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Fedexpsd

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Double towing
« on: December 19, 2017, 06:19:11 PM »
We will be either buying a 5 wheel or a TT. Would like to tow a Tj jeep behind it. Will it tow ok behind each? I have a F350 dually tow vehicle

Jim Godward

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Re: Double towing
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2017, 06:36:28 PM »
We will be either buying a 5 wheel or a TT. Would like to tow a Tj jeep behind it. Will it tow ok behind each? I have a F350 dually tow vehicle
Check with the states you will be traveling, CA requires a CDL with dual endorsement, Montana only allows a small boat to be double towed and many states do not allow at all.  Check carefully to understand the rules.

Also check with the trailer manufacturer as the trailer chassis may not be strong enough to allow that much weight to be towed.
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Re: Double towing
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2017, 06:43:20 PM »
Along with Jim's good advice, most states that do allow doubles require that the first towed unit is a 5th wheel.
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Re: Double towing
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2017, 07:41:06 PM »
Both are very correct.  Rules vary by state.  Like speed limits, the state you are in sets the rules there, not the state your drivers license was issued in.  Google State Towing Laws.   

Here is one such link.     http://www.hitchemup.com/statetowinglaws.htm

You could go with a toy hauler and carry the Jeep inside.  I looked at doing that for my Miata.
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Re: Double towing
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2017, 12:34:32 AM »
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Re: Double towing
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2017, 06:24:25 AM »
More to the point - Why? Would you want to tow a Jeep - for offroading? Or to drive when stopped somewhere? Why i ask is because maybe if for off roading you should be looking at a toy hauler or a camper for the truck and a large flat deck for the Jeep. Or just forget driving the Jeep?
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Re: Double towing
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2017, 07:00:49 AM »
Let me be the first. Welcome to the forum.
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Fedexpsd

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Re: Double towing
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2017, 07:47:01 AM »
Thanks for the replyís. We live in Memphis Tn and going to Yellowstone or Tetons to work from
April to October, pulling the jeep for a daily driver. We will be shuffling grand children in out out all summer plus will be having lots of friends visit. Wanting to stay in the $20,000 field. Iíve have no idea what I need? Need to sleep at least 6 comfortably, this once a year trip is probably all we will Use it, but itís a 5 month trip. Iím a retired mechanic but not t looking for work. Lol. Thanks so much for any advise

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Re: Double towing
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2017, 07:53:25 AM »
To sleep 6 you probably need to look at a Class B   C  RV and drag the Jeep as a toad.
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Re: Double towing
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2017, 08:14:06 AM »
Thanks for the replyís. We live in Memphis Tn and going to Yellowstone or Tetons to work from
April to October, pulling the jeep for a daily driver. We will be shuffling grand children in out out all summer plus will be having lots of friends visit. Wanting to stay in the $20,000 field. Iíve have no idea what I need? Need to sleep at least 6 comfortably, this once a year trip is probably all we will Use it, but itís a 5 month trip. Iím a retired mechanic but not t looking for work. Lol. Thanks so much for any advise

Rather than chance something bad happening to that 'train' I would suggest you have your significant other drive the Jeep.  It may take you an extra day or two but with the 5ver you could always have a place to rest the extra driver if needed.  Since it is only once in 5 months I would not bother to take the risk of driving doubles regardless of the law but because if you have never done it you will find it is a whole new world on the highways and in winds.  JMHO

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Re: Double towing
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2017, 08:55:31 AM »
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To sleep 6 you probably need to look at a Class B RV

Did you really mean Class B?   Class B motorhomes are barely able to sleep two, let alone 6. ???
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Re: Double towing
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2017, 09:02:46 AM »
To sleep 6 you probably need to look at a Class B RV and drag the Jeep as a toad.

Stu, have you had your 4th cup of coffee yet?   ;D :D ;)  Really, a Class B.   :o ::) :'(
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Re: Double towing
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2017, 09:20:59 AM »
Did you really mean Class B?   Class B motorhomes are barely able to sleep two, let alone 6. ???


No, I meant to type a Class C!!! (corrected)....
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Re: Double towing
« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2017, 09:23:11 AM »
Stu, have you had your 4th cup of coffee yet?   ;D :D ;)  Really, a Class B.   :o ::) :'(

Nope, barely finished the one!!! Corrected my error..... Thanks for waking me up!! :P
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Re: Double towing
« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2017, 10:40:53 AM »
The only thing about a class A is maintenance on the power train and tires. If I tow something I wouldnít really donít need a jeep, I can  get around
With my tow vehicle, question now is whatís best value? a fivers or a TT, me and Wife need to be able separate a little. Lol. A class C is too small. Last summer we rented a 32í class c for 10 days and we would kill each other in that configuration, What one is the best value. Iíve pulled trailers all my life so Iím comfortable pulling either. Thanks for your help.

