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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #60 on: March 06, 2018, 05:09:41 AM »
In order to be barred from entry into Canada the offence on your record has to equal an offence in Canada.  If the offence in the USA is not an offence in Canada you can enter, which is why draft dodgers were allowed entry into Canada.

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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #61 on: March 06, 2018, 06:33:26 AM »
My friend went to Canada last summer and I happen to know he does have one DUI on his record.

They did ask him to get out of the camper van while they did a walk though, transferred him to their office, awhile later, they returned his paperwork and keys, allowing him into Canada. He was pleasant about it all, and says they were fairly pleasant about it too. He didn't see anything disturbed in his rig, wonders if they were just curious or what.

He was using the same driver license from the same state where he earned his DUI. I will have to ask him if it has been 10 years or not. I recall when it happened, just not how many years ago.

He is 70 with long hair and a ponytail.

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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #62 on: March 06, 2018, 09:26:03 AM »
I wish America's borders were as well controlled as Canada's..

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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #63 on: March 07, 2018, 07:58:57 AM »
I wish America's borders were as well controlled as Canada's..

Believe it or not Tony, more than a few foreigners are crossing into Canada via Minnesota and North Dakota border - not at the legal crossings but just by walking over.  Surprising is that Canadian government is not all that happy about it.  Gee whiz.

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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #64 on: March 07, 2018, 09:12:08 AM »
The big difference....

In Canada if they catch you there illegally,  you will be deported.       

In California...... you are given a drivers license. 

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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #65 on: March 07, 2018, 09:43:19 AM »
This is off topic and has been covered in a previous string.  However, my limited understanding of the law is that if they show up at a border crossing and ask for asylum Canadian law says that since the US is a trusted partner, they by definition cannot be a refugee.  However, if they make it across the border, then show up at any border services office, they will be considered for entry.  So, there have been a significant number of previously legal American residents, who came under non immigrant type entries, for example Haitians, or Nicaraguans, etc, who are under threat of deportation who are heading north. 

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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #66 on: March 07, 2018, 09:48:07 AM »
 I believe Alec Baldwin is now living there as a refugee.....     ;)

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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #67 on: March 07, 2018, 10:05:40 AM »
Really Tony? You need to give it up too.
I know you believe you understand what you think I said,
But I am not sure you realize what you heard is not what I meant


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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #68 on: March 07, 2018, 10:16:50 AM »
sorry,   It was meant as humor.

and all good humor has foundation of truth.

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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #69 on: March 07, 2018, 02:16:46 PM »
No Tony, we wouldn't let him in, he looks too much like some elsy

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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #70 on: March 08, 2018, 07:25:55 AM »
This is off topic and has been covered in a previous string.  However, my limited understanding of the law is that if they show up at a border crossing and ask for asylum Canadian law says that since the US is a trusted partner, they by definition cannot be a refugee.  However, if they make it across the border, then show up at any border services office, they will be considered for entry.  So, there have been a significant number of previously legal American residents, who came under non immigrant type entries, for example Haitians, or Nicaraguans, etc, who are under threat of deportation who are heading north. 

Ed

You said it much better than I did Ed.  It is the non-immigrant types you mention who were previously on temporary legal visas because of natural disasters in their country (Haiti) or for other reasons.  Since they walk across the border and avoid border stations I always wondered why they did just not present themselves at a border station as a refugee.  Your post answered that.

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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #71 on: March 08, 2018, 07:27:56 AM »
Really Tony? You need to give it up too.
Please try to recognize a bit of humor.  Heavens knows it works both ways.

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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #72 on: March 08, 2018, 07:50:16 AM »
Yeah, no excuses, sometimes I just need to lighten up. It's not like there wasn't a wink added there. I'm sure my humor doesn't get taken as humor at times.
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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #73 on: March 08, 2018, 08:15:51 AM »
Bill I am sure that an immigration lawyer could provide a legalese explanation, but I have read that is the gist of it.  However, with all that is being reviewed and negotiated between our 2 countries, who know what will be the laws tomorrow.

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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #74 on: March 08, 2018, 12:37:52 PM »
No Tony, we wouldn't let him in, he looks too much like some elsy

Ed

okay....but ...What's an 'elsy' ?    :D

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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #75 on: March 08, 2018, 07:07:52 PM »
Bill I am sure that an immigration lawyer could provide a legalese explanation, but I have read that is the gist of it.  However, with all that is being reviewed and negotiated between our 2 countries, who know what will be the laws tomorrow.

