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Rfg4retir

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Fire stick
« on: October 29, 2017, 10:42:13 AM »
Has anyone tried using the fire stick for free tv services in there units

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Re: Fire stick
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2017, 11:05:31 AM »
You don't get free TV service, you still have to pay.
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Re: Fire stick
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2017, 11:10:39 AM »
Ahh figures , thx for response

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Re: Fire stick
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2017, 11:33:03 AM »
The whole purpose of a Fire Stick is to turn old dumb TVs into a modern smart TV that allows you to receive Amazon, HULU, Netflix and other such services on your TV. Those apps are built into a smart TV and can be accessed by your remote control. You still have to pay for the services no matter how you access them.
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Re: Fire stick
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2017, 11:41:52 AM »
You are supposed to pay for access but there appears to be a lot of folks that aren't. I was trying to help a friend get set up to view Amazon Videos that come with his Amazon Prime membership. Looked on Ebay for a Fire Stick and almost all the ones advertised were modified (or claimed to be) so they could access pay streaming services for free. He finally bought one from Amazon so we were sure to get an unmodified one.
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Re: Fire stick
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2017, 12:09:08 PM »
You are supposed to pay for access but there appears to be a lot of folks that aren't. I was trying to help a friend get set up to view Amazon Videos that come with his Amazon Prime membership. Looked on Ebay for a Fire Stick and almost all the ones advertised were modified (or claimed to be) so they could access pay streaming services for free. He finally bought one from Amazon so we were sure to get an unmodified one.
I would be shocked if it really works. eBay is full of lies and bs.
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Re: Fire stick
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2017, 12:31:45 PM »
Well I had to go over to eBay and see what was going on with the Fire Sticks. They are said to be 'jailbroken' but they are not. At least not jailbroken like a cell phone is. All they are doing is adding KODI and charging twenty bucks or so. KODI has some not so legal software that Amazon cracks down on occasionally.

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If it seems too good to be true then it is not true.
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Re: Fire stick
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2017, 09:19:47 PM »
I recently bought a Roku Express which is a similar competing product, the Roku does have some free channels such as the CW channel which has recent episodes of most of the original CW shows.  It also allows access to the popular pay services like Netflix, Amazon video, etc.

p.s. if you have Amazon Prime there are lots of videos that are included at no additional charge, this is one of the perks that goes along with Amazon prime, these days it may be the main one.
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Re: Fire stick
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2017, 09:21:43 PM »
Vudu has a whole bunch of free movies. It is a service of Walmart.
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Re: Fire stick
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2017, 10:06:17 PM »
We have a FireTVstick, and there are many LEGAL free channels available. We primarily use ours to watch Amazon Prime movies and live TV using the DishAnywhere app with either of our two Dish Hopper receivers. We particularly like being able to stream programs that we recorded on the Hopper we leave at our Adirondack cottage while we were underway. My wife even uses it to watch her favorite soap opera on the bedroom TV while we were underway sometimes. Be aware though, the FireTVstick can suck down a lot of data in a pretty short time. Fortunately, we have two unlimited data plans, so that's not a concern for us.

Most of the folks that are getting illegal free programming are using a free app called "Kodi" that lets them install a number of add-ons for accessing pay channels that someone is illegally streaming, usually from off shore servers. One giveaway to the legality of a given service is if they caution you to use an anonymous VPN service to access their stream.
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Re: Fire stick
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2017, 10:14:35 PM »

Most of the folks that are getting illegal free programming are using a free app called "Kodi" that lets them install a number of add-ons for accessing pay channels that someone is illegally streaming, usually from off shore servers. One giveaway to the legality of a given service is if they caution you to use an anonymous VPN service to access their stream.

