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Boonieman

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Security for remotely-stored RVís, etc
« on: December 24, 2017, 07:35:57 PM »
Our driveway is about a half mile long, winding down thru woods and thru a covered bridge, no way to get our 5th wheel toy hauler down to the house. We also have a few acres across the county road from our driveway, so when we had a pole barn built thatís where we put it so we could store the RV and some other stuff in it.....easy access, close to the paved road. Unlike our house which is armed with great alert dogs and other deterrents, the building sits up there unattended and potentially an easy target. We did install an alarm system with motion detectors and door sensors (no WiFi) and this system will text our phones in the event of an alarm condition. It is a 3G based system and works pretty good, but we have had an occasional false alarm.....a couple of them in the wee hours of the morning. That meant getting up, driving up to the building to check, and so far false alarms thank goodness, but a pain. I can get WiFi up there for a camera system, but down here in the sticks itís a locally owned phone company and WiFi for just that building is about $70 a month. Iím not doing that. My better half was researching game cameras this fall. We ended up mounting one high up on the building. It is set up to use a 3G phone modem (way more secure than WiFi, no hacking) and when the camera takes a picture, it sends a message to our phones saying that the camera just took a picture and the modem transmits the picture. The camera is designed to be outdoors and has a flashless infrared feature for night pictures. You do have to pay a month fee for the 3G access, but itís like $10 a month, more if you get a higher data plan, but reasonable. I like this system because if someone destroys the camera, too late, the picture is already on the way. Right now we are using AA batteries and they have been in there a month and still showing 70%. Since it looks like itís working acceptable, Iím going to install an external power supply, but it still has battery backup. I know I canít be the only one whoís has to store something out of our line of sight, so just wanted to pass along how we cope with it. Iím sure there are as good or better ideas out there, just what we are doing, for now anyway. Iím attempting to attach a photo of when I was pulling up to the building as an example.
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Re: Security for remotely-stored RVís, etc
« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2017, 07:29:00 AM »
 Go to google and look up what a paragraph is.>>>D
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Re: Security for remotely-stored RVís, etc
« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2017, 07:47:36 AM »
The picture is good enough to get a license plate number.

How long after taking the first picture does it take another?

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« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2017, 08:21:51 AM »
Go to google and look up what a paragraph is.>>>D

Right, must be your finger gets tired following the line of print?  🤔

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« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2017, 10:09:28 AM »
The cellular 3G based systems are very popular and effective as long as you have good cell coverage in the location that the alarm system is located.  It's been used on professionally installed alarm systems for quite a few years now, as lots of folks have gotten away from the traditional phone lines coming into their houses, and the phone lines can't be cut to disable the alarm monitoring to not work.  And since the cellular system is a dedicated service for the alarm, the cost per month is pretty reasonable.  It sounds to me like you've got a pretty good setup and I would probably do as you are going to do.....add an external power supply with the battery as a backup. 
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« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2017, 03:45:53 PM »
A friend of mine is manager of the Chevy dealer in town.  They have all sorts of cameras.  He said that the problem is that some of the people stealing use hoodies and are difficult to catch specially if they don't have previous records.  There are several break-in recorded but still unresolved.  Pretty sad. Just  FYI
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« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2017, 05:37:00 PM »

    First and foremost, I apologize to the paragraph police for my previous rambling post.

    To answer a couple questions, the camera settings can be changed at the camera or from a smart phone app. You can change time delays, camera resolutions, and a few other minor functions from the phone app.
    It is true that if potential intruders were disguised in some way there would be little chance of a criminal prosecution. In reality, as rural as it is here response time from local law inforcement is so long that 911 is basically irrelevant. Iím mostly using the camera to help verify when I get an intrusion report from the building alarm system whether it is false or potentially valid. I donít really need police assistance to run off a couple would be thieves.
    I would love to have a full blown camera system, but the list of things I would love to have far outpaces my poor old pocketbook. 😄
 
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« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2017, 05:56:24 PM »
 Now THAT was a WHOLE lot easier to read and actually made some sense.>>>D
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« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2017, 07:32:34 PM »
Claim jumper you ned to grow up...this ain't no college course ya know...... ::)
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« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2017, 02:49:40 PM »
OK let's not get bogged down with criticisms please.
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Re: Security for remotely-stored RVís, etc
« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2017, 03:59:18 PM »
Hmm... so could you use rechargable AA batteries and a solar panel???

