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Barak

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Re: Towing limits exceeded?
« Reply #30 on: October 25, 2017, 08:29:26 PM »
This is great feedback. Well I did just all that you just stated. Basically my now remeasured TT tongue weight of my completely empty TT is 825 (includes batteries and propane tanks). So after adding in all my camping chairs tables grill generators and everything else I need while camping plus food and clothes, I am estimating tongue to be about 1,100 or so. After adding in passengers and some firewood, I am sure that I am over the yellow sticker which says 1380. So what does it really mean when you exceed this number? What does WD system do, does it take weight off of tongue so I could land below this number?

RVRAC

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Re: Towing limits exceeded?
« Reply #31 on: October 25, 2017, 09:22:37 PM »
You need at least a 3/4 ton for a 35' trailer.  The WD helps with sway and moves some of the weight to the front axle.  I used to have a 2500HD Silverado.  It would work for you.
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grashley

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Re: Towing limits exceeded?
« Reply #32 on: October 26, 2017, 05:59:03 PM »
The yellow sticker says your truck is not designed to carry more than 1380 pounds.  Period.  Past that, you risk overloading the suspension, possibly overloading frame components, exceeding braking capabilities, possibly overloading the tires, or axles.  In short, it is NOT suggested.  Will the truck self destruct if you are 10 pounds over?  Heavens NO!  100 pounds over - same answer. 100 pounds over is only 7% over.  500 pounds is a whopping 36% overweight.

The weight distribution hitch DOES NOT remove weight from the truck - or not very much.  As a rough estimate, if you have a 1000 lb hitch wt without a WD hitch, all of which is carried on the back bumper, it may add 1200 lb to the rear axle and take 200 lbs off the front axle (leverage).  A WD hitch will redistribute that weight, maybe add 600 lbs to the rear axle, 300 lbs to the front axle and 100 lbs back on the TT axle.  The truck still carries almost all the weight.

As RVRAC said, you need more truck.

Since this is your daily driver, a different ˝ ton MAY meet your needs. 
Ford offers a Heavy Duty Payload package on the F150 which includes 3.73 rear end, heavier rear axle, heavier springs, aux transmission cooler and bigger tires.  With any truck (or car) more options add weight, which reduces Payload.  Likewise for bigger cabs.  Go with the smallest cab and fewest options you will feel comfortable with.  Add HD Payload pkg and see where you land.  Note, this may be very hard to find on a lot somewhere, and that makes it hard to see the yellow placard.
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John97031

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Re: Towing limits exceeded?
« Reply #33 on: October 31, 2017, 12:12:45 AM »
No worries, you’re not offending in any way. This is good information for me to consider while I am speculating if I need to upgrade to a 3/4 ton truck. My tundra has class 4 hitch which allows for at least 3,500 lbs tong weight if not even up to 5,000 lbs. Rear gear ratio is 4.30 with tow package tested just like any other brands. Owners manual says for conventional trailer the gross trailer weight should be distributed so that the tongue weight is 9-11%. And it says if using Wad system, which I am, that front axle is returned to same weight as before trailer connected. I am getting that, however the rear saggs about 2 inches down from original hight.

The rating for a class 4 hitch is what the HITCH can handle. That does not mean the vehicle can handle it. The yellow sticker that others have mentioned will give the maximum weight your vehicle can carry.  This includes stuff in the truck, passengers AND tongue weight. Tongue weight is 10 to 15 percent of the trailers weight. Less is a recipe for dissaster.

An example is my RAM 2500 diesel. It has 2000 lb load capacity ( passengers, cargo, and tongue weight). Gas versions of the same truck have a higher load rating because the gas versions are lighter allowing more load. But carrying it with a gas engine.
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