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vito55

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I need a new Ford truck!
« on: December 18, 2017, 08:29:44 AM »
I just saw a Ford ad on TV, featuring the trailer back-up feature. For people like me who have trouble backing up a trailer into a tight space this looks like the ultimate answer. My wife won't be  happy when I tell her we should trade in our new Dodge Durango, lost thousands of dollars, and spend even more on a truck that we really don't need, but boy, that back-up feature is cool!
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Joezeppy

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Re: I need a new Ford truck!
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2017, 08:44:00 AM »
Why stop there? I just read an article in the 2018 Trailer Life Towing Guide about a new F-450, the "Signature Series" or something like that they call it: $94,000!
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Old Racer

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Re: I need a new Ford truck!
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2017, 08:59:52 AM »
Once upon a time, in an earlier version of this planet, I bought a brand new bright red Porsche for $4200, which likely would not cover the price of the tires and rims on one today.

Best grab that truck before the price goes up!

TonyDtorch

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Re: I need a new Ford truck!
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2017, 09:01:54 AM »
A little practice might save you a bunch of money.

A full blown trucking school is only about $1200 and they can teach your Grandmother to dock a semi.
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Old_Crow

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Re: I need a new Ford truck!
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2017, 10:01:16 AM »
I know I'm getting old, everyone tells me this constantly(and social security seems to agree), but every time I see one of those commercials where the vehicle parks itself, or the parent is teaching the kid to back the car using the back up camera instead of actually looking around it just pisses me off.  The other one that really gets my goat is the mom and dad and kid zooming through the mountains when the car saves them from rear ending an old '80's motor home stopped for a deer.
I learned to drive at 11...in a VW Beetle(manual trans)...on mountain 1.5 lane roads.  Towed my first RV(16' Aristocrat Land Commander TT)on the day I got my learners permit at 16.  By the time I got my full license 6 months later I could back a 8' wide U haul trailer into a 9' wide driveway in one shot(did it on a bet with my dad).
All this reliance on technology is fine, but I still think the kids should be taught to drive the old fashioned way.  I was an auto repair tech for far too long to believe all this stuff couldn't fail at some point, and then where would the kids be?
Alright, I'll quit now.  Thanks for letting me vent.

As far as the prices of new vehicles, I won't even go there.
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massspike

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Re: I need a new Ford truck!
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2017, 10:50:39 AM »
I just saw a Ford ad on TV, featuring the trailer back-up feature. For people like me who have trouble backing up a trailer into a tight space this looks like the ultimate answer. My wife won't be  happy when I tell her we should trade in our new Dodge Durango, lost thousands of dollars, and spend even more on a truck that we really don't need, but boy, that back-up feature is cool!

Not worth it. It works best on long relatively straight back-ins. If you have to make some sharp turns, forget it. Its also slow to engage and it has trouble locating the sticker on sunny days.

However, the newer BLIS system that works while towing is worth it so get out your check book and support the Dearborne economy.

Badlands Bob

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Re: I need a new Ford truck!
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2017, 11:09:28 AM »
The backup camera on the tailgate is the greatest thing since sliced bread.  Makes backing up to hitch up the trailer so much easier.
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Roy M

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Re: I need a new Ford truck!
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2017, 11:43:32 AM »
My tail gate comes off when I'm towing the fifth wheel, what am I supposed to do then? Use my mirrors? I use an aftermarket flow through.

Badlands Bob

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Re: I need a new Ford truck!
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2017, 08:04:56 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkpgsKU6yQ8

Ford F-250 has a camera so you can watch your 5th wheel hook up.  If you have the money, Ford has the camera.
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steveblonde

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Re: I need a new Ford truck!
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2017, 08:44:31 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkpgsKU6yQ8

Ford F-250 has a camera so you can watch your 5th wheel hook up.  If you have the money, Ford has the camera.

My 2017 F350 dually has the camera system for the 5 th wheel and it works really well once you get used to it, plus the other 6 cameras but at $100,000 incl tax its  a lot to swallow .
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viceprice

