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Safe to leave gas on while driving?
« on: December 13, 2017, 05:07:56 PM »
Is it safe to leave the propane on to power the fridge while driving to the campsite?

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Re: Safe to leave gas on while driving?
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2017, 05:18:36 PM »
Beat to death topic.
Probably 90% of us do.  The rest seem to think its too scary to do so.

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Re: Safe to leave gas on while driving?
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2017, 05:19:49 PM »
We always travel with the refer running on propane.
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Re: Safe to leave gas on while driving?
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2017, 05:23:41 PM »
Always do
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Re: Safe to leave gas on while driving?
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2017, 05:45:47 PM »
I tried it Once, to see how I liked it....having the fridge cold while we travelled.  I liked it well enough to try it again, and what do ya know...same results.  So, I thought Id try it again..........it's become a habit!  Try it, you'll like it! 
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Re: Safe to leave gas on while driving?
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2017, 05:58:25 PM »
We do also.
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Re: Safe to leave gas on while driving?
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2017, 06:29:18 PM »
We switched to a residential fridge, but we still leave the LP on so we can run the furnace in cold weather while underway.
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Re: Safe to leave gas on while driving?
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2017, 07:11:01 PM »
yES BUT....Turn off any pilot lights/refer while refueling in a service station.
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Re: Safe to leave gas on while driving?
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2017, 07:19:05 PM »
I use to but now I have a residential fridge now and it runs off a inverter.
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Re: Safe to leave gas on while driving?
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2017, 08:40:31 PM »
yES BUT....Turn off any pilot lights/refer while refueling in a service station.

Actually, you need to turn off the water heater and fridge. If the igniters start in, that's what causes problems.
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Re: Safe to leave gas on while driving?
« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2017, 09:32:33 AM »
Watch this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZ5Qe1ESVfU&feature=youtu.be

May not be a good time to have the propane fridge running and propane valves open.


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Re: Safe to leave gas on while driving?
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2017, 11:04:19 AM »
Have never turned it off...

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Re: Safe to leave gas on while driving?
« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2017, 11:38:50 AM »
Only time I turn the gas off is when it goes into a shop for repairs.
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Re: Safe to leave gas on while driving?
« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2017, 01:03:18 PM »
Over the last 20 years with a refrigerator running on propane we turn off the gas when we change tanks or empty the refrigerator at home.
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Re: Safe to leave gas on while driving?
« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2017, 01:19:31 PM »
Beat to death topic.
Probably 90% of us do.  The rest seem to think its too scary to do so.

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Re: Safe to leave gas on while driving?
« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2017, 02:07:47 PM »
Watch this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZ5Qe1ESVfU&feature=youtu.be

May not be a good time to have the propane fridge running and propane valves open.

Still don't see a problem. The propane tanks are outfitted with a safety valve whereas if it senses a large amount of gas leaking such as a broken line, the valve will shut.
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Re: Safe to leave gas on while driving?
« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2017, 05:04:59 AM »
I never have, and never will.
 To me it is a safety issue.

 Others can do as they want to.

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Re: Safe to leave gas on while driving?
« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2017, 07:10:07 AM »
Watch this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZ5Qe1ESVfU&feature=youtu.be

May not be a good time to have the propane fridge running and propane valves open.

Did I miss the fire or explosion?  Besides loose tanks on a trailer and mounted tank on a motorhome are some what different in likelihood of separation from the vehicle.  As several have said, it is a personal choice.  Don't need the hot water because the engine is keeping that heated but do need cold and frozen items in fridge so I let ours run when on the road.

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Re: Safe to leave gas on while driving?
« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2017, 08:42:18 AM »
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Still don't see a problem. The propane tanks are outfitted with a safety valve whereas if it senses a large amount of gas leaking such as a broken line, the valve will shut.

The problem is not so much the propane for the Fridge or hot water heater in YOUR RV itself but if the fridge/heater is left ON, the automatic lighting equipment (DSI) may try to start the fridge/heater and will generates sparks to do so. This can possibly ignite any gasoline fumes that can be found around the gasoline pumps while refueling, especially if someone nearby allows their tank to overflow, spilling gasoline all over the ground.

