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Re: Camping World Claim
« Reply #30 on: October 19, 2017, 01:12:15 PM »
Well, I'll never set foot in a Camping World again, unless it is the absolute last resort for getting something that I cannot make do without.

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« Reply #31 on: October 19, 2017, 02:10:50 PM »
Well, I'll never set foot in a Camping World again, unless it is the absolute last resort for getting something that I cannot make do without.

That's what's great about the free market system. We don't have to shop at the company store. We don't drink Yuengling beer or eat at Chick Fil A. The only way we have to show our displeasure with a business is with our pocketbook.
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« Reply #32 on: October 19, 2017, 05:43:30 PM »
How's Colin doing now days ..... ;D

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« Reply #33 on: October 19, 2017, 05:52:53 PM »
How's Colin doing now days ..... ;D

He has a net worth of about $25 million. So I would say he is doing fine. Kaepernick will do well in life. He has integrity. He doesn't need the NFL. He would like to play, but doesn't have to.
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« Reply #34 on: October 19, 2017, 05:56:12 PM »
Yea...it's kinda like many Americans voted with their wallets...(or pocketbooks )
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« Reply #35 on: October 20, 2017, 07:16:51 AM »
He has a net worth of about $25 million. So I would say he is doing fine. Kaepernick will do well in life. He has integrity. He doesn't need the NFL. He would like to play, but doesn't have to.

Yes he does have integrity.  He places himself above his country.  Now he is filing suit saying the owners colluded against him but his record shows that he is nothing more than a subpar quarterback who made a major mistake and is trying to fit the square peg back into the round hole.  Ain't gonna happen.

To keep it on topic.  Did you know that baseballs Joe Maddon, manager of the Chicago Cubs was gifted a Winnebago a few months ago - by the company.  I am not a Maddon fan but wonder where the PR value is in that?  He does do a lot of RV traveling so maybe it will interest the MLB players to join him 'on the road'.   

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« Reply #36 on: October 20, 2017, 07:39:38 AM »
Yes he does have integrity.  He places himself above his country.  Now he is filing suit saying the owners colluded against him but his record shows that he is nothing more than a subpar quarterback who made a major mistake and is trying to fit the square peg back into the round hole.  Ain't gonna happen.

To keep it on topic.  Did you know that baseballs Joe Maddon, manager of the Chicago Cubs was gifted a Winnebago a few months ago - by the company.  I am not a Maddon fan but wonder where the PR value is in that?  He does do a lot of RV traveling so maybe it will interest the MLB players to join him 'on the road'.   

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Just the opposite. Kaepernick is a patriot using his First Amendment right to free speech to bring an injustice to the forefront. And the owners have every right to hire and fire (or not hire) anyone the want.

i can't answer what the PR value is. I don't know how popular Maddon is since I don't watch or follow any sports (too boring). Speaking of Major League Baseball, the Presenting Partner for the 2017 League Championship Series is none other than Marcos Lemonis AKA Camping World.
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« Reply #37 on: October 20, 2017, 08:46:30 AM »
I will never complain about someone exercising their constitutional rights, but I do wonder how many of us could get away with similar protests while on "company time" in our working lives.
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« Reply #38 on: October 20, 2017, 09:50:39 AM »
I will never complain about someone exercising their constitutional rights, but I do wonder how many of us could get away with similar protests while on "company time" in our working lives.

Very true. I spent the majority of my adult life in the military. The military is not a democracy. But when I worked for DoD I had more say. I walked out of meetings where the commander would start the meeting with a prayer. Not opposed to prayer, just not in the workplace.
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« Reply #39 on: October 20, 2017, 10:13:36 AM »
Just the opposite. Kaepernick is a patriot using his First Amendment right to free speech to bring an injustice to the forefront.

That will be the day I call him a patriot.  Look it up in the dictionary. A patriot is someone who fights, defends and if need be, lays down there life for his/her country. I have a word for people like him but I won't say it in this forum. You're not a patriot using his First Amendment Right. You are an America.
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« Reply #40 on: October 20, 2017, 11:41:59 AM »
That will be the day I call him a patriot.  Look it up in the dictionary. A patriot is someone who fights, defends and if need be, lays down there life for his/her country. I have a word for people like him but I won't say it in this forum. You're not a patriot using his First Amendment Right. You are an America.

According to the dictionary (and I consulted several) a patriot is:

a person who loves, supports, and defends his or her country and its interests with devotion.

a person who regards himself or herself as a defender, especially of individual rights, against presumed interference by the federal government.
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Re: Camping World Claim
« Reply #41 on: October 20, 2017, 12:02:20 PM »
According to the dictionary (and I consulted several) a patriot is:

a person who loves, supports, and defends his or her country and its interests with devotion.

a person who regards himself or herself as a defender, especially of individual rights, against presumed interference by the federal government.

That second one is a bit suspect, I think.
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« Reply #42 on: October 20, 2017, 12:15:31 PM »
That second one is a bit suspect, I think.
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a person who regards himself or herself as a defender, especially of individual rights, against presumed interference by the federal government.

There are many that believe the 2nd Amendment was added just for this reason. I believe the First Amendment was inserted to defend our rights against interference by the federal government. Our right to peacefully protest is part of the First Amendment. We have the right to speak out against our government if we believe our rights are being abridged.
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Re: Camping World Claim
« Reply #43 on: October 21, 2017, 10:58:52 AM »
That will be the day I call him a patriot.  Look it up in the dictionary. A patriot is someone who fights, defends and if need be, lays down there life for his/her country. I have a word for people like him but I won't say it in this forum. You're not a patriot using his First Amendment Right. You are an America.

There is also this definition.

noun
1.
a person who loves, supports, and defends his or her country and its interests with devotion.
2.
a person who regards himself or herself as a defender, especially of individual rights, against presumed interference by the federal government.

