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Heli_av8tor

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Selecting New Satellite System for Dish Networt
« on: September 30, 2017, 08:32:47 PM »
I need to replace the obsolete satellite antenna on my coach and get more confused the more I research.

Here's what I'd like to accomplish:
1.  Receive Dish Network
2.  Roof mount but In-motion NOT required
3.  Simultaneously record two channels (may settle for one channel recording)
4.  Watch one channel (or recorded program) on one of two tv's
5.  Main tv is HDMI, bedroom tv signal fed by coax


How important is it to receive both east and west satellites?

We've been spoiled by TIVO on cable at home. Am I trying to accomplish too much?

All suggestions on antenna and receivers welcomed.

Thanks, Tom
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Re: Selecting New Satellite System for Dish Networt
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2017, 08:58:56 PM »
The roof mount antenna that will support all Dish receivers, including the newest 16 tuner Hopper 3 DVR, is the Winegard Trav'ler Dish version. The Trav'ler is a western arc only automatic dish, but it can be manually tuned to one of the eastern arc satellites, 61.5 I believe. Dish recently moved a bunch of primary channels to that satellite, so it's probably the one that would be used the most anyway if the western arc is not available. The downside to the Trav'ler is the $1250 price tag plus installation.
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Re: Selecting New Satellite System for Dish Networt
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2017, 07:43:28 AM »
The Trav'ler is an excellent choice, as NY Dutch said.  My experience is the Western Arc works well, at least as far as NYC area.  One problem may be the satellite may be so low in the sky, that trees and hills on the horizon may block the view of the satellite.

If you go with the Trav'ler, watch Amazon for sales. A couple or few times a year they have prices in the $1200 range. 
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Re: Selecting New Satellite System for Dish Networt
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2017, 08:11:12 AM »
Another vote for Trav'ler and I've installed mine twice (different rv's). It's a very straightforward installation. Note that dealers do not add to your tradein for satellite antennas so you might as well take it with you. Western arc works anywhere in the US; from  Bar Harbor ME to Key West to the west coast.

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Re: Selecting New Satellite System for Dish Networt
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2017, 11:22:37 AM »
We also had the Trav'ler installed  and along with the Dish hopper and joey can record two shows at a time and watch different channels. Have been happy with it other than having to replace the motor under warranty as it simply crapped out and would not stow or deploy properly. It's been about 4 months since the replacement and so far so good, but it was a major undertaking.
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Heli_av8tor

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Re: Selecting New Satellite System for Dish Networt
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2017, 07:52:16 PM »
Looks like the Winegard Trav'ler is the way to go.

Can i have the Hopper 3 and Joey installed in my home then transfer to the MH when traveling?

How do local channels work when traveling? Can I receive my home channels when in other parts of the country?
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Re: Selecting New Satellite System for Dish Networt
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2017, 08:14:15 PM »
Yes, you could take the Hopper & Joey from your home with you on the road. The Dish installer may not be willng to set up your RV installation though, but independent Dish dealers often will. You'll need to duplicate the home dish setup for your Trav'ler to use the Hopper 3, but that may be as easy as adding a Dish DPH42 switch to convert the Trav'ler LNB. You'll also need a Dish Solo Hub if you bring the Joey along. A Hopper 2 would only need a Dish Solo Node.

The Dish local channels are transmitted to relatively small geographical areas using "spot beam" antennas, meaning you'll lose them once you travel typically 100-300 miles from home, depending on just where your home is located in the spot beam pattern. To get the locals in you new location, you just call or chat online with Dish Customer Service and ask them to change your "service address", but not your "billing address", to the new location. In a few minutes, your program guide will update with the new local channels. There is no limit on how often you can change the service address. I do it daily at times, and have even done it twice in one day with no problems. Dish does offer a "distant network service" that allows you to receive the LA local channels nationwide, but you would lose your locals when at home.
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Re: Selecting New Satellite System for Dish Networt
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2017, 08:19:15 PM »
Another vote for Trav'ler and I've installed mine twice (different rv's). It's a very straightforward installation. Note that dealers do not add to your tradein for satellite antennas so you might as well take it with you. Western arc works anywhere in the US; from  Bar Harbor ME to Key West to the west coast.

Ernie

Yes, the western arc sats are reachable from most of the US, but there are two good reasons for also wanting eastern arc capability. One reason is when tree cover prevents a view of the western arc from your location, and another is that some eastern local stations are only available on the eastern arc sats now.
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Re: Selecting New Satellite System for Dish Networt
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2017, 08:31:45 PM »
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To get the locals in you new location, you just call or chat online with Dish Customer Service and ask them to change your "service address", but not your "billing address", to the new location. In a few minutes, your program guide will update with the new local channels.

Just to be clear, these are not your home locals, but rather the local stations for the area where you are camping.
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Re: Selecting New Satellite System for Dish Networt
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2017, 08:41:31 PM »
Just to be clear, these are not your home locals, but rather the local stations for the area where you are camping.

Exactly... Thanks for clarifying that!
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Re: Selecting New Satellite System for Dish Networt
« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2017, 01:10:00 AM »
Can i have the Hopper 3 and Joey installed in my home then transfer to the MH when traveling?

Yes, but your home install (using a portable dish) will probably use different equipment than what would be required for an RV:

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Re: Selecting New Satellite System for Dish Networt
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2017, 09:59:54 PM »
Newbies here. Just bought 01 Mountain Aire dp. No current satellite system.Very confusing to me. Not experienced with satellite tv. Dish site says not compatible with hopper 3. Wife likes to record multiple programs. Considering the Traveler but not sure what all I need. Wally? Hopper 3? Joey? would like to have 2 tvs capable of watching different channels and record also. Thanks, Donny

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Re: Selecting New Satellite System for Dish Networt
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2017, 10:35:46 PM »
The Dish version of the Trav'ler will work with the Hopper 3, although Dish may say they don't support it for RV use. The Trav'ler will need a slightly different setup than a typical residential installation, but it's not difficult. The LNB (the "eyes" on the dish arm) that comes with the Trav'ler is not compatible with a Hopper 3, but Dish has a switch (DPH42) that converts it to Hopper 3 compatibility.
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Re: Selecting New Satellite System for Dish Networt
« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2017, 09:16:14 AM »
Some of the best deals I've seen are at https://www.dishformyrv.com
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Re: Selecting New Satellite System for Dish Networt
« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2017, 11:49:12 AM »
They are $400 higher than I paid at PPL for the Travíler.
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Re: Selecting New Satellite System for Dish Networt
« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2017, 06:33:37 AM »
Amazon has them for $1256
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Re: Selecting New Satellite System for Dish Networt
« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2017, 02:58:55 PM »
They are $400 higher than I paid at PPL for the Travíler.
Hmmm. We got our Tailgater/Wally bundle for about $350.00 IIRC a year or so back when they had a sale going on.
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Re: Selecting New Satellite System for Dish Networt
« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2017, 07:18:19 PM »
Hmmm. We got our Tailgater/Wally bundle for about $350.00 IIRC a year or so back when they had a sale going on.

The Tailgater is an entirely different critter from the roof mounted Trav'ler referred to. The Tailgater is limited to only the basic Dish receivers like the Wally and older Solo series, while the Trav'ler works with every current Dish receiver/DVR model, including the newest 16 tuner Hopper 3.
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