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ditsjets7

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WATER
« on: December 01, 2017, 09:13:27 AM »
Hi All, so in planning our first big trip with our newly acquired motor home. It is not until March nut during the course of a week we will leave upstate NY, travel about 1,500 miles over the course of a week with about 5 stops including family and other great events.

We have a 2003 Coachmen Leprechan ( 31 foot). First, I am not sure the size of the water tank. my question is it safe, ideal to carry some water in the tank from one destination to the next? I want to be sure I am not putting any undo strain or risk of damage. I would like to have some water for dishes and maybe a quick shower. Some of our stops have water but two will not. Thanks in advance.

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Re: WATER
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2017, 09:23:51 AM »
I always carry water most of the time a full tank. I would think your tank would be designed to carry full also. If not there should be a warning label somewhere.
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Re: WATER
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2017, 09:27:23 AM »
The water tank in our Leprechaun is about 45 gallons. We carry water all the time. Sometimes only about 10 or 15 gallons to get us to a place with water at the site, but we have started out out with a full tank on a trip when we knew we wouldn't have hook-ups for 4 days. Ours is under the bed, so it probably wouldn't stand much chance of freezing as long as we kept the RV warm inside. You can always prop the mattress up while traveling to get heat in there.
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Re: WATER
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2017, 09:32:33 AM »
 Absolutely, fill it up. Before you leave youll want to sanitize the tank and water lines with bleach. I believe it's 1/4 cup per 15 gallons. Fill tank and run it thru the sinks etc till you can smell it. Let it sit there for a couple hours then rinse a couple times. Then fill it up and go
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Re: WATER
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2017, 09:35:52 AM »
Absolutely, fill it up. Before you leave youll want to sanitize the tank and water lines with bleach. I believe it's 1/4 oz. per 15 gallons. Fill tank and run it thru the sinks etc till you can smell it. Let it sit there for a couple hours then rinse a couple times. Then fill it up and go

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Re: WATER
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2017, 09:44:36 AM »
I have never once thought about how much water was on board before moving my RV. I can't think of anything less important to worry about.
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Re: WATER
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2017, 09:48:42 AM »
I have never once thought about how much water was on board before moving my RV. I can't think of anything less important to worry about.

I am new to all this. I figured since water weighs 8 lbs per gallon it was a worthy question. Just want to avoid causing self-inflicted problems

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Re: WATER
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2017, 09:50:15 AM »
We always fill fresh water before departing. Never gave it a second thought.
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Re: WATER
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2017, 10:12:44 AM »
I am new to all this. I figured since water weighs 8 lbs per gallon it was a worthy question. Just want to avoid causing self-inflicted problems
This subject has come up many times here. Some people actually think filling the water tank will reduce your gas mileage, which it will not do. And some people think that driving with an empty tank could be a disaster if you arrived somewhere and there was no water available. Both sound too ridiculous to worry about. But you are not alone, many other people have the same question.
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Re: WATER
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2017, 10:47:41 AM »
I was on my was to Tuscaloosa, AL when a tornado hit. I was able to get into a campground but there was no power or water for 2 days. I was glad I had 2/3 tank of water and a full fuel tank. Never wrong to be prepared.
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Re: WATER
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2017, 10:50:15 AM »
You have 36.5 Gal of fresh water.  Absolutely fill it up with water, they are made for that.  Maybe some older camper with rusted out underflooring, then I'd be leary about traveling with full tanks

Here is a link with great info for your RV.  scroll t the bottom, and all the specs you ever need
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Re: WATER
« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2017, 11:53:30 AM »
And now you have answered my next question so thank you. I figured with approximately 360 additional lbs for a 45 gallon tank that would cause the gas mileage to decline. You say no so that's good enough for me.

I don't ever tow but many people here claim that when towing a 3000 pound vehicle behind their class A that their gas mileage only drops about a half a mile per gallon, so a few hundred pounds of water won't make any difference at all. Gas mileage is determined mainly by two factors, the wind resistance and how heavy you right foot is.

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Re: WATER
« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2017, 12:08:42 PM »
We leave upstate NY in January enroute to Florida. We always fill the water tank to the top, and even in -4 below F weather, we haven't had any problems. We have however, arrived at parks along the way to find that their water was either off for the winter or frozen.
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Re: WATER
« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2017, 12:27:02 PM »
Welcome to the forum.

It all depends on how much your unit weights and how much load you will have on the rear axle. Leprechauns do not have a lot of space on rear axle weight limit.  I know, I have one. 