Kind of sounds right to me.
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« Reply #44 on: October 21, 2017, 11:06:58 AM »
There is also this definition.

noun
1.
a person who loves, supports, and defends his or her country and its interests with devotion.
2.
a person who regards himself or herself as a defender, especially of individual rights, against presumed interference by the federal government.

Kind of sounds right to me.

These are the same definitions I found. Just because someone is acting in way you (not you but you in general) would or want others to, does not make them unpatriotic.
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« Reply #45 on: October 21, 2017, 04:08:12 PM »
According to this....https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/36/301 

a Patriotic American should stand for the playing of our national anthem.
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« Reply #46 on: October 21, 2017, 04:55:05 PM »
According to this....https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/36/301 

a Patriotic American should stand for the playing of our national anthem.

Exactly.  :)) :)) :))  Along with 64% of Americans.
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« Reply #47 on: October 21, 2017, 05:06:22 PM »
Exactly.  :)) :)) :))  Along with 64% of Americans.

But that doesnt mean if you dont stand you are not patriot.
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« Reply #48 on: October 21, 2017, 05:14:06 PM »
I bet none of the people complaining about other people not standing for the National Anthem actually stand for the Anthem when it is played on TV.
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« Reply #49 on: October 21, 2017, 05:15:40 PM »
But that doesnt mean if you dont stand you are not patriot.

I started to write a reply but decided against it. It wouldn't make any of the non believers, believers so there's no point.
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« Reply #50 on: October 21, 2017, 05:20:56 PM »
According to this....https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/36/301 

a Patriotic American should stand for the playing of our national anthem.

Did you know that until 2009 no NFL player stood for the National Anthem. All the teams stayed in the locker room until the pre game festivities were over. It was only when the DoD starting paying teams to stage on field "patriotic" ceremonies that teams lined up and stood for the Anthem. Many millions of dollars.
It's ironic that folks get so wrapped up in a mere symbol like the flag or a song. So much so that if someone doesn't do what they want them to, they call for those folks to lose their job. Because they think they are being unpatriotic. When in fact, by the mere act of taking a knee, an act that is a right outlined in the Constitution, a document that folks have actually lost their lives defending unlike a flag or a song, is unpatriotic. The act of protest is one of the most patriotic acts an American can take.
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« Reply #51 on: October 21, 2017, 05:24:07 PM »
According to this....https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/36/301 

a Patriotic American should stand for the playing of our national anthem.


I started to write a reply but decided against it. It wouldn't make any of the non believers, believers so there's no point.

Look up the definition of should, may and will.
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« Reply #52 on: October 21, 2017, 05:39:04 PM »
IMO...That's the same bull crap as Bill Clinton's definition of what 'is' is.   

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« Reply #53 on: October 21, 2017, 05:42:01 PM »
IMO...That's the same bull crap as Bill Clinton's definition of what 'is' is.   ...

You are entitled to your opinion. We all know what an opinion is; they are like ________, everybody has one and most stink.
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« Reply #54 on: October 21, 2017, 05:50:28 PM »
You are entitled to your opinion. We all know what an opinion is; they are like ________, everybody has one and most stink.

No,    Everyone else's stink.   No one ever thinks their own stinks.     ;D
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« Reply #55 on: October 21, 2017, 06:20:40 PM »
No,    Everyone else's stink.   No one ever thinks their own stinks.     ;D

I don't know about that Tony. My wife will tell you I have some pretty foul opinions. Just not this one.
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« Reply #56 on: October 21, 2017, 08:38:27 PM »
I bet none of the people complaining about other people not standing for the National Anthem actually stand for the Anthem when it is played on TV.

I was surprised at my wifes Uncle's full 21 gun Military funeral when the Navy Commander presiding asked everyone to please stand,  and any active or prior military to please salute as the Navy Honor Guard played Taps.  ( a moving experience in person)

Being a patriotic American,   I was honored to both stand, and salute.



As I was the only one that saluted... the Commander came over to me after the ceremony as asked if I too was Navy.   When I replied "No Sir,  Army",    he jokingly said   "Well..Army is okay too"  and shook my hand.   ( it's a military thing )

So I thanked him for the fine ceremony and rifle salute,  and said I was a bit surprised...   I didn't even know the Navy had rifles.    8)

  thankfully,  The Commander laughed    ...                     
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« Reply #57 on: October 21, 2017, 09:06:48 PM »
I agree.  It is my observation that there are two types of people when it comes to money.  Those that see money as a utility for the things that can be done with it, and those that see money  as an end unto itself.  It appears that that they worship money, and therefore money is their god, but as the Bible says in I believe 1Timothy 6-10.  "For the love on money is the root of all evil."
Actually, 1 Timothy 6:10 says, "For the love of money is the root of all kinds of evils." There are lots of kinds of evil, and some of them are not rooted in the love of money, but plenty are. It's a fine point, I grant, but I just like to keep the record straight.
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« Reply #58 on: October 21, 2017, 09:31:46 PM »
I was vilified for not supporting our government during Viet Nam. You tell me which side was correct now that a few decades have passed. Protest is fundamental to our Republic and should always be so. I believe Great Britain thought the same about our founding fathers as some feel about the NFL players protests, which h have absolutely nothing to do with flags or anthems. Straw men are so easy to defeat, much easier than the actual reasons for a protest.
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« Reply #59 on: October 21, 2017, 10:40:10 PM »
There were many very important people like Charles Lindbergh and Henry Ford as well as much of Hollywood that protested our early involvement in WW2 .  they ended up being wrong.

 seconding guessing who was right or wrong may depend on if we won, or lost the war.

Thank you Rich,  I do remember being heckled in uniform during Vietnam,.... I guess I was one of the wrong ones.

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