stock will do just fine after this statement. Maybe a little bump but they can handle a little bump if any.

You missed the entire point of my post......Corp policy/leadership says and does things that drive away customers sometimes......very simple!

P.S......And a side note.....in some states the no gun sign doesn't prohibit you from entering, but you must leave if asked by the owners or management.  And the bottom line is if you are Concealed properly, they would never know that you are carrying.  You are only breaking the law if you refuse to leave after being asked to.  And the penalty for not doing so varies from state to state.
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Oh good, we have transitioned from politics to guns. We need someone to bring up god for the hat trick.

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Funny, all the posts over on their forum about it have disappeared.  Think there is collusion over there?

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Oh good, we have transitioned from politics to guns. We need someone to bring up god for the hat trick.
Isn't the word 'god' supposed to be capitalized ?    now the Grammar police are coming... :)
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I cannot say if the post was political or not. I don't know Sarge's political leanings and to my knowledge he did not divulge them. As to a business publicly announcing their political beliefs, I feel it is not good business sense. Having said that, I am glad some businesses do so. It gives me a window into what is in their heart. There are some restaurants, businesses and products that I used to enjoy but no longer eat, patronize or buy because of their public political stance. As for Camping World, I cannot remember ever being in one. I have not heard good things about CW on this forum so I doubt I will shop there.

To clarify a bit as to what I said above; the CW CEO said if you support Neo Nazis, the KKK or White Supremacy you are not welcome in his establishments. Of course you would have to outwardly display your support of these groups for anyone to know you did. I don't see this as a political statement. I see it as a moral statement. I agree with him. I rescind my earlier statement about not shopping at CW. I might find one in the near future and buy a little something.

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Isn't the word 'god' supposed to be capitalized ?    now the Grammar police are coming... :)

Not the word god. But the name God, yes.

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Not the word god. But the name God, yes.

I guess my grammar was also bad.......( told you)

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I don't spend money at businesses that hire "Undocumented Immigrants"..

I'm a big believer in voting with my wallet.
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Well then you must not eat any vegetables or fruits unless you grow them yourself.

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Oh good, we have transitioned from politics to guns. We need someone to bring up god for the hat trick.

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Most of my life I was not much on politics.  I could not remember what the left and the right stood for nor did I care.  I was in the military and politicking in the service is verboten.  You can vote but that's about it.  As for the Hollywood folks, I now find that it is difficult for me to watch the movies of some of the more obnoxious political actors.  One particular favorite really disappointed me with some of his political rants. I had watched one of his movies several times but I just stopped it during the last viewing because all I could think of was his politics.  I am really disheartened to see this country evolving into something that I never envisioned and it has taken about the last 30 years for this to happen.  Now that I am pretty late into my life I am almost happy that I will not be here to see what eventually happens to our great country.  I guess some call it progress but I call it slow destruction.  JMHO and I hope this thread is NOT shut down as long as political rants are not posted.  It is good to get a feeling for the thoughts of others with whom you share a common pursuit.

This pretty much sums it up for me as well, except I was never in the military.
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I agree. As long as the post revolve around RV related opinions, and how they effect us in the RV community, it will not be shut down. Most of us don't care about what the political leaning are.  If it effects me as an RV'er, then I care.  This is about informing the community about things that concern them and their day to day living requirements.
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Oh good, we have transitioned from politics to guns. We need someone to bring up god for the hat trick.



If someone starts talking about their invisible friend.........that would be a negative hat trick :P :P
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I totally get your point, Marty.  As a business owner myself, I have clients all over the political spectrum, but I keep my political views to myself so as to not alienate any clients.  This is just smart business sense.  I really don't get it at all.