If filling the water tank takes you over the rear axle weight limit, don't do it.  I will put all the things and people doing the trip in the unit, go to a certified scale and weight the unit.  If you are at, too close, or over the rear axle weight limit, only put a few gallons of water.  Otherwise, you are looking for trouble. MHO
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Re: WATER
« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2017, 12:53:59 PM »
As far a sanitizing, the formula is 1/4 CUP for every 15 gallons of water not 1/4 oz.  I fill the tank and run it through all the faucets till I smell bleach. Also fill the water heater and run it through all the hot water faucets. Don't forget the ice maker, the toilet and the outside shower.  Then I usually add another 1/4 cup of bleach and top off the tank again and let it set a couple of days before dumping.
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Re: WATER
« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2017, 12:58:39 PM »
Here in Canada our water is 10 pounds per gallon and we still don't worry about it.  Fill the tank and have fun.
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Re: WATER
« Reply #16 on: December 01, 2017, 01:07:38 PM »
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« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2017, 01:18:54 PM »
  Good eye Rene T

You should be able to go back and fix it.
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Re: WATER
« Reply #18 on: December 01, 2017, 05:12:39 PM »
Is it safe? That is what is is for.

How much? Good question

I tanked up in Mi, Now I've been drinking from the same water system all summer. This was on a Monday.. That Thursday I pulled into S.Carolina, did not refill.. Last week, also on Thursday I finally ran out (80 gallons)( that was 3 weeks plus 3 days on 80 gallons.. This week, also on Thursday, I ran out, that's 7 days on one tank.. Yes. I spent a lot of time Sitting in a specific location last weekend.

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Re: WATER
« Reply #19 on: December 01, 2017, 06:39:13 PM »
Wait a minute, Upstate New York, March, water, below freezing????? Possible problem.

As far as carrying 50 gallons of water versus 50 gallons of air, which will possibly be more useful to you at your destination or along the way?  Which is available in an emergency?

Easy answers to simple questions.

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Re: WATER
« Reply #20 on: December 01, 2017, 07:26:32 PM »
newfurrows ~~ WHY does water weigh so much more in Canada ???  8.33/# US  or is it just that much more expensive???  Just curious.
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Re: WATER
« Reply #21 on: December 01, 2017, 07:37:33 PM »
newfurrows ~~ WHY does water weigh so much more in Canada ???  8.33/# US  or is it just that much more expensive???  Just curious.

Imperial Gallon is based on 10 pounds of water at a certain temperature. The Standard US Gallon is about 80% of that, and based on volume.

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Re: WATER
« Reply #22 on: December 01, 2017, 09:37:24 PM »
THanks ~~ something new every day.  Hope there isn't a quiz
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Re: WATER
« Reply #23 on: December 02, 2017, 10:39:05 AM »
1500 miles in 7 days?  That will be about 5 hours on the road 5 o 7 days.  Plus setup.  Makes for short visits and not much time for fun.  Hope the 1500 is round trip.
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Re: WATER
« Reply #24 on: December 02, 2017, 10:40:10 AM »
1500 miles in 7 days?  That will be about 5 hours on the road 5 o 7 days.  Plus setup.  Makes for short visits and not much time for fun.  Hope the 1500 is round trip.

Round trip yes. Loop.

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Re: WATER
« Reply #25 on: December 02, 2017, 10:44:41 PM »
We start every trip with a full tank of fresh water (100 gallons).   We also dump the holding tanks and refill the fresh water tank every time we leave a campground.   You just never know what may happen along the way.  Having fresh water and empty holding tanks puts you in the position to be flexible along the way if it becomes necessary.    We're in a 44' DP with a tag axle.  The unit has a Net Carrying Capacity of 6,771 lbs.   We're never anywhere near that in terms of load - so the 830 lb weight of a full tank of fresh water hasn't really been much of a concern.  We've never noticed a discernable impact on our mileage.   
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Re: WATER
« Reply #26 on: December 03, 2017, 07:34:54 PM »
Imperial Gallon is based on 10 pounds of water at a certain temperature. The Standard US Gallon is about 80% of that, and based on volume.

Why do you mention the imperial gallon (4.54 liters not weight)? Hasn't Canada been on the metric system for many years? Or haven't you heard about the change yet?

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Re: WATER
« Reply #27 on: December 04, 2017, 08:35:07 AM »
Because some of us 'old farts' still think of in terms or Imperial Gallons (160 liquid oz. ) when comparing to the the US gallon (128 oz) and miles instead of Kilometers when traveling in the USA. We are "flexible" heh heh.... 8)
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Re: WATER
« Reply #28 on: December 04, 2017, 04:55:52 PM »
newfurrows ~~ WHY does water weigh so much more in Canada ???  8.33/# US  or is it just that much more expensive???  Just curious.

Canadian water comes from glacier ice and everyone knows that ice weighs more that liquid water. anyone that has been hit with a snowball vs a glass of water can testify to that!!  Just kidding but I needed a laugh even if I am laughing by myself

I fill my water tanks before leaving the house mainly because I hate the taste of water in the few campgrounds I have been to. besides it is good the have a cup of coffee on the road or while waiting on I-95 traffic to clear.
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Re: WATER
« Reply #29 on: December 06, 2017, 08:13:49 PM »
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and everyone knows that ice weighs more that liquid water.

So therefore the water floats on the ice... :o ::)
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