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pppropertypaul

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Chassis Number
« on: October 18, 2017, 05:32:50 AM »
Hi I own a 1994 Rockwood Embassy, I am having trouble finding the Chassis number on the chassis itself, could anyone tell me where it is located please. The rv is on a spartan chassis.
Thank you in advance.

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Re: Chassis Number
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2017, 08:11:15 AM »
Suggest you call Spartan and ask them where they stamped it on a 1994 chassis.  https://www.spartanchassis.com/info/contact/contact.asp

There should be a VIN Id plate mounted so that it is visible through the windshield near the driver. Is that gone?
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pppropertypaul

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Re: Chassis Number
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2017, 12:15:46 PM »
Hi thank you

I will call Spartan thanks I have emailed them earlier. the plate is still in the cab but the mechanic says the inspection people want to see it on the chassis.

Thanks again

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Re: Chassis Number
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2017, 02:20:01 PM »
I got this reply from Spartan

The last 5 digits of the chassis VIN will be stamped on the frame above each of the wheel whells on the outside of the frame rail. If you need additional assistance, please let us know.

In case anyone needs the info

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Re: Chassis Number
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2017, 06:49:01 AM »
Hi thank you

I will call Spartan thanks I have emailed them earlier. the plate is still in the cab but the mechanic says the inspection people want to see it on the chassis.

Thanks again
Not sure what "inspection people" is/are.  The final VIN number for an RV is supplied by the manufacturer of the RV.  The chassis shipped from Ford, GM etc, has an "incomplete vehicle" VIN number.   Whatever VIN # and wherever the RV manufacturer put the VIN tag should be good enough for anyone.
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Re: Chassis Number
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2017, 06:57:35 AM »
Not sure what "inspection people" is/are. 

In states like Delaware, one drives through a state owned inspection station. In other states like Maryland and West Virginia, vehicle inspections are done a privately owned shop that has been certified by the state to do inspections. I know that Maryland thoroughly checks the vehicle from top to bottom. They pull the wheels and drums to check brakes etc. They even go as far to make sure the climate controls work correctly. They will check serial numbers where possible on everything on the vehicle.
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Re: Chassis Number
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2017, 07:30:40 AM »
In states like Delaware, one drives through a state owned inspection station. In other states like Maryland and West Virginia, vehicle inspections are done a privately owned shop that has been certified by the state to do inspections. I know that Maryland thoroughly checks the vehicle from top to bottom. They pull the wheels and drums to check brakes etc. They even go as far to make sure the climate controls work correctly. They will check serial numbers where possible on everything on the vehicle.
They really pull the wheels and check brakes on all private vehicles?  I have heard of commercial vehicles having that done.  That is a lot of labor to put into an inspection to pull the wheels.  Must be very, very expensive for the RV owner.   

But back to the VIN number, there is only one VIN number for RV's and that is what the RV mfg puts on.  Yes there may be some chassis VIN numbers, or chassis serial numbers, but the valid VIN is the one the RV mfg puts on. 
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TonyDtorch

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Re: Chassis Number
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2017, 07:45:20 AM »
I'd love it if a state inspection agency pulled the wheels off of my vehicle.  They are now liable if anything happens.

Any attorney would love to get in on that deep-pocket law suit.


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Re: Chassis Number
« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2017, 07:47:27 AM »
Here in NH we have to have our vehicles inspected every year. It's done at most of the services stations throughout the state. They check brakes, tires, wipers, horn, all lights, directional, steering linkages for wear, rust, exhaust for leaks, cracks in windshield and emissions. Cost about $40.00.
After seeing what cars look like in FL where there's no inspection it's scary. I think all states should do this.
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Re: Chassis Number
« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2017, 07:48:34 AM »
They really pull the wheels and check brakes on all private vehicles?
Must be very, very expensive for the RV owner.   

Yes, they pull wheels on private vehicles. In Maryland, the inspection is only done once at the transfer of the vehicle. It's good as long as the registration/title remains with the current owner. The only other time Maryland reinspects is when a LEO issues a ticket of equipment violation, such as broken glass, tires sticking out past the fenders, loud exhaust, etc.
Actually, it's not expensive. They charge a flat fee as determined by the state, at least in Maryland anyway.
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Re: Chassis Number
« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2017, 07:54:26 AM »
Here's a good site to explain Maryland's vehicle inspection:

https://www.youcanic.com/maryland-car-inspection-md-safety

A list of what is checked at bottom of page:

http://www.mva.maryland.gov/about-mva/info/58000ASE/58000-01T.htm
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Re: Chassis Number
« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2017, 08:00:06 AM »

After seeing what cars look like in FL where there's no inspection it's scary. I think all states should do this.

And there are no car safety inspections at all in the Great State of California either...

I believe our state legislators would view "Safety Inspections" as an unfair to our lower income residents. 
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Re: Chassis Number
« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2017, 08:14:56 AM »
Yes, they pull wheels on private vehicles.

So when they pull the brake drums off to inspect the brake shoes....they reinstall the wheel bearings and correctly set the bearing lash ?

I hope you get new cotter pins with that inspection ?
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Re: Chassis Number
« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2017, 08:19:49 AM »
So when they pull the brake drums off to inspect the brake shoes....they reinstall the wheel bearings,  and correctly set the bearing lash ?

I hope you get new cotter pins with that inspection ?