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« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2017, 04:45:27 PM »
I have always felt that my best security was a good insurance policy. Can't stop thieves.
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Boonieman

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« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2017, 08:13:51 PM »
  I have a buddy that texts me and doesnít use capitalization or punctuation marks or anything and it drives me nuts. When Claimjumper called me on my crappy paragraph, I had no defense. I considered it a friendly poke in the ribs, nothing more. I donít waste my time sweating the smalll stuff. 😄





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Re: Security for remotely-stored RVís, etc
« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2017, 08:44:15 AM »
I have always felt that my best security was a good insurance policy. Can't stop thieves.
RichH

So true...but I do like the idea the OP presents here.  I've been thinking about doing the same myself at my S&B house and maybe at the offsite RV too.
it aint gonna stop anyone
and the big problem is that you'd have to be awake to immediately check the text or email that you get on your phone.....AND be actually close enough to get there in time.
But I recon the camera idea is in a sense complimentary to the insurance policy....more so than actually something preventative.
IF someone breaks in, you have a higher chance of getting them arrested
and if they steal something you'll have a higher chance of getting your stuff back
and while it won't eliminate the potential of feeling forever violated, it may hopefully allow you to get some sense of closure and justice when you do get the slug arrested.
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« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2017, 09:12:12 AM »
Go to google and look up what a paragraph is.>>>D
Aw cmon.  Play nice.
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« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2017, 09:17:18 AM »
I have always felt that my best security was a good insurance policy. Can't stop thieves.
RichH

Insurance is great Rich but Smith & Wesson is the BEST security.  However, it depends  on some system to get your attention.  I have been looking at the Ring system that has the camera, reports to your phone and can turn on bright lights.  But Boonieman's wif-fi expense may negate that system.

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Re: Security for remotely-stored RVís, etc
« Reply #16 on: December 28, 2017, 06:47:37 AM »
Insurance is great Rich but Smith & Wesson is the BEST security.  However, it depends  on some system to get your attention.  I have been looking at the Ring system that has the camera, reports to your phone and can turn on bright lights.  But Boonieman's wif-fi expense may negate that system.

Bill

Not so sure about the S&W defense.  When we awoke in a campground to find our toad had been stolen overnight, one of the deputies who responded said, "too bad you didn't have a gun".  I responded, "no, too bad the dogs didn't wake me up."
When the people were caught and the Jeep recovered, we discovered the thieves were already wanted for murder in Ohio.  At that point I figured he'd have been a lot more ready to shoot than I would have after awaking at 3am and stumbling out of the RV door. 
Rather glad it played out the way it did.  They're in jail, I got my Jeep back, and the insurance paid for the stuff they stripped and sold off the Jeep.  And best of all, no one(else)ended up dead.
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« Reply #17 on: December 28, 2017, 08:35:55 AM »
Likely that S&W should be used for defense, not offense. Always the chance they will shoot back!
A shotgun is more effective, and will not kill someone in the next 2 or 3 RVs over! Much better for defense, and if you run out and shoot someone stealing your Jeep, imagine the explaining you would have to do.
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« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2017, 09:08:19 AM »
   Shotgun is great....if it’s use is warranted! Low brass (field load) #8 shot is my recommendation, it will certainly be effective at close range ( which should help your self defense case in court), and minimize chance of injury to someone in the next room (home use) or in the next RV. Much safer and extremely effective (at close range). Also, with the light (field load), a quick repeat shot is much easier...should it be needed (not likely)!   Also, shotguns are legal in most areas, even “blue” states!
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Re: Security for remotely-stored RVís, etc
« Reply #19 on: December 28, 2017, 11:34:33 AM »
   Shotgun is great....if itís use is warranted! Low brass (field load) #8 shot is my recommendation, it will certainly be effective at close range ( which should help your self defense case in court), and minimize chance of injury to someone in the next room (home use) or in the next RV. Much safer and extremely effective (at close range). Also, with the light (field load), a quick repeat shot is much easier...should it be needed (not likely)!   Also, shotguns are legal in most areas, even ďblueĒ states!