Actually, most of what's shared using Kodi isn't the standard pay channels but a whole host of pirated movies and TV shows.  The quality of much of the pirated material is poor--some people even record full length movies on their phones in theaters and then post the amateur "production" online.  Not only is sharing of copyrighted material illegal, it can end up with you losing your internet connection if your ISP detects too much usage of known "peer sharing" sites.  The purpose for using a VPN is to fool your ISP.  Good luck to those who choose to go that route.
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Re: Fire stick
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2017, 10:20:34 PM »
Since we only use our FireTVstick for legal programming, I'll take your word for it, Joel... ;)
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Re: Fire stick
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2017, 10:37:15 PM »
We use FireStickTV at home [antenna - no cable]- Usually  Amazon Prime free tv shows & movies.  Have rented a few of 'hot off the press' movies. HA! Verizon JetPack does not have enough 'STUFF' to let  us play out on the road even when wifi is avail.  JM2
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Re: Fire stick
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2017, 09:06:15 AM »
By "STUFF" do you mean data limits, or speed? As to speed, we normally stream with our AT&T Unite 4G/LTE or Mobley hotspots, but even our 3G only Verizon Jetpack works well enough for TV watching, usually with only minor buffering.
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Re: Fire stick
« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2017, 03:52:33 PM »
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We were kinda inna 'fringe' area.  Have no idea where closest tower was.  Often had to take phone/jetpack outside & climb half way up the hill to get any service.  Speed??? how does 28 sound ~ sometimes less.  At least I could pay my bills. :D
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Re: Fire stick
« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2017, 07:27:38 PM »
Yeah, I can see where that would put a crimp in things! We have a Maximum Signal "Max Amp RV" cell booster/repeater installed in our coach, and in the year or so we've used it, we've yet to be any place where we didn't get a signal that supported streaming, albeit occasionally at a lower resolution than usual, even in some areas where others had no signal at all. I do remember the times before though, when we almost had to resort to climbing tall trees just to get any signal at all.
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Re: Fire stick
« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2017, 09:53:02 AM »
Or front TV needs a firestick not so smart but the rear does not need a firestick as far as Kodi goes you really need high speed internet. If you are prime member many shows there and Netflix though sons account. Jet pack need at least 3 bars for good broadcast. Stronger the wifi the better.
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Re: Fire stick
« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2017, 12:20:21 PM »
It only takes a couple of people streaming in an RV park with good wifi to completely suck up all the bandwidth.  Cellular data is also shared and suffers the same problem.  I don't even attempt to stream anything.

Netflix (and others) support downloading content for viewing later.  No streaming required.

There is nothing illegal about Kodi.  The largest collections of addons is at TVAddons.com.  They do not allow any illegal addons in their library.  Get them from there and you're OK.
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« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2017, 08:40:47 PM »
The largest collections of addons is at TVAddons.com.  They do not allow any illegal addons in their library.  Get them from there and you're OK.

Make that TVAddons.co (no 'm'). Apparently they lost the ".com" domain, but I don't know the details. The repository needs to be reinstalled to automatically get updates...
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Re: Fire stick
« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2017, 09:14:29 AM »
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There is nothing illegal about Kodi.

Right - it's just software. Using Kodi to access pirated video violates copyright laws, but it is the access that is illegal, not the Kodi software.
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Re: Fire stick
« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2017, 01:19:34 PM »
No more illegal than a DVR or VCR.  A xerox machine.  A printing press.  A high quality inkjet printer.  A disk copying machine.  DVD cloning software.  Yet all of those things can be used illegally too.



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Re: Fire stick
« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2018, 03:44:05 AM »
I have been using Amazon Firestick for over a year. To surf the web privately, I use VPN for Amazon Fire Stick. By the way, for more convenience I installed some great apps and now I'm getting more TV than I could ever watch. Latest films, most box sets and multiple sports channels and loads more. Very impressive and gives me much freedom.


