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Open mic' offerings
« on: January 05, 2018, 05:53:37 PM »
Getting ready for open mic' offerings, I thought I'd add a George Formby number known by us olde Brits ... 'Leaning On a Lamp(ost)':

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEymZ3rXOmc

One of a few of George's numbers that used a simple strum on his banjo ukulele (except for a breakout near the end). Many of his numbers used his self-taught split strum, which is beyond my strumming abilities. Meanwhile, I'd have to sing an octave (or two) lower.

Yesterday I learned that someone else is planning to audition that number. I'm off to find something else.
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« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2018, 07:11:51 PM »
You could always do "Does your chewing gum lose its flavour on the bedpost overnight" it's a catchy tune and funny......
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« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2018, 07:01:55 AM »
Aye, but Lonnie Donegan had a skiffle band. Don't know how it would sound on ukulele  ;D
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« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2018, 07:29:26 AM »
Give it a go and report back 😁🎶
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« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2018, 11:12:28 AM »
It could be played, with practice; Easy chord progression and Lonnie's skiffle strum. But I wouldn't be ready to perform by Tuesday. Couldn't see the Band playing/singing it, but maybe a small/breakout group comprised of a uke, a bass and a washboard.
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« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2018, 12:54:39 PM »
How about "Shaving Cream".  I think there's about 300 verses.  Make an evening of it!
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« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2018, 02:25:41 PM »
It could be played, with practice; Easy chord progression and Lonnie's skiffle strum. But I wouldn't be ready to perform by Tuesday. Couldn't see the Band playing/singing it, but maybe a small/breakout group comprised on a uke, a bass and a washboard.
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« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2018, 02:27:40 PM »
How about "Shaving Cream".  I think there's about 300 verses.  Make an evening of it!
Had to look that one up, sounds like a song that could get out of control 😁😁
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« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2018, 02:29:08 PM »
You could always do "Does your chewing gum lose its flavour on the bedpost overnight" it's a catchy tune and funny......
It's actually a rewrite/cover of an earlier song, "Does The Spearmint Lose its Flavor On The Bedpost Overnight?", recorded by The Happiness Boys in 1924. Lonnie Donegan simply rewrote it, in part because the word "Spearmint" is trademarked in the UK.

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« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2018, 04:47:50 PM »
Time for some video of you (Tom!) with your actual open mic performances!
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« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2018, 07:35:37 PM »
Scott, we don't video the open mic' sessions, but we have a number of videos of the band's concerts on YouTube. The link(s) to playlists have been posted in the past.


Meanwhile, the purpose of our open mic' sessions is to audition numbers for possible inclusion in future concerts; If the offerings are playable and singable by the band, they have a chance of being selected. Typically, 50% of the numbers in a given concert came from prior open mic's.
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« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2018, 06:29:02 AM »
Getting ready for open mic' offerings, I thought I'd add a George Formby number known by us olde Brits ... 'Leaning On a Lamp(ost)':

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEymZ3rXOmc

One of a few of George's numbers that used a simple strum on his banjo ukulele (except for a breakout near the end). Many of his numbers used his self-taught split strum, which is beyond my strumming abilities. Meanwhile, I'd have to sing an octave (or two) lower.

Yesterday I learned that someone else is planning to audition that number. I'm off to find something else.
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« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2018, 10:51:36 AM »
Did you have a comment/reply JKH?
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« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2018, 03:25:30 PM »

Had to look that one up, sounds like a song that could get out of control 😁😁

That's it's charm!

A woman fell out of a window
Then she had a terrible fit
For when she fell out of the window
She fell into a barrel of .....

Shaving cream, always be clean,
Shave every day and you'll always look keen.

Simple 3/4 rythem and 1-4-5 chords.

Another good one would be Tom Lehrers "An Irish Lullaby".  I have a fake sheet and MP3 if anyone's interested.  (It might be better known as "Rickety tickety Tin".

About a maid I'll sing a song rickety ticketety tin
About a maid I'll sing a song, she didn't have her family long.
Not only did she do them wrong........
She did every one of them in, them in,
She did every one of them in.

This one is 2/4 time and moves along at breakneck speed.  Good thing too, there's plenty of verses.

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« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2018, 04:27:16 PM »
Thanks Russ. Shaving cream is not for me. I have a lead sheet for An Irish Lullaby and a number of other Irish songs; Oops, a different song. I think they'll need to wait until the next open mic' sessions.
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« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2018, 06:42:40 PM »
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Time for some video of you (Tom!) with your actual open mic performances!