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Re: I need a new Ford truck!
« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2017, 12:49:04 AM »
I know I'm getting old, everyone tells me this constantly(and social security seems to agree), but every time I see one of those commercials where the vehicle parks itself, or the parent is teaching the kid to back the car using the back up camera instead of actually looking around it just pisses me off.  The other one that really gets my goat is the mom and dad and kid zooming through the mountains when the car saves them from rear ending an old '80's motor home stopped for a deer.
I learned to drive at 11...in a VW Beetle(manual trans)...on mountain 1.5 lane roads.  Towed my first RV(16' Aristocrat Land Commander TT)on the day I got my learners permit at 16.  By the time I got my full license 6 months later I could back a 8' wide U haul trailer into a 9' wide driveway in one shot(did it on a bet with my dad).
All this reliance on technology is fine, but I still think the kids should be taught to drive the old fashioned way.  I was an auto repair tech for far too long to believe all this stuff couldn't fail at some point, and then where would the kids be?
Alright, I'll quit now.  Thanks for letting me vent.
Right on! Amen!
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Frizlefrak

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Re: I need a new Ford truck!
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2017, 02:07:50 AM »
Maybe it's my deep seated trust issues that prevent me from turning that electronic monster loose and trusting it to back my RV into my camping spot and stop it in time to not drop it in the river that is burbling 20' below.  I fully trust my eyeballs working in conjunction with my right foot to not allow that to happen.
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Re: I need a new Ford truck!
« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2017, 06:11:08 AM »
I learned how to back up a trailer when I was 14 or 15 years old.  Dad and I used to go fishing at this little power plant lake and the access road had a turn-a-round at the Top to be able to get your rig turned around, then it was a 1/3 mile, barely wide enough for the car and trailer, back down to the water and unload.  Dad always told me to learn by.....
1.  Using my mirrors
2.  Reference the bottom of the steering wheel and imagine an arrow pointing both left and right.  If you need to make the trailer go right ( towards the passenger side), move the bottom of the steering wheel to the right....and of course vice versa to go left.  I've done it for so long now, I really don't have to think about it anymore.....it's instinct.

I will say though, I really like that back up camera on the tailgate for lining up the hitch to the trailer....but I still have my D.W. guide me to exactly how far I need to back in to be centered over the ball on the hitch.
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steveblonde

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Re: I need a new Ford truck!
« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2017, 08:52:47 AM »
I learned how to back up a trailer when I was 14 or 15 years old.  Dad and I used to go fishing at this little power plant lake and the access road had a turn-a-round at the Top to be able to get your rig turned around, then it was a 1/3 mile, barely wide enough for the car and trailer, back down to the water and unload.  Dad always told me to learn by.....
1.  Using my mirrors
2.  Reference the bottom of the steering wheel and imagine an arrow pointing both left and right.  If you need to make the trailer go right ( towards the passenger side), move the bottom of the steering wheel to the right....and of course vice versa to go left.  I've done it for so long now, I really don't have to think about it anymore.....it's instinct.


I will say though, I really like that back up camera on the tailgate for lining up the hitch to the trailer....but I still have my D.W. guide me to exactly how far I need to back in to be centered over the ball on the hitch.

Me too maybe we are related lol
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Re: I need a new Ford truck!
« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2017, 09:32:00 AM »
Me too maybe we are related lol

Could be.....twin sons of different mothers!     :))
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KandT

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Re: I need a new Ford truck!
« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2017, 12:53:43 PM »
Just get a class A
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Re: I need a new Ford truck!
« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2017, 02:29:07 PM »
I know I'm getting old, everyone tells me this constantly(and social security seems to agree), but every time I see one of those commercials where the vehicle parks itself, or the parent is teaching the kid to back the car using the back up camera instead of actually looking around it just pisses me off.  The other one that really gets my goat is the mom and dad and kid zooming through the mountains when the car saves them from rear ending an old '80's motor home stopped for a deer.
I learned to drive at 11...in a VW Beetle(manual trans)...on mountain 1.5 lane roads.  Towed my first RV(16' Aristocrat Land Commander TT)on the day I got my learners permit at 16.  By the time I got my full license 6 months later I could back a 8' wide U haul trailer into a 9' wide driveway in one shot(did it on a bet with my dad).
All this reliance on technology is fine, but I still think the kids should be taught to drive the old fashioned way.  I was an auto repair tech for far too long to believe all this stuff couldn't fail at some point, and then where would the kids be?
Alright, I'll quit now.  Thanks for letting me vent.

As far as the prices of new vehicles, I won't even go there.
I'm right there with you. When my son (now in his thirties, teaching 7th grade math) was in the 4th grade, I asked his teacher to bear down on my son's spelling skills. The teacher replied, "I don't care too much about spelling. When these kids are grownups, they will all have spell checkers." I almost punched the dope.
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TonyDtorch

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Re: I need a new Ford truck!
« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2017, 07:44:57 PM »
According to JD Powers

the highest number of consumer complaints are "Technology errors" ....the more features a vehicle has,  the more complaints they have.

Some people say...K.I.S.S. .   