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Re: Fire stick
« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2018, 06:45:03 AM »
How much of what you're watching is actually legal in the US?
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Re: Fire stick
« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2018, 06:54:25 AM »
At home we have a Smart TV in the bedroom which streams Amazon, Netflix, Hulu and YouTube. Live TV is provided by Verizon. The other two TVs are are Verizon only. With Verizon we get a channel for Netflix and YouTube. I have noticed YouTube offers a live TV service for a fee. When we are out in the RV the only TV we watch is the occasional DVD.
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Re: Fire stick
« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2018, 07:39:53 AM »
There's a lot of totally free legal content available with various apps, and there is also a lot of copyright violating illegal content available. A key giveaway is any app site that recommends using a VPN to stream content to ostensibly "protect your privacy", when the truth is they are recommending a VPN to "protect your piracy" of the content. I have many apps installed on my Firestick that allow me to legally stream both on demand and live content from most major and "cable" networks, but it's all legal and either has a fee, is included with another paid service, or offers only public domain or otherwise licensed content. The free Pluto streaming service app is a good example of the the last item with advertiser supported licensed and public domain content.
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Re: Fire stick
« Reply #25 on: November 05, 2018, 08:45:42 AM »
If looking for truly free content that is legal, there is some out there for the various devices:

CW and CW Seed both have shows with traditional style advertising breaks inserted for free

There is also some weather and news content for free, though the news tends to be international (I think Sky news from the UK is free)

On the Roku there is the Roku channel which has free content (I think is a Roku exclusive channel)

I think there are others that I have never tried like Tubi which shows movies with ads inserted much like traditional free cable tv has done for decades (TBS, USA, etc.)


The point being with a $30 one time purchase of a Roku, or Amazon Fire one can access a significant amount of legal free on demand content these days.  Certainly thousands of hours of content if you don't mind watching mostly the less prime tv content, tv shows that have been in syndication for years, older movies with ads inserted, etc.
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Re: Fire stick
« Reply #26 on: November 11, 2018, 09:08:44 AM »

The point being with a $30 one time purchase of a Roku, or Amazon Fire one can access a significant amount of legal free on demand content these days.  Certainly thousands of hours of content if you don't mind watching mostly the less prime tv content, tv shows that have been in syndication for years, older movies with ads inserted, etc.

In addition, if one doesn't mind small fees (~$5/mo) there are other streaming options beyond just Netflix, Hulu, Prime and YouTube.  My wife and I like to watch mysteries and cop shows from around the world.  We subscribe to both Acorn and Britbox both of which feature shows from the UK, Australia and New Zealand along with some from other countries. Both are $5/mo with no contracts so you can turn them on and off as you wish.
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Re: Fire stick
« Reply #27 on: November 11, 2018, 10:39:55 AM »
A jailbroke firestick allows you to connect to all the services for free.....  toalk to any highschool kid forinfo..
Or better, if u have a smart TV.  use KODI its free it gives you thousands of movies and TV stations ... u need a wifi connection....

for TV Im experimenting Mirroring my phone to the TV.  I have unlimited data, BUT using the phone as a hotspot you I can only stream 15 gigs and then they slow it
 down to where its useless... Mirroring the phone to a smart TV I can watch pretty much anything I want for free.....
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« Reply #28 on: November 11, 2018, 11:43:37 AM »
A jailbroke firestick allows you to connect to all the services for free.....  toalk to any highschool kid forinfo..
Or better, if u have a smart TV.  use KODI its free it gives you thousands of movies and TV stations ... u need a wifi connection....


With all due respect, jailbraking a device in order to obtain free video from streaming services is legally defined as "theft of service".  I'm not saying you are likely to get caught, but it's definitely not legal.

With respect to Kodi, the program itself is totally legal, but when you add "packs" that enable sharing of copyrighted material from pirating sites, once again that violates the law and the terms of service of your ISP (your internet provider).  It's my understanding that heavy use of Kodi can result in adverse action being taken against you by your ISP.
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Re: Fire stick
« Reply #29 on: November 16, 2018, 06:26:36 PM »
Also there is a way to use a fire stick and mirror your phone to the TV , so if you have xfinity at home you can watch your favorite channels.
Other cable companies also allow you to watch their channel while away.

or abc cbs and nbc all have sites where you can watch their content for free. which you would mirror thru your phone. So if you have unlimited usage on the phone your all set.   BUT if you use your phone as a hot spot ,your provider still gives unimited service but they throttle, or slow the service so u cant watch TV etc.
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