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I agree Steve, I was in that position once as well. I was once in the construction industry, concrete contractor.  I never cared  one bit about a customers personal politics. I provided a service, they needed the results. I didn't have to like everyone I worked for, that wasn't an requirement.  I did a good job, they paid a fair price. I always believed that commerce worked that way.
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If someone starts talking about their invisible friend.........that would be a negative hat trick :P :P

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I agree Steve, I was in that position once as well. I was once in the construction industry, concrete contractor.  I never cared  one bit about a customers personal politics. I provided a service, they needed the results. I didn't have to like everyone I worked for, that wasn't an requirement.  I did a good job, they paid a fair price. I always believed that commerce worked that way.

If was as simple as politics I would agree with you. But when it goes beyond politics into out and out hate, Neo Nazis, KKK, White Supremacy and any other hate groups, I would have to decline to do business with them. I have to look my family in the eye everyday.

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Just because he's a CEO doesn't mean he's the brightest person there or even a good business person.  I've been hearing a lot of dumb comments recently from CEOs who should know better than to put personal opinions above their company and its shareholders.

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Thoughts on the original post...

1) I agree with Sarge that doing this is a very poor business decision. However,

2) Regardless of how many people voted for Trump in the election, his approval rating has consistently dropped to the low 30's since the election and this is something that Lemonis may be taking into consideration. He may figure he's not going to alienate half of the population, but instead, only 30-35%, and

3) He recently stated, and it was covered by this forum, on a cable news network that he doesn't consider himself an RV salesman or even the owner of retail store operations. Instead, he considers himself to be an insurance salesman, wanting to gain the majority of his income from insurance sales through Good Sam. So if he alienates CW shoppers, he probably doesn't care.

But it's still a bad business move to alienate any number of customers regardless of your political opinions.
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Thoughts on the original post...

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2) Regardless of how many people voted for Trump in the election, his approval rating has consistently dropped to the low 30's since the election and this is something that Lemonis may be taking into consideration. He may figure he's not going to alienate half of the population, but instead, only 30-35%,


Not sure about this point John. If you consider the electorate as a whole your 30-35 percent may be accurate but his business appeals to not the entire population but to a segment that is probably a bit more affluent (just a bit)   I have never thought much of approval ratings (polls) since they are notorious for being inaccurate and also consider that the same ratings of Congress in general and of it's individual party leaders is much much lower - generally in the 15-18 percent range.  In any case, as you said, it is a super poor business decision.

 I have managed to resist all of his insurance offerings and usually the daily mailings line the bottom of the garbage can.  Once I bought a 3 year membership and was receiving mailings to renew just 3 months after my membership started.  All in all, I have used CW for some purchases I could not find elsewhere but now have enough outlets that I can dismiss them entirely.

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I wonder if he happened to actually be in a store, and a person walked in to buy stuff for their RV that they just parked outside....but that person was wearing a trump supporting T-shirt...... maybe even one that also supported the NRA just for goo measure.....would he ask that person to face to face leave his store?
My bet, he would not.

Regardless, thanks for sharing this Sarge.  I'm glad to know about it.
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I think the majority of posters here have grossly missed the point of what the CW CEO said: ""There's no doubt that there is probably not many consumers in this country today that are in favor of what has been said in the last couple days and if they are, quite frankly, don't shop at my business," said Lemonis, who is CEO of Camping World and host of CNBC's "The Profit." this is not a political statement. This is a denouncement of Neo Nazis, the KKK, and White Supremacy. He is saying if you support these groups, if you align yourself with these groups he does not need your business. Nothing political about it. I think most of you trying to make it political.

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How many times have you seen the sign below in stores and restaurants? Is what Marcus said all that different?

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How many times have you seen the sign below in stores and restaurants? Is what Marcus said all that different?

The problem with that sign is it is illegal now. There are certain reasons Service can be refused. No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service is a health issue. Someone that is disruptive, drunk, a danger to others in the store, etc can be refused service. But to put a sign up with the blanket statement like that is no longer legal. What Marcus was alluding to was if you agree with trump's support of  hate groups he would rather you take your business elsewhere. Bravo to him for taking a stance against hate. And to make this about RV'ing...anybody camping this weekend?