TonyDtorch

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Re: I need a new Ford truck!
« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2017, 07:48:20 PM »
However...

I love those hidden folding foot steps they have built into the rocker panels on the new Ford Explorers... ;)

Old_Crow

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Re: I need a new Ford truck!
« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2017, 06:46:26 AM »
I'm not knocking the steps, sun roofs, automatic day/night mirrors, stuff like that.  What gets me is the stuff that replaces what, to me, should be basic driving skills.
I love the back up camera on my coach, but I still use the mirrors and a spotter when backing into a spot. 
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Badlands Bob

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Re: I need a new Ford truck!
« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2017, 09:04:33 AM »
I still marvel at the genius of the spray in bed liner.  But then, I'm easily impresses.  I don't think I'll ever get use to heated seats and satellite radio.  I just doesn't seem right in a pickup, but it is nice.
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TonyDtorch

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Re: I need a new Ford truck!
« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2017, 12:54:18 PM »
I still marvel at the genius of the spray in bed liner.  But then, I'm easily impresses.  I don't think I'll ever get use to heated seats and satellite radio.  I just doesn't seem right in a pickup, but it is nice.

Heated seats is the best thing since sliced bread.  What I'd like is a One Ton Lincoln Towncar truck.. ;D
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HappyWanderer

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Re: I need a new Ford truck!
« Reply #22 on: December 20, 2017, 02:12:52 PM »
Technology is great, but nothing beats the satisfaction of backing into a tight spot or lining up right on top of the ball (without a camera), especially when there's a crowd of people at the campground watching!
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Badlands Bob

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Re: I need a new Ford truck!
« Reply #23 on: December 20, 2017, 04:46:20 PM »
My kids laugh at me when I drag out my state map collection.  I do use the GPS sometimes, but I don't trust it.   
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Boonieman

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Re: I need a new Ford truck!
« Reply #24 on: December 20, 2017, 06:59:30 PM »
I love all the bells and whistles on my truck, but I can still drive a stick shift on the floor, the column, or a split diff. I was at my moms awhile back and she is getting pretty far up there in age and she drug out some show boxes loaded with pictures of us boys when we were kids, our grandparents, great grandparents, and great great grandparents. When my daughter was growing up, I took some pictures but I was always one of those that wanted to have the latest and greatest, so a lot of my memories were on VHS, no wait, Hi-8, no maybe it was MiniDVD, or other formats....I had them all. Now, none of these formats are supported, the cameras donít work, and everything is now digital....so I donít have any of those videos. I like to watch history shows and a lot about old cave paintings and rock carvings. There are also shows of previous mysterious cultures with no written history. The theory is that they were very primitive even though they had some huge, seemingly advanced cities. Sometimes I fear we are outsmarting ourselves. But the self backing up truck sounds kinda cool in concept. 😄
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Re: I need a new Ford truck!
« Reply #25 on: December 20, 2017, 07:14:50 PM »
Isn't there a way to convert all your film to digital?
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YLBlues

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Re: I need a new Ford truck!
« Reply #26 on: December 20, 2017, 07:41:03 PM »
We just sent about 20 reels of Super 8 to Costco, to be converted to DVD.  Will takes 3-4 weeks and run $100-120.  Hopefully the content didnít deteriorate from sitting in a box for 30 years or more.

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Re: I need a new Ford truck!
« Reply #27 on: December 20, 2017, 08:36:57 PM »
I guess I must be fortunate. I still have my movie projector to run my 8mm/Super 8mm film, my slide projector to show old slides (even a retracting screen) and I still have open reel and cassette tape recorder players, as well as VHS and Hi8 cameras/camcorders/VCRs, even a nice turntable, and they all work, so I can still play all my old collections of slides/videos/tapes/etc. I even have a 16mm projector to run a few old films I got from my dad.

I now have some of my stuff copied into the computer, too, but there's so much of it that I may never get it all done.
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Boonieman

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Re: I need a new Ford truck!
« Reply #28 on: December 21, 2017, 05:10:56 PM »
Yeah, mom still has her slide projector and those old photos look pretty good still. The newer magnetic based media, like VHS tapes etc, degrade pretty quickly.
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TonyDtorch

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Re: I need a new Ford truck!
« Reply #29 on: December 21, 2017, 05:45:15 PM »
Yeah, mom still has her slide projector and those old photos look pretty good still. The newer magnetic based media, like VHS tapes etc, degrade pretty quickly.

I still have a top-of-the-line 8 track player (with a FM radio)....  and a bunch of great tapes !   ???
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