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mn blue skies II

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Re: New Truck Question
« Reply #30 on: August 23, 2017, 09:38:25 PM »
Have you looked  at the ram trucks at all?  a 2500 with the diesel will pull most 5th wheels if you decide to move up. I had a 1500 hemi to tow a 22ft north trail.  should have gotten a bigger truck because DW and I fell in love with a 5er,  needed to up grade to the diesel.

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Re: New Truck Question
« Reply #31 on: August 23, 2017, 09:43:23 PM »
Have you looked  at the ram trucks at all?  a 2500 with the diesel will pull most 5th wheels if you decide to move up. I had a 1500 hemi to tow a 22ft north trail.  should have gotten a bigger truck because DW and I fell in love with a 5er,  needed to up grade to the diesel.

A Ram 2500 along with any 2500 is still limited in its payload (5er pin wieght ) great for a TT but not a 5er
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Re: New Truck Question
« Reply #32 on: August 23, 2017, 10:53:21 PM »
A Ram 2500 along with any 2500 is still limited in its payload (5er pin wieght ) great for a TT but not a 5er

I guess they don't make trucks the way they used to. Back when we were fulltiming, 1998-2004, we had a Dodge 2500 single cab 2wd with 5.9 Cummins, 5 speed standard, DANA 80 rear end. I added a PAC brake, Jake break whatever you want to call it. Payload was rated at 3900#. I had no problem pulling our 36', triple slide, triple axle 5th wheel. When I hooked up the trucks rear end didn't budge an inch. So, are the trucks today not as strong as they used to be? And why do I see so many folks with 4wd trucks (I have one because they did not have a 2wd on the lot).
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Re: New Truck Question
« Reply #33 on: August 23, 2017, 11:27:41 PM »
 Perhaps it's the lawyers and liability issues making them underrate them.
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Re: New Truck Question
« Reply #34 on: August 24, 2017, 12:14:54 AM »
I own a 2015 F-150 5.0l 3.31 axle super crew. I have put 88,000 miles on it already without any problems. I pull a Sporttrek 320 VIK with with no issues at all. Truck has great power and goes over 300 miles with the 36 gallon extended range fuel tank.

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steveblonde

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Re: New Truck Question
« Reply #35 on: August 24, 2017, 05:01:34 AM »
I guess they don't make trucks the way they used to. Back when we were fulltiming, 1998-2004, we had a Dodge 2500 single cab 2wd with 5.9 Cummins, 5 speed standard, DANA 80 rear end. I added a PAC brake, Jake break whatever you want to call it. Payload was rated at 3900#. I had no problem pulling our 36', triple slide, triple axle 5th wheel. When I hooked up the trucks rear end didn't budge an inch. So, are the trucks today not as strong as they used to be? And why do I see so many folks with 4wd trucks (I have one because they did not have a 2wd on the lot).

they still do make them like that BUT you have to order it and they are very rare breeds most trucks today are crew cabs 4x4 loaded with features etc etc all things that take away from payload

configure one you will see
https://www.ramtrucks.com/en/towing_guide/

actual payload is ALWAYS lower than what you will see on the website too because of options that are added
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Re: New Truck Question
« Reply #36 on: August 24, 2017, 05:42:12 AM »
Have you looked  at the ram trucks at all?  a 2500 with the diesel will pull most 5th wheels if you decide to move up. I had a 1500 hemi to tow a 22ft north trail.  should have gotten a bigger truck because DW and I fell in love with a 5er,  needed to up grade to the diesel.

All 3/4 Ton truck's are greatly limited for towing 5vers, except for some of the smaller ones, and the ultra light type.  The biggest issue with them is twofold.  First, they are no more than 10K GVWR.  Secondly, their payloads are often in the 2K range +/- a bit.  Plan on somewhere around 2K if buying a crew cab with 4 wheel drive and diesel.  Obviously more if a gasser, 2 wheel drive regular cab.  So, to say that a 2500 with a diesel will pull most 5th wheelers is totally wrong.  Most of the time the 20% pin weight of the 5ver will overload the 3/4Ton truck pretty quickly, payload wise..
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Re: New Truck Question
« Reply #37 on: August 24, 2017, 05:45:08 AM »
they still do make them like that BUT you have to order it and they are very rare breeds most trucks today are crew cabs 4x4 loaded with features etc etc all things that take away from payload

configure one you will see
https://www.ramtrucks.com/en/towing_guide/

actual payload is ALWAYS lower than what you will see on the website too because of options that are added

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Re: New Truck Question
« Reply #38 on: August 24, 2017, 05:50:31 AM »
I guess they don't make trucks the way they used to. Back when we were fulltiming, 1998-2004, we had a Dodge 2500 single cab 2wd with 5.9 Cummins, 5 speed standard, DANA 80 rear end. I added a PAC brake, Jake break whatever you want to call it. Payload was rated at 3900#. I had no problem pulling our 36', triple slide, triple axle 5th wheel. When I hooked up the trucks rear end didn't budge an inch. So, are the trucks today not as strong as they used to be? And why do I see so many folks with 4wd trucks (I have one because they did not have a 2wd on the lot).

2wd & single cab is about the only way to get that much payload with a 3/4.
Most people today faint at the thought of not having an extended cab.

My 4wd F250 has a 3500# payload, but is a regular cab, and I'm good with it.
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Re: New Truck Question
« Reply #39 on: August 24, 2017, 05:54:40 AM »
Too bad the payload is only about 1100 lbs the interior is steller 

My 2015 Explorer has a payload of 1575#. Better than a bunch of 1/2 ton pickups.
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Re: New Truck Question
« Reply #40 on: August 24, 2017, 07:26:43 AM »
Just curious as to why you are not looking at another Tundra also?

The 5.7 is a gas hog, and it almost seems Toyota has given up on Trucks very little change from 2007 to now.  Mine has been very reliable.

mn blue skies II

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Re: New Truck Question
« Reply #41 on: August 24, 2017, 08:33:33 AM »
"And why do I see so many folks with 4wd trucks (I have one because they did not have a 2wd on the lot)."
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Re: New Truck Question
« Reply #42 on: August 24, 2017, 08:58:53 AM »
"And why do I see so many folks with 4wd trucks (I have one because they did not have a 2wd on the lot)."
  Minnesota

Probably a better question would be, why do we see so many 3/4 Ton truck owners pulling 5vers that have their truck's...OMG overloaded?  The short answer is this.
1.  They don't have a clue about towing capacities, GVWRs,  Axle weight ratings, Combined weight ratings, payload capacity for their truck.
2.  They don't care!  Someone told them that their truck would be just fine towing a particular trailer and they were willing  to accept that as the gospel truth, without researching the numbers for themselves...Lazy!
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Re: New Truck Question
« Reply #43 on: August 24, 2017, 09:27:04 AM »
I was at a campground a few weeks ago and there was a huge 5W parked behind a F250 extended cab.  It was a diesel, so I'm sure it had more then enough power, but can all but guarantee it would be overloaded.  I was eager to take a picture when they loaded it up to share, but they packed up while we were out.   :(

 

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