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I agree. As long as the post revolve around RV related opinions, and how they effect us in the RV community, it will not be shut down. Most of us don't care about what the political leaning are.  If it effects me as an RV'er, then I care.  This is about informing the community about things that concern them and their day to day living requirements.

What it effects in regard to RVing, is the Economy.. I won't bother going into great detail but it also affects camground fees.. Since T.Rump has defunded the Forest Service they have not choice but to raise rates.   There are many other ways he can affect our life as well.. So it is an RVing issue.

That said.. As I said I support Camping world in this.. but.. I'll still look for a better deal before I shop there.   (See Economy in the previous paragraph).

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Lemonis is CEO of camping world, but he's also an entertainment celebrity (Notice that I intentionally used the term "entertainment", not "media" or "news".)
To an entertainment celebrity, exposure is all-important. Being well-known is what gets you new gigs and fatter contracts. That's why you see so many of these types making outrageous public statements and performing high-profile actions. Nothing more.
So Lemonis has two full-time jobs, celebrity and CEO, and he's made the (my opinion) mistake of equating what's good for his celebtrity career with what's good for Camping World. I believe that he's wrong. Now the Camping World board will have to decide whether the spotlight he's placed on the company is in their interest or not.
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What it effects in regard to RVing, is the Economy.. I won't bother going into great detail but it also affects camground fees.. Since T.Rump has defunded the Forest Service they have not choice but to raise rates.   There are many other ways he can affect our life as well.. So it is an RVing issue.

That said.. As I said I support Camping world in this.. but.. I'll still look for a better deal before I shop there.   (See Economy in the previous paragraph).

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Lemonis is CEO of camping world, but he's also an entertainment celebrity (Notice that I intentionally used the term "entertainment", not "media" or "news".)
To an entertainment celebrity, exposure is all-important. Being well-known is what gets you new gigs and fatter contracts. That's why you see so many of these types making outrageous public statements and performing high-profile actions. Nothing more.
So Lemonis has two full-time jobs, celebrity and CEO, and he's made the (my opinion) mistake of equating what's good for his celebtrity career with what's good for Camping World. I believe that he's wrong. Now the Camping World board will have to decide whether the spotlight he's placed on the company is in their interest or not.

So you think he is wrong in denouncing racism and hate? Interesting view.

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I think the majority of posters here have grossly missed the point of what the CW CEO said: ""There's no doubt that there is probably not many consumers in this country today that are in favor of what has been said in the last couple days and if they are, quite frankly, don't shop at my business," said Lemonis, who is CEO of Camping World and host of CNBC's "The Profit."

Oldgator thanks for posting what Lemonis actually said to CNBC.  I've listened to that interview at least a half dozen times and nowhere did I hear Lemonis say that Trump supporters should not shop at his businesses.  CNBC twisted what Lemonis said. 

Here's the link that Sarge posted.  Listen for yourself but first you have to get beyond CNBC's headline.  https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/16/marcus-lemonis-if-youre-ok-with-what-trump-said-dont-shop-at-my-business.html

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I think the majority of posters here have grossly missed the point of what the CW CEO said: ""There's no doubt that there is probably not many consumers in this country today that are in favor of what has been said in the last couple days and if they are, quite frankly, don't shop at my business," said Lemonis, who is CEO of Camping World and host of CNBC's "The Profit." this is not a political statement. This is a denouncement of Neo Nazis, the KKK, and White Supremacy. He is saying if you support these groups, if you align yourself with these groups he does not need your business. Nothing political about it. I think most of you trying to make it political.

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Maybe naive, but think the media seems to have again distorted what was ment on both sides.  Still believe in America and agree CEOs should not make such comments.   CW still dropped another notch if that is possible.
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Trump's name is in the title of this thread and the article linked to paints our great leader in a bad light but this thread is not about politics but about a CEO of CW? The remarks sure look like it is a political to me.  The title or the thread should have been something like "CW CEO disallows hate group supporters". Trump should not have been named. He has nothing to do with the story. But putting his name in the title attracts people like flies to honey. And now Obama has been dragged into it. I am sure glad this thread is not political. ::)
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The problem with that sign is it is illegal now. There are certain reasons Service can be refused.