Ed
What makes me smile Ed is that our daughter now lives in Canada and even stayed there despite getting a divorce but she now tells us what an odd country the USA is...............lol
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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #76 on: March 09, 2018, 06:00:47 AM »
okay....but ...What's an 'elsy' ?    :D

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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #77 on: March 09, 2018, 06:14:12 AM »
Phat fingers

According to the Urban Dictionary P.H.A.T. is an acronym for Pretty Hot and Tempting. So elsy means pretty hot and tempting fingers.
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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #78 on: March 09, 2018, 06:52:08 AM »
Thanks Gator, my wife says that too   ;)

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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #79 on: June 12, 2018, 08:05:44 AM »
New to the conversation here, but we are headed up to Niagara Falls for a quick day visit in a little over a week from now.  We've never been to Canada, so we thought it would be a way to drive over (without our travel trailer), spend a day, and drive back to our camp and then do some other things.  16 years ago I got a DUI that was knocked down to a Public Intoxication. 

Before we go is there someone to call at the border or near the border to check ahead of time if it is going to be a problem to cross?  Has anyone done this before?

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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #80 on: June 12, 2018, 08:21:44 AM »
http://www.canadaduientrylaw.com/

Unfortunately, getting into Canada with a DUI is not as simple as showing up at the border with a valid United States passport. If you have ever been arrested or convicted for driving under the influence of drugs or alcohol, regardless of whether it was a misdemeanor or felony offense, you may be criminally inadmissible to Canada and denied entry. Regardless of whether or not you have any intention to drive while in the country, a DUI (including civil infractions and "Actual Physical Control DUI" violations) can cause you to get turned away at the border and can impede your eligibility across all Canadian immigration programs.

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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #81 on: June 12, 2018, 09:08:59 AM »
  16 years ago I got a DUI that was knocked down to a Public Intoxication. 

Before we go is there someone to call at the border or near the border to check ahead of time if it is going to be a problem to cross?  Has anyone done this before?

If it was knocked down from a DUI, I would think you'd be OK. Do you have any documentation that would relate to that which you could bring with you? It may help.
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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #82 on: June 12, 2018, 03:07:42 PM »
For what it is worth, the US has similar laws.  An acquaintance went to a wedding in Manitoba in the 1970's when he was in his 20's.  $ of them were partying and decided to cross into North Dakota, he was Not driving, but they were denied entry into the US for being inebriated.  About 5 years ago, he was coming from Ontario to his park model in Florida, and was denied entry because of that previous occurrence.  It put him in a bad situation, so he waited a few days, went to another border crossing and had no problem getting in, nor has he since.  Go figure, it goes to show how much depends on the individual border guard.
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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #83 on: June 24, 2018, 08:34:17 PM »
Update:  We just got home from our weeks trip up north.  I had no problem getting into Canada.  A whole bunch of worry here for nothing.  We had a great time at Niagara Falls and my 2 girls got to experience Canada for the first time. 

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« Reply #84 on: June 25, 2018, 07:47:32 AM »
Go figure, it goes to show how much depends on the individual border guard.

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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #85 on: June 25, 2018, 07:52:14 AM »
That's it, in a nutshell!   >:(

No. I was not a DUI. It was public intoxication.
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« Reply #86 on: June 25, 2018, 08:01:03 AM »
I'm just saying that the individual customs/border agents have way too much individual power, based on their "feelings".  Been there, live on the Canadian border, and done that, more than once.  That's all, it's just my opinion.  And that's MY big problem with border crossings, no real "rules".  When it comes right down to it an agent can deny you entry based on his/her feelings, at the time, and you have no recourse at that time.
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« Reply #87 on: June 25, 2018, 08:50:46 AM »
When it comes right down to it an agent can deny you entry based on his/her feelings, at the time, and you have no recourse at that time.

I guess you'd have to wait for shift change, HuH?  ;D :D ;) :))
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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #88 on: June 25, 2018, 01:27:06 PM »
Articles hit the papers on both sides of the border this week.  A 19 year old female resident of France was visiting her mother who lives in BC, and she went for a jog.  Unintentionally she crossed the border along the beach, she realized her mistake, turned around and was almost back into Canada.  However, 2 US border guards stopped her just before she crossed and she was placed in custody, transported about 200 miles away, and detained for over 2 weeks.  So, yes, border guards have way too much ability to arbitrarily decide the fate of people who are at the border.

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Re: Crossing into Canada with DUI
« Reply #89 on: June 25, 2018, 04:31:44 PM »
Hey, she got off easy.  A former US Marine took a wrong turn into Mexico and was stopped at the border where he was trying to turn around.  A pistol (as I recall) was in his vehicle. It took a couple of years to get him out.  Not much help from our government either.
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