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TonyDtorch

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As of Wednesday November 1st,   there is a new 12 cent a gallon tax on gasoline... and a 16 cent tax on diesel fuel.

This is the first of 3 tax increases for a total of 62 cents a gallon.


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And our roads will benefit  ???   I seem to recall similar gas tax increases and promised road improvements in the 80's; Or am I hallucinating?
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RedandSilver

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I'm glad I'm not in CA.

Our taxes went up Jan 1 of this year like 18-20 cents per gallon - claiming it was for road repairs - which
I haven't seen much of any so far. 

Maybe it's their way of making sure electric cars happen sooner rather than later.
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TonyDtorch

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I'm sure part of the tax revenue will be used for the administrative costs of a new committee that insures the money gets spent properly.   

Just look how the state lottery has helped our schools to become so much better..... ???
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What a joke. That's Jerry Brown taking care of ya.
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TonyDtorch

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Not to worry...That money will be added into our California State general fund.

That way it stays safe until it can be used to improve our highways...and the interest earned will help CALPERS stay funded for a while longer.


(...and poof! ..it's all gone. )
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Years ago when Arnold Schwarzenegger was governor he said he was going to fix highway 99 from Bakersfield to Sacramento. And he did. It is pretty much completed now and in pretty good shape.

We've traveled the length of it this past few months and, with the exception of a few small sections that are being worked on, I'm happy with it.

 
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OH NO!  We in PA were number 1 in fuel taxes, does this mean we will fall to second place?

Our taxes are slated to rise every year for the foreseeable future, so we might regain the lead.

I bought just 1/2 tank in PA since the big increase last January, and I plan to buy as much of everything out of state for years to come.  PA, you’re fired.

Roy M

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Darn you CA, BC is apparently following suit. I paid $1.21.9/l tonight for diesel. :'(

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I paid $2.22 per gallon earlier today for gasoline in Louisiana
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TonyDtorch

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regular gas around me is $2.70 gal.      after Nov. 1st  .. it'll be near $2.85 a gallon.

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I truly wish that such a beautiful state did not have so many problems and detractors. We have made two trips through the state and worked for our site for five months. But, we probably won't go back. And, I will miss it.
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Gas prices in Delaware have been all over the place. Some days $2.35. The next day down to $2.19 and then back up to $2.22. Sure, we may have cheaper gas in Delaware but then again you have to live in Delaware to really enjoy it. We don't have a sales tax so it is not uncommon to see vehicles from PA, MD, NJ at Costco, Sam's and other shooting centers. I think the only advantage to living here is maybe some cheaper gas and no sales tax.
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I think the only advantage to living here is maybe some cheaper gas and no sales tax.

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 >:( I'm in mid tennessee and the price of diesel rose $.04 over the weekend to $2.68.9. Before the hurricanes it was $2.16.9 ::) I guess were paying for California too!  :-[ The price of groceries will follow, then clothes, hard goods and anything else trucked in I imagine.

So there goes the big 2% increase in my SS and pension check!! You never come out ahead of the Federal and State governments! But heck were FREE! LOL!
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JoelP

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As of Wednesday November 1st,   there is a new 12 cent a gallon tax on gasoline... and a 16 cent tax on diesel fuel.

This is the first of 3 tax increases for a total of 62 cents a gallon.

Thanks for the reminder.  I had totally forgotten about this. Sure hope to see some of the road repairs from this tax that are well overdue.
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Oldgator73

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>:( I'm in mid tennessee and the price of diesel rose $.04 over the weekend to $2.68.9. Before the hurricanes it was $2.16.9 ::) I guess were paying for California too!  :-[ The price of groceries will follow, then clothes, hard goods and anything else trucked in I imagine.

So there goes the big 2% increase in my SS and pension check!! You never come out ahead of the Federal and State governments! But heck were FREE! LOL!

Where in Mid Tennessee are you? We spent 6 months in Smithville when I was working for a gas pipeline inspection company. We were across the street from a state park. Enjoyed Tennessee but not so much Smithville.
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garyb1st

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This is the first of 3 tax increases for a total of 62 cents a gallon.

Can't find anything that supports a 62 cents a gallon increase.   Are you saying the total tax will increase to 62 cents or increase by 62 cents. 

An increased registration fee takes place on January 1, 2018.  It will be based on vehicle value and range from $25.00 a year for vehicles valued less than $5,000 to $175.00 a year for vehicles valued at $60,000 and more.

Personally I think we should do what London does and tax vehicles for driving into the city.   Only in our case, we should tax certain out-of-state drivers who drive into California.  However, only those certain drivers who bad mouth the State every time they can.   
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Oldgator73

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Personally I think we should do what London does and tax vehicles for driving into the city.   

We lived in Cambridge UK for several years and for some odd reason on a few occasions I drove into London. You could go online and register your plate number and upon returning home go back online and pay the fee. Problem the system never worked. I called their office and was told if there was no fee attached to my plate number not to worry about it.
There are places I would pay to drive to in California, like the Redwood Forest. One of the most beautiful places on earth.
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TonyDtorch

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Californians are bracing for the first phase of the SB-1 gas tax and vehicle registration hikes, which could help boost prices by up to 29 cents per gallon over the next 32 months.

