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Bill N

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Camping World Claim
« on: October 18, 2017, 07:14:45 AM »
If any of you are baseball fans you will know that the league championships underway are being sponsored by Camping World (signs plastered on nearly every inch of the fences).  But I think they may be unfamiliar with the truth - or at least showing the ability to stretch it - when they announce that Camping World is the #1 Retailer of RVs SINCE 1966.  Do a little wikipedia search and you will see that is when the company was formed in a small store in Kentucky (IIRC).  I bought my first travel trailer in 1965 and joined Good Sam as a charter member in 1966 but it was many years before I ever heard of Camping World.  But who is to dispute some of the claims of Marcus Lemonis? Afterall business is business and shading the truth is part of it I guess.
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Re: Camping World Claim
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2017, 07:50:12 AM »
According to their Timeline, the first actual CW store was in 1973, but the retail store business began with a small RV parts & accessory store and campground in 1966.

http://www.campingworld.com/blog/post/celebrating-50-years-the-50-year-history-of-camping-world-and-good-sam/
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« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2017, 07:52:42 AM »
So they lied. It is the new normal in this country. :P
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Re: Camping World Claim
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2017, 08:18:02 AM »
So they lied. It is the new normal in this country. :P

You mean we now have Fake Advertising?....lol  I think that has been around since the first ad was published.
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Re: Camping World Claim
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2017, 08:31:32 AM »
Of course, the claim that they have been the largest RV seller since 1966 is patently false, but, and this is a big but, they have been in business since 1966 and they are the largest seller of RVs in the country. It's all in the way you say it.
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Re: Camping World Claim
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2017, 08:36:35 AM »
Well, since they were the only fairly large and dedicated RV store, since 1973 anyway, I think we could forgive some hyperbole. It is advertising, afterall.
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Re: Camping World Claim
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2017, 10:07:51 AM »
So they lied. It is the new normal in this country. :P


More like they Exagarated. or perhaps "Used alternate facts" as someone is fond of saying.

The company started in 1966 and is TODAY the largest retailer of RV's.. 

But then remember.. Ad Claims are often inflated, in fact Murphy's laws say to discount all ad claims by at least half, and salesmen's claims by another half (3/4 total)... Or so says the book.

Murphy by the way.. Was a woman, no matter what the book says.. She made Chowder.  Overall chowder.
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« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2017, 10:20:04 AM »

Murphy by the way.. Was a woman, no matter what the book says.. She made Chowder.  Overall chowder.

http://www.murphys-laws.com/murphy/murphy-true.html
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Re: Camping World Claim
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2017, 10:44:06 AM »
Doesn't matter, not allowed to shop there.
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« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2017, 11:10:39 AM »
Rene you missed the joke:

http://lyricsplayground.com/alpha/songs/m/mrsmurphyschowder.shtml

So did I, Tom, until I went to your link. It says traditional children's song, but (maybe I'm too old) I've never encountered it before this. Besides, Murphy was an optimist, not a cook...  8) :o ::) ;D
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« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2017, 11:11:09 AM »
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« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2017, 12:08:06 PM »
I had a good friend, now deceased, who used to work at Affinity corporate offices. That is the company that owns Good Sam, Camping World, etc. He stated to me several times, that to whole object, that was always stressed was the "bottom line" before any other consideration.
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« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2017, 12:54:45 PM »
Oh Lord ......  I AM old enough to get the joke AND remember the song  Was not a children's song at the time. Just a nonsense song to lighten the mood.   JM2  YMMV
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« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2017, 01:08:07 PM »
Oh Lord ......  I AM old enough to get the joke AND remember the song  Was not a children's song at the time. Just a nonsense song to lighten the mood.   JM2  YMMV
I had a good friend, now deceased, who used to work at Affinity corporate offices. That is the company that owns Good Sam, Camping World, etc. He stated to me several times, that to whole object, that was always stressed was the "bottom line" before any other consideration.

Affinity Group was renamed to Good Sam Enterprises in 2011..
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« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2017, 01:24:18 PM »
Affinity Group was renamed to Good Sam Enterprises in 2011..

Right. When my friend worked there, it was Affinity. It appears things haven't changed much since then.
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« Reply #16 on: October 18, 2017, 01:43:14 PM »
Oh Lord ......  I AM old enough to get the joke AND remember the song  Was not a children's song at the time. Just a nonsense song to lighten the mood.   JM2  YMMV

I always thought the song to be an Irish drinking song.
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« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2017, 03:26:37 PM »
 Paul & Ann ....You are right.  Doesn't that lighten the mood ??  Family wasn't Irish ...but ...They did drink :o :o
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« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2017, 03:36:33 PM »
I used to work for Consolidated Freightways which was founded in 1929 by Leland James. In 1982 they started a subsidiary named Con-Way freight. In 1996 they spun CF out of the holding company as an employee owned business. Cf went bankrupt and out of business in 2002, so Con-Way stated on their website that they were founded in 1929 by Leland James.

