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TonyDtorch

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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #30 on: December 08, 2017, 09:02:10 PM »

Several countries in Europe that have free health care will even cover people on vacation.  Norway for one is that way.

 our country has free emergency health care too,  a non citizen or an uninsured person is never turned away if they need med help.
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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #31 on: December 09, 2017, 06:41:44 AM »
    But it isn't free, the BIG bill comes later.  Plus, we have acquaintances who if fact have been turn away, even after offering to prepay, when they had no definable insurance coverage and their son was involved in a PWC (personal water craft) accident.

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Oldgator73

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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #32 on: December 09, 2017, 06:57:24 AM »
Shortly after my son separated from the AF he slipped on the driveway at our house in Illinois. We had just arrived in England and were waiting for our rental house to be ready for move in. He got to his phone and a friend came by and picked him up and took him to the local hospital ER. They determined they could not work on his injury (he did not have insurance) so they packed him up  in an ambulance and sent him across the river to St. Louis to another hospital. They performed arthroscopic surgery and determined the swelling was too severe to fix the break. They sent him home. My wife flew back from England and got him in the VA hospital where surgery was performed and all is well now. The first two hospitals sent him a bill in excess of $27,000. So, no, emergency rooms are not free.

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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #33 on: December 09, 2017, 08:15:02 AM »
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If you want to take water on the plane you have to buy it after security which costs more than if you bring your own.
Just bring an empty container and fill it when you get through security.
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Oldgator73

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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #34 on: December 09, 2017, 08:40:21 AM »
Just bring an empty container and fill it when you get through security.

Water fountains are practically nonexistent, by design. I have seen folks filling water bottles in the restrooms.

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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #35 on: December 09, 2017, 09:41:55 AM »
Water fountains are practically nonexistent, by design. I have seen folks filling water bottles in the restrooms.
Every US airport I've been in has had a water bubbler (fountain for non Bahstonions) near the rest rooms.
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TonyDtorch

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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #36 on: December 09, 2017, 10:15:46 AM »
Some friends drove me to a hospital after a motorcycle crash back in the days (1993) before helmet laws here in CA. 

I had a big gash over my eye brow and the skin was hanging down over my eye. ( at first I thought I was blinded  :o )

The E.R. asked me if I had any insurance...  I told them no,  I did not.

They said without insurance there was nothing they can do.      So, I got up and was headed out the exit door when a couple nurses came out grabbed me and ushered me into the operating room.

I never got a bill for those 29 stitches.
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Oldgator73

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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #37 on: December 09, 2017, 10:37:37 AM »
Every US airport I've been in has had a water bubbler (fountain for non Bahstonions) near the rest rooms.

Internationally water fountains are disappearing at airports. I have seen some studies that indicated the water fountains that were tested actually contained more bacteria than the toilets. Some airports, I think in Canada, are actually installing more water fountains. Some with two spigots, one for drinking and the other for filling water bottles. But there still lies the problem of cleaning the fountains. Most are merely wiped down while the bacteria grows inside the tubing.

Some friends drove me to a hospital after a motorcycle crash back in the days (1993) before helmet laws here in CA. 

I had a big gash over my eye and the skin was hanging down over my eye. ( at first I thought I was blinded  :o )

The E.R. asked me if I had any insurance...  I told them no,  I did not.

They said without insurance there was nothing they can do.      So,   I got up and I was headed towards the exit door when a couple nurses came out grabbed me by my arms and ushered me into the operating room.

I never got a bill for those 29 stitches.

You were very lucky Tony. Sounds like they just lost your file. I will tell you now that we have Medicare and Tricare for Life we no longer get a bill. That may soon change since congress wants to put a annual cap on Medicare. I would hope all the seniors would rise up and squash that.

TonyDtorch

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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #38 on: December 09, 2017, 10:51:20 AM »
Sorry,  but the lobbyist determine how congress votes.

(drain the swamp  ;) )

Oldgator73

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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #39 on: December 09, 2017, 10:54:03 AM »
Sorry,  but the lobbyist determine how congress votes.

(drain the swamp  ;) )

Ha! You need to post that over on the Joke page.

TonyDtorch

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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #40 on: December 09, 2017, 02:30:50 PM »
but seriously,

For any emergency medical needs,  You don't need insurance..or to be a citizen, at least here in California.   No hospital ER can ever turn you away if you need emergency medical services. It's the law.

That is a big reason why hospitals are losing money... thus driving up the costs for the 'insured' patients just to stay open.   ( so, who really pays for all those 'anchor babies' ?   :) )
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Oldgator73

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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #41 on: December 09, 2017, 04:13:26 PM »
but seriously,

For any emergency medical needs,  You don't need insurance..or to be a citizen, at least here in California.   No hospital ER can ever turn you away if you need emergency medical services. It's the law.

That is a big reason why hospitals are losing money... thus driving up the costs for the 'insured' patients just to stay open.   ( so, who really pays for all those 'anchor babies' ?   :) )

We pay for the anchor babies. But lumped in with that term are the birth tourism from countries like China. In order to rid us of these types of services we would have to rescind the 14th amendment. Not an easy task. "Anchor babies" and birth tourism costs taxpayers about $6b per year. The uninsured cost us about $200b per year.