You are wrong about that....The law is,  a business can refuse service for "ANY" reason...

a private business is not required by law to "Serve" anyone they don't want to.
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You are wrong about that....The law is,  a business can refuse service for "ANY" reason...

a private business is not required by law to "Serve" anyone they don't want to.

Tell that to the owners of the bakery who refused to make a wedding cake for a gay couple wanting to get married. It wasn't because they were gay, it was because marriage of the same sex was against their religious beliefs. They were being sued.
Lower courts had ruled that Jack Phillips, the owner of Masterpiece Cakeshop, had violated Colorado’s public accommodations law, which prohibits refusing service to customers based on factors such as race, sex, marital status or sexual orientation.

It is now on the way to the Supreme Court.
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which prohibits refusing service to customers based on factors such as race, sex, marital status or sexual orientation.

It is now on the way to the Supreme Court.

The secret is you do not need to disclose the reason you are refusing service.

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You are wrong about that....The law is,  a business can refuse service for "ANY" reason...

a private business is not required by law to "Serve" anyone they don't want to.

You are going to have to cite some references on that. Tell that to the bakers that refused to bake wedding cakes for gay couples. Are you saying a business can deny service to someone because they are black? Or white? Or Mexican? Or Chinese? Or own an RV? (See, I made it about RVing). I would posit sir, that you are horribly ignorant of the law.

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The secret is you do not need to disclose the reason you are refusing service.

WRONG! (Yes I am yelling). A business cannot just arbitrarily say " I am not serving you".

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Tell that to the bakers that refused to bake wedding cakes for gay couples.

Huge echoe in here.   :o ::) ;)
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WRONG! (Yes I am yelling). A business cannot just arbitrarily say " I am not serving you".

Yes they can.   If someone comes in to my business and I'm in a bad mood I do not need to serve them.

No law can make me do business if I don't want to. Camping World could ask me to leave if I have a Swastika on my hat. They have no proof that I am a member of any hate group..... but they can ask me to leave their private property if they want to.

You do not have a constitutional right to purchase goods from a private business.   As the sign hanging on every business door says " We have the right to refuse service to anyone".

It is illegal to discriminate against people....but you can refuse service you if don't like them.

 I could put a sign up in my business that says "We refuse to serve Snowflakes" and there is nothing you can do about it... and If you argue about it with me I can ask you to leave my property....:)
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I'm curious ... of the people who replied to the post, how many listened, I mean really heard, the interview and gave it some thought before they replied to the post.  Be honest. 
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I'm curious ... of the people who replied to the post, how many listened, I mean really heard, the interview and gave it some thought before they replied to the post.  Be honest.
I didn't because I am not interested in politics. Nothing but liars.
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If someone comes in to my business and I'm in a bad mood I do not need to serve them.

No law can make me do business if I don't want to.  just like Camping World could ask me to leave if I have a "Make America Great Again" hat on. They have no proof that I am a member of the KKK..... but they can ask me to leave their private property if they want to.

You do not have a constitutional right to purchase goods from a private business.   As the sign hanging on ever business door says " We have the right to refuse service to anyone"

Where are you getting your information from? You need to do some research. You are clearly not educated in the rules surrounding business licenses.

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I'm curious ... of the people who replied to the post, how many listened, I mean really heard, the interview and gave it some thought before they replied to the post.  Be honest.

Before my first post I did not. I went back and read the interview. That's when I realized this was not political but about supporting hate/racist groups.

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I agree.  I think this topic has run its course.

Agree.
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And I just now got back to it. Thanks to Scott for locking it for me.  The point was made, opinions were voiced. Everyone can make their own decisions. 
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