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steph

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Re: Super C vs Class A
« Reply #30 on: May 27, 2007, 02:42:29 PM »
Thanks guys!  Hope everyone is having a wonderful weekend.
 

joester

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Re: Super C vs Class A
« Reply #31 on: May 30, 2007, 11:45:38 AM »
Steph -
as owners of a 27' class c Tioga for 10 years, and slowly shopping for a class a for the last 2 years - this is what I've found:
we don't want a lot of length, and nor do we have room in our yard for a 36-40' rig. The 2004-2005 Monaco Cayman (same as Holiday Rambler Neptune) has a model (since discontinued) called a 32 PBD. actually measures just over 33', but has everything I want - diesel pusher, air suspension, 2 slides, and enough room for the 2 of us and our dog.
They retailed about 150-170k, depending on options, but I have seen a few 2005 used ones already selling in the 110-120 range. we're a couple years away from buying, but until I find something comparable, this is the coach I want.
if someone out here knows about these coaches, I sure would appreciate any info about them, and any other brands with similar features, we sure would appreciate it!
good luck in your shopping - it's one of the fun parts of rv'ing - checking all the possibilities, and finding which suits your needs the best.
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kevin

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Re: Super C vs Class A
« Reply #32 on: May 31, 2007, 08:32:50 PM »
Steph,My wife and I/ mom and dad had the same problem, class c, or a...then it went to a gas or diesel pusher..We bought a new DP(mainly because of my dad) but there are alot of great units out there under $100,000. I know of 2 country coaches in good shape right now...and about them being Big and not as cozy as a C class...it just takes a few trips to fall in love with them... I had more fun driving to Branson Mo on the twisted 2lane roads than I did on I40..kevin
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« Reply #33 on: June 16, 2007, 05:08:38 PM »
I just downsized from a 42' tag axle Holiday Rambler Imperial (400K list price) to a 2008 Gulfsteam SuperNova (163K list price).
Here is my opinion (for what it's worth)
I agree with the person who said they are loud in the drivers compartment.  I will be adding sound proofing to quiet it down.
I do like it very much.  It is easy to drive.  My wife would never drive the Holiday Rambler, she said it was too big.  She just drove the Supernova from Hilton Head to Atlanta towing our Honda Pilot. YEAH!
It is a BIG step down to what we are used to, but I am sure there will be less repairs.  Everything in the Holiday Rambler was automatic, which means a  lot more things to go wrong.  Don't get me wrong, the HR is a GREAT coach and when I am an empty nester, with the kids college paid for (my kids are 8 and 11), I'll get another big HR.  For now, the Supernnova is fine.  I have some issues, normal rv issues, and 1 desgn issue.  Gulfstream has been great.  They replaced my rear axle because I felt the gearing was too low.  The diesel v8 was turning 2800 RPMS at 65 mhp.  Gulfstream stepped up to the plate and replaced the rear end at no charge.  The rest of the problems are nomal RV problems, bugs which need to be worked out.  So, to make a long story short, you won't make a mistake buying a SUPER C like a SuperNova over the same pric class A, and it will be easier to drive.  (just a bit louder)

Chuck

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Re: Super C vs Class A
« Reply #34 on: June 16, 2007, 05:32:10 PM »
...Gulfstream has been great.  They replaced my rear axle because I felt the gearing was too low.  The diesel v8 was turning 2800 RPMS at 65 mhp.  Gulfstream stepped up to the plate and replaced the rear end at no charge....
I am amazed that Gulf Stream (or any RV company) would do that.  What's your RPM at 65 mph after the change?
Frank
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steph

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Re: Super C vs Class A
« Reply #35 on: June 17, 2007, 09:09:00 PM »
As always I appreciate all the input.  It is very helpful in our decision making.  We are probably a few years out now at this point for what we want and what we can afford to meet comfortably in the middle.  Which is good cause it gives us more time to look at all the different options out there instead of jumping too quick. 

ellacass

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Re: Super C vs Class A
« Reply #36 on: June 19, 2007, 03:44:24 PM »
Wow!  All of these posts were so helpful.  I was sure that a coachmen freelander 3100so was the perfect rv for me.  Now, I am looking at class A.  What are some suggestions as to some of the most well built, safe, quality lines? 

localnet

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Re: Super C vs Class A
« Reply #37 on: June 19, 2007, 09:42:34 PM »
What is your budget?

That would be very helpful to know.?

joester

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« Reply #38 on: June 20, 2007, 03:00:34 PM »
this is really interesting topic for me, as this past weekend, I finally got an outside look at a Jayco super c - Seneca I think,
2 slides - looked great. Owner wasn't around, so I just looked at the outside - this may fit my needs also.
Anyone have any experience with this rv?
thanks!
Joe
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Re: Super C vs Class A
« Reply #39 on: June 23, 2007, 09:28:02 AM »
Rides like a truck.  Look cool, powerful, but harsh ride.