SB-1 will begin with a 12 cent per gallon tax increase on November 1. That works out to a brutal annual cost of about $1,200 per California family. But the full increase will not initially be felt, because Nov. 1 is also the date the  seasonal surcharge for California’s reformulated gasoline summer blend, which amounts to several extra cents per gallon, rolls off.

Moreover, SB-1’s total family pain may be much higher than 12 cents, over time, thanks to the following deadlines: 1) a value-based transportation improvement registration fee kicks in January 1, 2018; 2) the price-based excise tax resets on July 1, 2019; and 3) a new zero emissions vehicle fee begins on July 1, 2020.


SB1 was estimated to have the same financial impact as a 62 cent a gallon tax.


A one party government gets expensive.

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Wendy Lou

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Can't find anything that supports a 62 cents a gallon increase.   Are you saying the total tax will increase to 62 cents or increase by 62 cents. 

An increased registration fee takes place on January 1, 2018.  It will be based on vehicle value and range from $25.00 a year for vehicles valued less than $5,000 to $175.00 a year for vehicles valued at $60,000 and more.

Personally I think we should do what London does and tax vehicles for driving into the city.   Only in our case, we should tax certain out-of-state drivers who drive into California.  However, only those certain drivers who bad mouth the State every time they can.   
I just received my Cali DMV renewal that's  due Jan 8th.  2003 CRV $196.  It would have been about $110 prior.  That's just shy of 80% increase.  Not looking forward to motorhome renewal time.  And that's every year!  Darn it, I love where I live, but no chance of my income increasing I may need to consider moving in the future.
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Oldgator73

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I just received my Cali DMV renewal that's  due Jan 8th.  2003 CRV $196.  It would have been about $110 prior.  That's just shy of 80% increase.  Not looking forward to motorhome renewal time.  And that's every year!  Darn it, I love where I live, but no chance of my income increasing I may need to consider moving in the future.
You can move to Delaware. No sales taxes. Vehicle registration is cheap. Gas is relatively cheap. Beaches suck. All the waterways are pretty much just mud. You have San Diego, San Francisco, the Redwood Forest, Monterey, the mountains in the morning and the beach in the afternoon. If our grandkids weren't here we would like to try there. We'll pay a bit more in taxes to live somewhere beautiful.
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SB-1 will begin with a 12 cent per gallon tax increase on November 1. That works out to a brutal annual cost of about $1,200 per California family.
 

Help with me the math here.  At $1,200 per year at $.12 per gallon, does that mean the average California driver uses 10,000 gallons of gas per year?

What am I missing?
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Oldgator73

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Help with me the math here.  At $1,200 per year at $.12 per gallon, does that mean the average California driver uses 10,000 gallons of gas per year?

What am I missing?


I think most of that cost is due to sitting in traffic.
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TonyDtorch

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Local news said the estimate of all the new fuel taxes and registration fees will be aprox $1200 per family.  a  family can spend $4200 per year for each car   . most families have 2+ cars

I know many people with 4 vehicles. 

It's the registration fees.
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Help with me the math here.  At $1,200 per year at $.12 per gallon, does that mean the average California driver uses 10,000 gallons of gas per year?

What am I missing?


I think most of that cost is due to sitting in traffic.

So 10,000 gallons @~ $4.00 per gallon means that the average California driver is  spending about $40.000 per year on gasoline?  I doubt that to be true.
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Help with me the math here.  At $1,200 per year at $.12 per gallon, does that mean the average California driver uses 10,000 gallons of gas per year?

What am I missing?

It's the new math.  Kinda like when Ben Carson, former brain surgeon turned HUD financial sleuth found a bunch of errors totaling $500 Billion.  Not a small feat considering the overall budget is less than $50 Billion. 
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TonyDtorch

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Where will the money go?

Road Maintenance and Rehabilitation Program – $3.24 billion a year on average: Off the top, the program allocates several hundred million dollars to various endeavors:

▪ $400 million to maintain and repair state bridges and culverts

▪ $200 million for Sacramento and 23 other counties with local transportation taxes

$100 million to increase the number of trips by bike and on foot

▪ $25 million for the freeway service patrol program

▪ $25 million for sustainable communities planning grants to local governments

▪ $7 million total for transportation-related research and education at UC ($5 million) and CSU ($2 million)

▪ $5 million in workforce development grants to local agencies

Of the roughly $2.48 billion remaining, half would go to Caltrans for state highway maintenance and rehabilitation. The other half would go to cities and counties for road maintenance and repair projects and railroad grade separations. It also pays for an emphasis on “complete streets” that are safer for walkers and bikers, capture stormwater, and include other features.
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Must be that NEW math!
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TonyDtorch

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I was wrong.

 I just found this quote in the LA Times..."Brown said the taxes and fees will cost most Californians less than $10 per month".

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-sac-gas-tax-signing-20170428-story.html


whew ...had me scared for a minute. 
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