The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA)[1] is an act of the United States Congress, passed in 1986 as part of the Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act (COBRA). It requires hospital Emergency Departments that accept payments from Medicare to provide an appropriate medical screening examination (MSE) to anyone seeking treatment for a medical condition, regardless of citizenship, legal status, or ability to pay. Participating hospitals may not transfer or discharge patients needing emergency treatment except with the informed consent or stabilization of the patient or when their condition requires transfer to a hospital better equipped to administer the treatment.[1]
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TonyDtorch

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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #42 on: December 09, 2017, 07:44:30 PM »
it's not just the baby that costs us.....you are forgetting cost of all the public services for the whole family of the anchor baby. They get to stay here now.

and the 14th amendment guarantees with the rights of "citizens"... the baby is the only American citizen.  The mother/family will get WIC and or EBT benefits.
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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #43 on: December 09, 2017, 07:52:11 PM »
...and the 14th amendment deals with the rights of "citizens"... the baby is the only American citizen.

That was never the intention of the guy who wrote the 14th Amendment, Jacob Howard.

"Every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country."

http://www.14thamendment.us/birthright_citizenship/original_intent.html
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TonyDtorch

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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #44 on: December 09, 2017, 07:55:16 PM »
we don't need to 'rescind' or change any laws...we just need to enforce the laws we already have.

What would Canada do ?   ;)



In CA our lawmakers made it illegal to ask for proof of citizenship at voting booths,  they say to vote all you need is a utility bill with your name and CA address and a legal photo ID...

 Then, our esteemed lawmakers passed another law allowing "un-documented" immigrants to get a California drivers license.. making our roads much safer.

We're done... :-\.   
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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #45 on: December 09, 2017, 09:45:44 PM »
That is a big reason why hospitals are losing money... thus driving up the costs for the 'insured' patients just to stay open.   ( so, who really pays for all those 'anchor babies' ?   :)

Let me guess:  the same people who paid for the 29 stitches you needed when you were uninsured and riding a motorcycle without a helmet?

TonyDtorch

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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #46 on: December 09, 2017, 09:47:17 PM »
All the state and federal taxes I've paid over the years should have more than covered all 29 of my no Novocaine stitches.   

I had motorcycle insurance,  I also had a brand new job and thus a health insurance gap in the first days.  and there was no law requiring a helmet.   (it was my sunglasses that cut me ).

You weren't being judgmental ...were you ?  :)

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Oldgator73

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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #47 on: December 10, 2017, 05:28:42 AM »
The bottom line is ER's are required to treat you. It could be their requirement is to just stabilize you until they can get you to another facility. I can see this thread morphing into an immigration rant. Maybe we should get back to entering Canada with a DUI on your record. I don't have a DUI or anything else that Canada can construe as an " indictable" offense. So I think I am good to enter w/o too much hassle. And I do want to go but not right now. Too cold.

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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #48 on: December 10, 2017, 07:09:03 AM »
I agree with OldGator.  Let's get the thread back on topic. Since I enter Canada at least once a year I will take notice on my next trip if I am asked any question along those lines.   But it would seem that a check of every person in the vehicle, not just the driver, would be required to insure no DUIs are allowed in.

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Oldgator73

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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #49 on: December 10, 2017, 07:42:01 AM »
We have an American friend that has lived and worked in Canada for many years. I'll ask her if she knows anything about rules crossing the border.

TonyDtorch

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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #50 on: December 10, 2017, 09:25:31 AM »
We would be much better off with the same Canadian immigration rules here in America,   but our sanctuary cities may get really upset.
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Oldgator73

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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #51 on: December 10, 2017, 09:28:27 AM »
We would be much better off with the same the same immigration enforcement rules in America,   but our sanctuary cities would be really upset.

Tony! We're trying to keep this thread on the OP's original track. I'm trying to turn over a new leaf here and keep my comments as apolitical as possible. You should do the same.

TonyDtorch

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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #52 on: December 10, 2017, 09:33:32 AM »
Sorry, you are right.

  Immigration and crossing borders are hot topics,     Living out here in California gets a little frustrating.. ;D
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Oldgator73

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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #53 on: December 10, 2017, 09:38:38 AM »
Okay. But you know you could move to Alabama.  :P

TonyDtorch

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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #54 on: December 10, 2017, 09:39:19 AM »
Okay. But you know you could move to Alabama.  :P

Might be a good idea  ;)

and Florida is over there too  ?
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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #55 on: December 10, 2017, 10:04:53 AM »
and it's not just a DUI ether.   any Felony is reason for entry denial.

I know a guy that is paying an attorney to petition a court to reduce his 1970 felony possession of Marijuana conviction to a misdemeanor,   so now that he's retired he can see all the beauty of Canada and Alaska in his RV.     
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Oldgator73

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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #56 on: December 10, 2017, 10:13:17 AM »
I thought it had to be an indictable offense in Canada.

TonyDtorch

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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #57 on: December 10, 2017, 10:30:55 AM »
After 911, it was enough to deny him the right to buy a firearm... so now he is worried about it going to Canada.

in about 20 days ... his felony won't be an 'indictable' offence here in CA.
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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #58 on: December 10, 2017, 11:10:37 AM »
   Possession of marijuana is a felony in Canada.  The law is scheduled to change July 1, 2018 but existing convictions will stand and the police and justice system have been instructed to continue to prosecute offenders.  Go figure!

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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #59 on: December 10, 2017, 12:21:39 PM »
You weren't being judgmental ...were you ?  :)

No more than some other people here; it's just more noticeable when you're the one being judge.