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KellyM

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Re: Super C vs Class A
« Reply #40 on: June 24, 2007, 08:17:54 PM »
Great thread!  We went out looking at only C's.  The sales lady convinced me to also sit in and drive a Class A (Hurricane) and I was convinced - its class A for us.  That was yesterday.  Today we test drove a Fleetwood Terra.  I couldn't believe how easy it was to drive.  I felt like I knew where I was in my lane compared to driving the C's.  I'm very easily swayed but this coach was so beautiful on the inside and out.  It wasn't the floor plan I want and we did notice it was a bit loud.  After reading this thread tho, we're going to see what there is to find in the diesel pushers.
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PancakeBill

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Re: Super C vs Class A
« Reply #41 on: June 27, 2007, 04:22:05 PM »
Quite a jump from a Terra to a DP!  Careful, you might not be able to live without it.

Bill & Jolene W & Koda

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Re: Super C vs Class A
« Reply #42 on: June 27, 2007, 07:32:57 PM »
Great thread.  I was also looking seriously at a Coachmen 3100SO until many salesmen advised me that Class A's were easier to drive and have better visibility.  Sleeping accommodations were also a consideration with grand children.  Class C's win that but a realistic assessment of when they would be able to come with us shifted us back to the A.  I also plan on many long trips where they would not come along.  I then conentrated on Quality manufacturers by reading this board and asking campers in camp grounds how they liked their units.  I currently camp with a TT.  Tiffin, Fleetwood, Newmar, and Winnibago seem to rise to the top of that list.  Not to familiar with Newmar but lots of people on this board love em.  Everyone in campgrounds seem to love their Fleetwood Bounders, even the old ones.  Looked at one at Lazy Days this weekend and fell in love with it.  (34G) I'm still a few months away from placing an order so I will spend the time figuring out which dealer to go to.  Price will be balanced with service reputation to help me there.  Florida seems to have alot of dealers.  I hope that helps.

PancakeBill

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« Reply #43 on: June 29, 2007, 02:36:22 PM »
You went to Lazy Days and didn't ask for me?  Dang. 
Bill & Jolene W & Koda

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« Reply #44 on: June 29, 2007, 05:55:44 PM »
I have a post about my four winds super C, but here is some C VS A info. I have several friends that bought class A after I bought my super C (36' bumper to bumper). Its very loud up front while driving. Its nice and cosy as are the class A's. You loose about 8 to 9' of living space because the front two seats are lower than the floor in the living section. In a class A you can turn the seats to make the cab area part of the living area. They do not appear to put the same value and quality on cabinets, doors, woodwork, and small things like shelves etc. The outside storage is much smaller and mine has no feed through storage because of the chassis. It seems to be more top heavy coming out of driveways or cornering. I have driven the class A's and at least the ones my friends have drive many times better. My Kodiak 5500 chassis gave me white knuckles bad (much sway in highway chain areas and passing big rigs). I added an expensive front end stabilizer which helps a lot, but is not a s good as the class A's. I would if I could do it over buy a few year old class A for less than my new class C and be much happier.

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Re: Super C vs Class A
« Reply #45 on: July 06, 2007, 08:49:10 AM »
Quite a jump from a Terra to a DP!  Careful, you might not be able to live without it.



Your jivving me right???? ;)

Actually we're back to the Terra.  Just waiting for the guy to call when he finds my layout.  Wish he'd hurry - we're off to Flagstaff for the weekend in the camper again.  Gotta get out of this 116 heat.  Ya know its bad when 96 sounds good. 
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joester

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kelly -
« Reply #46 on: July 06, 2007, 12:50:35 PM »
we live in tempe - where do you stay when you go to flag?
we're partial to kit carson, but always looking for a new place to stay in the pines.
thanks
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steph

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« Reply #47 on: July 10, 2007, 03:13:08 PM »
All these posts have been very helpful.  Thanks

We will be looking around for a while.  We have enjoyed our Coachmen though.  It hasn't been bad at all.  Knock on wood. 
I wish we had done some more research and looking around but we were all knew to Rving and so excited to get at it that we just jumped on it.  Besides the Class As were really a lot more money then we wanted to invest before we knew if we would like Rving.  Not many rental options around here that we are aware of.  In fact I don't think there are any very close by. 
We will enjoy what we have and continue to look for a new one.  Probably a Class A.  So far I really like the Terra LX.  Nice layout.  Full body paint is nice.  Haven't test driven one because there was really no need to at this point.

Thanks again guys for all the input.  I really appreciate it. 

Scot1459

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« Reply #48 on: July 15, 2007, 08:52:00 AM »
Newbie here, so please excuse my ignorance.

If you are using the MH for family vacations and are not pulling a car behind you, aren't the C's a bit better to use to go to the tourist spots rather than a large Class A? I was always told that A's were a bit harder to get around when you're not on the interstates.