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Re: Double towing
« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2017, 11:28:07 AM »
Without many details I'd say it may be one of those things that you can do but do you really want to and I do double tow. I'd also probably recommend that someone drive it. Most of the items I see behind FW are usually boats which are not real heavy, motorcycles, quads and sxs on utility trailers. I'd also guesstimate that what I see is probably around 2500 pounds or less. You also need to consider the cost of brake activation, tow rigging etc.

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Re: Double towing
« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2017, 12:00:53 PM »
...me and Wife need to be able separate a little. Lol.


A few years ago we met a couple with a large 5th wheel being pulled by a GMC MDT. They also had a scooter on the back of the 5th wheel and a Jeep. I asked if he double towed and he said no and then joked "We are together all the time - we need SOME time apart".
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Re: Double towing
« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2017, 05:50:19 PM »
You may wish to start a new thread about the type of camper.

Visit lots of dealers and look at as many units as your knees can handle.  Include Class A Bunk house, and lots of FW and TT including bunk house and TH models.  In a fairly short time, some styles and floor plans will eliminate themselves.  Some options will scream MUST HAVE!  while others may scream NO WAY.

Ask lots of questions and enjoy the search.
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Re: Double towing
« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2017, 12:14:33 AM »
Fedexpsd said "Last summer we rented a 32í class c for 10 days and we would kill each other in that configuration"

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Re: Double towing
« Reply #19 on: December 25, 2017, 04:20:44 PM »
We will be either buying a 5 wheel or a TT. Would like to tow a Tj jeep behind it. Will it tow ok behind each? I have a F350 dually tow vehicle
I towed this for a few years. 31,800# and 72'10" long.  You should have no problem. Probably illegal in most states
but I was never pulled over.  We were full time working in the lower 48.  I'm sure the weight Police will chime in. ;D
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Re: Double towing
« Reply #20 on: December 26, 2017, 11:53:48 AM »
Rather than chance something bad happening to that 'train' I would suggest you have your significant other drive the Jeep.  It may take you an extra day or two but with the 5ver you could always have a place to rest the extra driver if needed.  Since it is only once in 5 months I would not bother to take the risk of driving doubles regardless of the law but because if you have never done it you will find it is a whole new world on the highways and in winds.  JMHO

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Re: Double towing
« Reply #21 on: December 26, 2017, 01:27:21 PM »
With having a diesel, even before I double towed and with the tight design of many gas stations I usually went to a truck stop. Now that I double tow I just about always go to a truck stop. Downside of truck lanes is they are sometimes filthy but there is usually room to park for lunch etc. Trying to approach a gas station and see where to go and judge the amount of room to get through it was extremely  stressful. No room for errors or I'd be disconnecting and trying to push and maneuver 2500 lbs of toys. 

If you do go to truck lanes have your stuff together so you can get in and out fast.  I got a pilot card so I could quit having to go inside to pay first. Truck lanes wouldn't take my CC.

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Re: Double towing
« Reply #22 on: December 26, 2017, 03:58:06 PM »
Another problem with trying to use the truck lanes is many have high speed nozzles.  They're made to fill the saddle tanks on large trucks where they're inserted directly into the tank.

The flow is too fast to use on pickup trucks unless the tank filler has been modified to take the faster flow.
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Re: Double towing
« Reply #23 on: December 26, 2017, 08:57:10 PM »
Another problem with trying to use the truck lanes is many have high speed nozzles.  They're made to fill the saddle tanks on large trucks where they're inserted directly into the tank.

The flow is too fast to use on pickup trucks unless the tank filler has been modified to take the faster flow.

I learned about that when I had fuel all over the place. Some nozzles are worst than others but it's often touchy and you cant even lock onto the first notch.

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Re: Double towing
« Reply #24 on: December 27, 2017, 06:18:43 AM »
I learned about that when I had fuel all over the place. Some nozzles are worst than others but it's often touchy and you cant even lock onto the first notch.
Since I have a gas engine I don't use the truck lanes but do have the same problem in that in about 80 percent of the pumps I cannot even get to the first notch for filling so I have to manually hold the darn pump handle for what seems like hours.  I have checked all the venting, etc, but find no problem.  Just the nature of the beast with my coach.


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Re: Double towing
« Reply #25 on: February 07, 2018, 03:05:51 PM »
I know here in WA state, pulling a "triple train" is illegal... thank heaven.  Check the states you plan on traveling through.

Editorial comment:  coming from Montana, I'd see these long vacation units made up of a pickup filled with kids and dog, a 'yuge' 5th wheel toy hauler, and a 19' ski boat caboosing it all, winding and swerving past me up a hill on the interstate at 70mph like the tail on an out-of-control kite --  I'd think  " dude, you call that a vacation???!"  My blood pressure would be boiling! 
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