A local bank here was started in 1970 when Illinois was a "unit' banking state, meaning that banks could not have more than one location, and could not be a subsidiary of another bank or holding company. The law also meant that there could never be dual directors or officers. The local bank was started by owners of another bank in a neighboring city, secretly (the ownership was someone else on paper, etc.). When all of those laws were repealed in the late 80's, early 90's, the two banks eventually merged in to one with the same name. They merged with the name of the newer bank. Now their website says they have been in operation since 1906.

Two classic examples of outright lies by business in the name of "there is no teeth in the FTC anymore, so we will do whatever we want" syndrome.
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« Reply #19 on: October 18, 2017, 05:55:53 PM »
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« Reply #20 on: October 18, 2017, 09:02:14 PM »
If any of you are baseball fans you will know that the league championships underway are being sponsored by Camping World (signs plastered on nearly every inch of the fences).  But I think they may be unfamiliar with the truth - or at least showing the ability to stretch it - when they announce that Camping World is the #1 Retailer of RVs SINCE 1966.  Do a little wikipedia search and you will see that is when the company was formed in a small store in Kentucky (IIRC).  I bought my first travel trailer in 1965 and joined Good Sam as a charter member in 1966 but it was many years before I ever heard of Camping World.  But who is to dispute some of the claims of Marcus Lemonis? Afterall business is business and shading the truth is part of it I guess.

Your disdain for Mr. Lemonis is is palpable.

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Re: Camping World Claim
« Reply #21 on: October 19, 2017, 09:40:07 AM »
Your disdain for Mr. Lemonis is is palpable.
My disdain for lies is palpable.  My degrees are all in business related areas and though they were 'back in the day' I don't recall any course where I was taught to lie through your teeth to sell a product.  I know it is done on a daily basis but Mr Lemonis is only one small example of it.  I realize that it is the advertising agency that creates the tag lines but the buck has to stop at the top and Marcus loves to tell us he IS the top.......lol

I do a lot of business with Amazon yet it is owned by a person who I think makes Marcus look like the second coming of Christ.  Sometimes you just have to close your eyes and buy where it is best for you.
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« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2017, 10:42:10 AM »
We have a vote of what any business does....whether it's Camping World or the NFL.

Vote with your wallet.
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« Reply #23 on: October 19, 2017, 10:51:13 AM »


I do a lot of business with Amazon yet it is owned by a person who I think makes Marcus look like the second coming of Christ. 

And he's worth 90 billion. Richer than Bill Gates
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« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2017, 10:57:27 AM »
And he's worth 90 billion. Richer than Bill Gates

That guy that raised the price of the AIDs drug by 5k % is a wealthy guy too.

He also had an MBA.
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« Reply #25 on: October 19, 2017, 10:59:54 AM »
That guy that raised the price of the AIDs drug by 5k % is a wealthy guy too.

He had an MBA.

At least with Camping World and Amazon their businesses are controlled by the laws of supply and demand.
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« Reply #26 on: October 19, 2017, 12:14:29 PM »
My disdain for lies is palpable. 

Interesting.

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« Reply #27 on: October 19, 2017, 12:19:48 PM »
And he's worth 90 billion. Richer than Bill Gates

For 2017 Gates is #1 with $89b and Bezos (Amazon) is at #3 with $72b.

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« Reply #28 on: October 19, 2017, 12:31:10 PM »
That guy that raised the price of the AIDs drug by 5k % is a wealthy guy too.

He also had an MBA.

There's a butt load of rich people. Bill Gates and Warren Buffet give more money away every year than some small countries entire budgets. Oprah Winfrey and donald trump are tied in the money department at just a little over $3b each. Winfrey also gives quite a bit away. I just read that a NFL lineman has given his entire season paycheck, a little over $2m, to charities for under privileged youth college funds. Last year Colin Kaepernick gave a million dollars to several charities. It's nice to hear about folks that have money that use some of it to help others.

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« Reply #29 on: October 19, 2017, 12:44:33 PM »
There's a butt load of rich people. Bill Gates and Warren Buffet give more money away every year than some small countries entire budgets. Oprah Winfrey and donald trump are tied in the money department at just a little over $3b each. Winfrey also gives quite a bit away. I just read that a NFL lineman has given his entire season paycheck, a little over $2m, to charities for under privileged youth college funds. Last year Colin Kaepernick gave a million dollars to several charities. It's nice to hear about folks that have money that use some of it to help others.

I agree.  It is my observation that there are two types of people when it comes to money.  Those that see money as a utility for the things that can be done with it, and those that see money  as an end unto itself.  It appears that that they worship money, and therefore money is their god, but as the Bible says in I believe 1Timothy 6-10.  "For the love on money is the root of all evil."
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