Yup. In NH, they'll pull one front and the opposite rear usually. They use to mark on the backside of your registration slip as to which wheels they inspected. Not sure if they still record that.
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Re: Chassis Number
« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2017, 08:23:42 AM »
I would love it if a wheel fell off on the way home.....I'd just lay there until my attorney tells me it's okay to get up.   8)

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Re: Chassis Number
« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2017, 08:27:18 AM »
I would love it if a wheel fell off on the way home.....I'd just lay there until my attorney tells me it's okay to get up.   8)

In my 60 years of being around cars and living in NH, I've never heard of that happening.
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Re: Chassis Number
« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2017, 08:39:00 AM »
After many years of required yearly inspections,, Utah has discontinued the practice.. Too many complaints about gouging by the inspection stations.>>>Dan
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Re: Chassis Number
« Reply #17 on: October 19, 2017, 08:39:22 AM »
In my 60 years of being around cars and living in NH, I've never heard of that happening.

 you have never seen a vehicle loose a wheel on the highway ?? 

    It happens.  and usually the last person that worked on the wheel is responsible.
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Re: Chassis Number
« Reply #18 on: October 19, 2017, 08:46:02 AM »
I would love it if a wheel fell off on the way home.....I'd just lay there until my attorney tells me it's okay to get up.   8)

Never heard of it happening around here either. It's not rocket science doing front wheel bearings. Back in my day, that was one of the first things an apprentice mechanic learned.
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Re: Chassis Number
« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2017, 08:51:33 AM »
you have never seen a vehicle loose a wheel on the highway ?? 

    It happens.  and usually the last person that worked on the wheel is responsible.

I was in a car one time and the lug nuts backed off on one wheel. No indication at all as far as vibration. This was a car registered in NY.

You're building a mountain out of a mold hill. It's no big deal and it keeps me and all the other motorists on the road much safer.
Can you imagine what it would be like if elevators or airplanes were never inspected.  This is no different IMHO.
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Re: Chassis Number
« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2017, 09:05:15 AM »
Florida also discontinued mechanical inspections quite a few years back. No evidence at all that it ever prevented accidents or saved lives.  Emissions inspections were continued for awhile in the big metro areas that had smog problems, but  cleaner running vehicles made that superfluous as well.
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Re: Chassis Number
« Reply #21 on: October 19, 2017, 09:33:05 AM »
I copied the following excerpt from this site:
https://www.autocare.org/BlogDetail.aspx?id=1511&blogid=251&gmssopc=1

Until recently, safety inspection programs have been pretty difficult to defend. There just was not enough data to demonstrate that they had a measurable safety benefit. However, in 2011, the Department of Transportation for the state of Pennsylvania completed a report that showed very clearly the importance of safety inspection to saving lives on the nation’s highways. The report, which was undertaken by Cambridge Systematics, Inc., concluded that Pennsylvania’s, as well as other vehicle safety inspection programs, are effective ways to reduce fatal crashes and save lives. Specifically the report stated that:

Nationally, vehicle safety inspection programs appear to be a significant factor in lowering fatal crashes;
Based on the model results, Pennsylvania can be expected to have between 115 and 169 fewer fatal crashes each year, corresponding to between 127 and 187 fewer fatalities each year than it would have if it did not have a vehicle safety inspection program; and,
The largest difference in reported vehicle failures at the scene of fatal crashes between states with programs and states without programs is for vehicles of three years of age or more
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Re: Chassis Number
« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2017, 05:10:46 PM »
Yes, they pull wheels on private vehicles. In Maryland, the inspection is only done once at the transfer of the vehicle. It's good as long as the registration/title remains with the current owner. The only other time Maryland reinspects is when a LEO issues a ticket of equipment violation, such as broken glass, tires sticking out past the fenders, loud exhaust, etc.
Actually, it's not expensive. They charge a flat fee as determined by the state, at least in Maryland anyway.
Here's a good site to explain Maryland's vehicle inspection:

https://www.youcanic.com/maryland-car-inspection-md-safety

A list of what is checked at bottom of page:

http://www.mva.maryland.gov/about-mva/info/58000ASE/58000-01T.htm

Interesting inspection process in Maryland.  As mentioned in the first link in the 2nd quote above, the process leaves a really large amount of interpretation of just what must be repaired.  Brakes and shocks come to mind and then there is the suspension.  These are some of the main rip off items repairs shops, especially car dealer, tell the consumers they need, when it is really not necessary.   

The repair shop has a large incentive to find things to repair.  Just the labor time to pull the wheels and inspect everything else is pretty significant.  Even the website mentions 1 1/2 hours for the inspection.  Another mention in the link is the cost to the auto owner is around $80-$100.  Labor at $125 an hour for 1.5 hours is about $180 and they only get $100 or less.  More incentive to find things wrong.

Pulling the wheels on a 20,000 to 40,000 pounds of RV is even more time consuming. 

 
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Re: Chassis Number
« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2017, 05:15:46 PM »
Back when brakes only lasted 25,000-30,000 miles inspections were more important.  Exhaust systems, mufflers, used to only last 20,000 to 30,000 miles.  Now days front brakes last about 100,000 and rear brakes close to 150,000, mufflers last 100,000 to 150,000 miles.  When I sold my 2002 Chevy Blazer at 160,000 miles it had the original muffler and exhaust.

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Re: Chassis Number
« Reply #24 on: October 21, 2017, 06:25:54 PM »
Never heard of it happening around here either. It's not rocket science doing front wheel bearings. Back in my day, that was one of the first things an apprentice mechanic learned.

I can only imagine the skill level and diligence required to be a state vehicle inspector.  It sounds kinda like an entry level position to me.

  Many of the working ASC mechanics at the larger repair shops are not good mechanics.   Most just rely on a computer to tell them what part to change.

Who's going to be responsible when that used wheel bearing seal they put back on starts leaking all over the brake shoes ?

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