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« Reply #49 on: July 15, 2007, 09:20:39 AM »
No such thing as a bad question.  If you don't know it's the only way to find out.Many people here have the patience of a Saint.  LOL I not being one of them.  But then I'm old, cranky, stubborn, and hard to get along with according to the wife.  I can't dispute the truth.  I've had Class A's since the 60's and even when friends have purchased Cs  I shuttered.  They have their Place and some people like them.  Toddays prices for C's and A's are very close on the new units.  Now Sure the A's get way up there in price but new C's will probably be in the 70 to 80K bracket, Heck there are A's in that group.  A's have more room to  move around and Visability is greater in my view.  The don't appear to be as top heavy to me and seem more stable on the road.  As for maneuverability,  its just like a car,  if you have a larger car you learn to deal with it. Also when maneuvering it's easier to spot problems on the road because you sit higher.  Just me take on it.
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« Reply #50 on: July 15, 2007, 10:07:02 AM »
We used to have a 24-foot Class C. Now we have a 28-foot Class A that we can take it just about anywhere. We like the Class A better as it has more room. It's great for the 3 of us (me, Mike, and Sam the labradork). If we had kids, we probably would have stuck with the Class C which, although smaller, had more sleeping places.

Getting around in a 30-foot Class C would be just about the same as getting around in a 30-foot Class A. We find the Class A easier to drive than the Class C was even though driving the C felt more like driving a van because of the van cockpit and the A is more like driving a bus. But you get used to it. We're probably talller than the C so have to watch low branches a bit more.

Try sitting in both Cs and As with floorplans you like and see which you like better. Try test driving a couple and see what you think.

And, no matter what, Enjoy.
Wendy
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Re: Super C vs Class A
« Reply #51 on: July 15, 2007, 10:10:33 AM »
Thanks. I'm still about a year out from buying, just starting to do the reseach now. This site is invaluble to people like me.

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« Reply #52 on: July 15, 2007, 10:14:11 AM »
We used to have a 24-foot Class C. Now we have a 28-foot Class A that we can take it just about anywhere. We like the Class A better as it has more room. It's great for the 3 of us (me, Mike, and Sam the labradork). If we had kids, we probably would have stuck with the Class C which, although smaller, had more sleeping places.

Getting around in a 30-foot Class C would be just about the same as getting around in a 30-foot Class A. We find the Class A easier to drive than the Class C was even though driving the C felt more like driving a van because of the van cockpit and the A is more like driving a bus. But you get used to it. We're probably talller than the C so have to watch low branches a bit more.

Try sitting in both Cs and As with floorplans you like and see which you like better. Try test driving a couple and see what you think.

And, no matter what, Enjoy.
Wendy


Thanks. We have 3 children, so the extra bunk for sleeping is really what is driving me towards a C. We have rented a c before, but the only A's for rent are the large disels, which is not the type of A we would be interested in. Naturally we would gravatate towards the 28 foot/gas models.  We have some time so I will see what I can do about getting familar with the Class As. Our budget will be around 24-28, so the A's in our reach would only be a few years older than the C's. I'll just keep researching on this board.

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Re: Super C vs Class A
« Reply #53 on: July 15, 2007, 10:22:11 AM »
We have 3 children, so the extra bunk for sleeping is really what is driving me towards a C.

Our prior coach was a 29 foot Pace Arrow, class A, gas. It had a bunk above the driver/passenger seat that swung down from the ceiling. During the day and when traveling it was back up at ceiling height, out of the way.
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« Reply #54 on: July 15, 2007, 05:37:50 PM »
Our prior coach was a 29 foot Pace Arrow, class A, gas. It had a bunk above the driver/passenger seat that swung down from the ceiling. During the day and when traveling it was back up at ceiling height, out of the way.

Thanks Tom...I'll take a look at that model.

Like I said, I'm still a year away...just trying to get informed first. With our budget of $24-28, we need one slide, so the best we can do is a 96-00 C or a 95-98 A.

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« Reply #55 on: July 15, 2007, 07:05:19 PM »
I, too, think maneuverability is more related to length than to chassis style. 

One other thing that can make a big difference is turning radius, however.  There can be big differences in turning radius from chassis model to chassis model.
Frank
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« Reply #56 on: July 15, 2007, 07:08:37 PM »
Thanks Tom...I'll take a look at that model.

Scott, I wasn't suggesting you look specifically at the model we had; I believe they stopped making it in the late 80's. I was merely suggesting there might be an alternative to a class C if you could find a class A with that extra bunk.
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« Reply #57 on: July 15, 2007, 09:40:49 PM »
Many Class As have dinettes that turn into beds and/or sofas that pull out into beds. That could be an option. Even though you're a year out from buying, you can still have fun looking and maybe find the floorplan of your dreams.

Wendy
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« Reply #58 on: July 15, 2007, 11:57:32 PM »
Here's my take on A's and C's:

Had a 30' Class A for 4-1/2 years, no slide. My husband never got comfortable driving it, always said it felt like he was trying to maneuver an elephant down the road, didn't like having to worry about getting out of a parking lot he wanted to drive into without backing up. We recently traded that for a 24' Class C with a slide and we absolutely love it. He actually enjoys driving it. And it is more spacious than the A, just not as much storage. Wish we had gotten it a long time ago, would have seen alot more of the country in those 4-1/2 years.

I don't know which would be right for you but I sure like my C.   :)

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« Reply #59 on: July 16, 2007, 12:44:23 PM »
Nice to hear from someone who went from an A to a C.
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