Boonieman's description was  of an isolated area, not an RV park. so that is not what I am suggesting.  But having a S&W in your hand when you yell at somebody is better than having a cell phone.  As they say, police are just 5 minutes away but Mr S&W is 5 seconds away.  I know how to use the weapon and have enough smarts to know when to use it but I want to HAVE IT when needed.  Shotgun is hard to fit next to the bed.  If my idea is to inflict minimal damage I would use a shotgun as you say.  But if the opponent is using a pistol, it would be like me bringing a knife to a gun fight.  No doubt there are multiple opinions on this whole issue.

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Re: Security for remotely-stored RVís, etc
« Reply #20 on: December 28, 2017, 02:37:50 PM »
  I mainly use the security system as a deterrent, hopefully. Although we have so many weapons here itís almost embarrassing, I prefer not to have to confront somebody at gunpoint. That is a no-win situation for all involved. If someone breaks in the house while we are home, totally different, they most likely gonna die. My better half is from the Hatfield and McCoy part of the country and I have to rein her in a lot. 😄
  Last summer somebody dumped a bunch of trash and junk at the top of our hill where the driveway is. We are the last place at the end of a small county road, so there is a turnaround there for the school bus, and thatís where they dumped it. I was so mad and had all kinds of preconceived ideas who did it and what I was gonna do when I found out. Dawn went up there and rooted through all that garbage and found a Halloween card from last year addressed to a young lady from Papaw.
   We have a thing here where people in this county can post things for sale or trade on Facebook. I donít do Facebook, but my better half does. She took a picture of that Halloween card and posted it on Facebook and said ďyou have one hour to get this mess cleaned up or Iím calling the cops.Ē And she put her phone number on there.
    Five minutes, if that, this lady called and she was furious for Dawn posting her daughters name on Facebook. After both of them calmed down, it ended up these people were doing some housekeeping and the lady asked her son and buddies to take this stuff to the dump. Instead, these teenagers did what teenagers do and dumped it on our place instead. Those boys were there within 15 minutes and cleaned every bit up, and the mom showed up to make sure they did. It sure wasnít who I thought did it.
   I just wanted to point out that sometimes when my building alarm goes off, I now temper my reaction and response with the possibility it could be some goofy teenage kids.
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Re: Security for remotely-stored RVís, etc
« Reply #21 on: December 28, 2017, 03:10:00 PM »
this thread got me revisiting the idea of installing cameras around my house.
I see that Arlo now offers an LTE version called Arlo GO.
I haven't looked closely at it, but it seems to be on the order of a game camera, but maybe a little different.  perhaps an option to consider for RV monitoring.
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« Reply #22 on: December 28, 2017, 03:58:44 PM »
  I didnít see that Arlo had that option! Good to know, I really like their systems.
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« Reply #23 on: January 22, 2018, 11:54:05 AM »
Looks Good.  Better cameras than my home system.  Can see my house when am out and about  BUT not all areas. I like it.  JM2Ę
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« Reply #24 on: January 22, 2018, 12:38:48 PM »
What is that security system advertised on TV that alerts your phone and you can see the intruders and actually speak to them. I think the commercial I saw was a couple of guys were casing a hose and the owner was alerted (she was away at the time) and she asked what they wanted. They said they were landscapers. She told them they needed to leave since she had already called 911.
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« Reply #25 on: January 22, 2018, 01:17:39 PM »
Oldgator,,
That is Ring.
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« Reply #26 on: January 22, 2018, 02:29:46 PM »
Oldgator,,
That is Ring.

Yes! We were just at Sam's and I saw it there. $245.
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Re: Security for remotely-stored RVís, etc
« Reply #27 on: January 22, 2018, 04:56:15 PM »
Hi Boonieman,

You might consider a simply safe system. You would have to talk with them. They have video along with alarms. I'd suspect because of your distance, you'd need to put in some sort of booster in order to reach the house alarm to alert you.

I tend to worry about someone bothering our house out in the country but have a lot of good neighbors that keep and eye out along with my kids who live near by. I understand your concern.
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Re: Security for remotely-stored RVís, etc
« Reply #28 on: January 22, 2018, 07:01:22 PM »
  Thanks! Iím not too worried about the house. We have three really good alert dogs here. (Labs) They arenít aggressive in the least, but they let us know when somebody or something is around and we take it from there. We are pretty much way back in the woods and somebody would be kinda nuts to come down in here, but the poor ole camper sits up on top by its lonesome. Probably too far from the house even with a booster.
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