That is why it is recommended to always shut those appliances down completely when refueling. Running with propane and appliances on does not present that danger usually.
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Re: Safe to leave gas on while driving?
« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2017, 01:52:05 PM »
You'll kill yourself and everyone around you! Or so some people would have you believe. Most of us do it all the time. When was the last time you heard leaving the L.P. gas on was the reason for an explosion or fire?
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Re: Safe to leave gas on while driving?
« Reply #20 on: December 15, 2017, 06:50:31 PM »
Vehicle fires at gas pumps are actually pretty common, most frequently caused by static electricity igniting gasoline vapors. I cringe every time I see someone retreat into their car while fuelling, then jump out and grab the nozzle.

The presence of propane is not hazardous at a gas station. However, knowingly driving into a vapor-rich environment with an potential ignition source such as a DSI is just stupid. Take the time to turn off the appliances.

And despite was the dire warnings posted on the gas pumps, your cellphone is not an ignition hazard.
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Re: Safe to leave gas on while driving?
« Reply #21 on: December 15, 2017, 07:17:42 PM »
Vehicle fires at gas pumps are actually pretty common, most frequently caused by static electricity igniting gasoline vapors. 

As a matter of fact a gentleman from Florida arrived in Springfield, Mo  five days ago and went to gas up his car at a standard gas pump. Static electricity created a fire which burned him badly.  He died this morning.

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Re: Safe to leave gas on while driving?
« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2017, 08:43:15 PM »
10's of 1000's of people do it every day.   

Lot's of rumors about death and destruction,  but I have never met anyone with a first hand experience.



 



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timjet

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Re: Safe to leave gas on while driving?
« Reply #23 on: December 24, 2017, 08:30:45 PM »
I turn propane off while driving. Just not that hard to do.
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Re: Safe to leave gas on while driving?
« Reply #24 on: December 25, 2017, 06:48:04 AM »
I turn propane off while driving. Just not that hard to do.

Very easy to do but might make for a warm fridge after 8-10 hours of driving and opening it for rest stops.  Just never felt the need but, of course, that is a personal decision for each of us.

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Re: Safe to leave gas on while driving?
« Reply #25 on: December 25, 2017, 08:14:28 AM »
Always leave ours on while driving and TRY to remember to turn it off while fueling up. 50-50 on the try. As someone said earlier the engine is heating the water so no need to waste propane there.
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Re: Safe to leave gas on while driving?
« Reply #26 on: December 25, 2017, 12:14:13 PM »
Very easy to do but might make for a warm fridge after 8-10 hours of driving and opening it for rest stops.  Just never felt the need but, of course, that is a personal decision for each of us.

Bill

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Re: Safe to leave gas on while driving?
« Reply #27 on: December 25, 2017, 03:03:57 PM »
The inverter powers the fridge underway and the engine alternator keeps the batts charged.
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Interesting, do you have it plugged into a separate inverter circuit?
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Re: Safe to leave gas on while driving?
« Reply #28 on: December 26, 2017, 07:11:50 AM »
Merry Christmas.
Interesting, do you have it plugged into a separate inverter circuit?
Bill

A call to Fleetwood and I got the answer: The refrig ice maker outlet is wired to the inverter. Their thinking is that with the inverter the ice maker will always be powered irrespective of the refrig power source. Ice will always be available even if the refrig is powered by propane, provided the inverter is on. The refrig power outlet is not powered by the inverter so it will auto go to propane when the campground power is removed.

We don't use the ice maker. So I simply removed the icemaker plug from the inverter powered outlet and replaced it with the refrig plug. I leave the inverter on all the time (except in storage) so the refrig is always powered. In the event we dry camp the refrig will still auto go to propane (provided the propane valve is on) if I turn the inverter off to save battery power.

My arriving at the campground checklist on item #9 is "open propane valve and purge air". My departing the campground checklist item #12 is to close the propane valve. Sorry about the overuse of checklists - I'm a retired airline pilot.

This works well for us, and a Merry Christmas to you to as well Bill.
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Re: Safe to leave gas on while driving?
« Reply #29 on: December 26, 2017, 11:13:54 AM »
   Sorry about the overuse of checklists - I'm a retired airline pilot.

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