Time for some constructive contributions Scott  ;)
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« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2018, 06:49:13 PM »
How about "Shaving Cream".  I think there's about 300 verses.  Make an evening of it!
300 verses? Try many thousands of verses. Dr. Demento (Barry Hansen, a friend of mine) has a weekly radio show playing bizarre and funny records. He used to preform Shaving Creme every week with all brand new verses made up the previous week using the current events of the day. I listened to him for many years and got so sick of the song I would fast forward through it. I used to tape his show since it was on 10 until midnight and I was busy doing other things during those hours.
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« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2018, 07:50:54 PM »
That's where I first heard it.  And when I was old enough to drink my favorite bar, The Boat House in Santa Ana Ca, used to play it about once an hour.
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« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2018, 06:02:24 PM »

Time for some constructive contributions Scott  ;)

I have professional video of myself playing drums at a church gig, but I can't share it here for copyright reasons (seriously).  But I promise, it exists!!  ;D
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« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2018, 06:52:18 PM »
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... I can't share it here for copyright reasons (seriously).

Copyright on the video, or the written music? Usually, copyright applies to copies of written music, whereas performing rights apply to performing or broadcasting music. Usually, the venue is covered for performing rights under a license with one of the 3 main performing rights organizations (ASCAP, BMI or SESAC); If the venue doesn't have a license, it's down to the performer(s) to have a license. I'd be surprised if the church didn't have a license.
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« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2018, 12:53:25 AM »
What I don't understand is how YouTube is able to publish so many performances (amateur and professional) of music that would otherwise require a performing rights license  ???

Here's one, somewhat superficial, explanation in the ASCAP/YouTube agreement announcement.
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« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2018, 04:51:51 AM »
What I don't understand is how YouTube is able to publish so many performances (amateur and professional) of music that would otherwise require a performing rights license  ???

Here's one, somewhat superficial, explanation in the ASCAP/YouTube agreement announcement.
It is called Fair Use:

https://www.youtube.com/yt/about/copyright/fair-use/#yt-copyright-four-factors
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« Reply #22 on: January 10, 2018, 07:34:20 AM »
Copyright on the video, or the written music? Usually, copyright applies to copies of written music, whereas performing rights apply to performing or broadcasting music. Usually, the venue is covered for performing rights under a license with one of the 3 main performing rights organizations (ASCAP, BMI or SESAC); If the venue doesn't have a license, it's down to the performer(s) to have a license. I'd be surprised if the church didn't have a license.

I know the church has bought annual licenses for certain replays (music or movie clips) in the past; and in church services, writing "credits" are required for each tune, which are put on the last projection slide of lyrics.  Honestly I don't know all the reasons in this particular case, just that the weekly email forward with our links mentions that the recordings are for our own review but cannot be shared elsewhere online for copyright reasons.  I haven't asked for further explanations.  :)
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« Reply #23 on: January 10, 2018, 07:59:45 AM »
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It is called Fair Use:

I understand fair use in respect of copyrighted material, but I was talking about performing rights. Let's say I perform a cover of Tom Seiler's composition of the song Condors Over Grand Canyon at a public event. I'm not distributing copies of the music score (or a video of TomS' performance), but TomS is entitled to payment for the right for me to perform his work.

If the venue for the performance has the respective ASCAP, BMI or SESAC license, TomS gets paid by that organization (payment is a little confusing, because of various levels/types of license), and I don't need to worry about infringing TomS' performing rights. If the venue doesn't have a license, it's my responsibility to have a license.

I get my other half to video the performance and I upload it to YouTube. It's unclear how TomS gets paid for the countless 'public performances' (views of the video); There's just a hint in the ASCAP announcement I linked to in my prior message.
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« Reply #24 on: January 10, 2018, 08:01:09 AM »
Thanks Scott. Sounds like the Church has its bases covered.
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« Reply #25 on: January 12, 2018, 12:36:43 PM »
Some of the open mic' offerings by individuals and breakout groups were extremely well done. Two weeks of this (second half of our weekly practice) have produced an additional 16 or 17 songs as candidates for our upcoming concert playlist. FWIW I didn't add a third number to my open mi'c offering...

A week late, but I gratuitously played/sang Auld Lang Syne for folks who might want to sing it with family and friends at midnight on new years eve. Not something the band would play/sing at a concert.

My other offering was an arrangement of Tom Jones' Delilah. I tend to mimic the big band he used to have as a backing; I add strums to the end of sung lines, and also add some antiphonal sounds that mimic some of the brass instruments. The uke Band thought the additions were hysterical. I doubt this number will make the cut for the concert, although my arrangement of one of his other songs was in a prior playlist.

If we had another open mic' session, I would have performed some Irish songs from my personal portfolio, in time for St. Paddy's Day.

Meanwhile, our portfolio (Song Book) of arranged songs continues to grow.
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« Reply #26 on: January 18, 2018, 01:09:51 PM »
Delilah made the first cut by the Music Committee, and is in the short-list of 28 songs. We started banging on the 'new' (to the Band) songs on Tuesday; Some need a lot of work, and we'll continue at next week's practice. Then the list will be pared to the final 22 songs that will be in the concert program, and we'll have 6 further rehearsals to hone our playing and singing, harmonies and solos.

We have a patient and talented Music Director and, seeing him change/re-arrange numbers in mid practice, it never fails to amaze me.

Rather than wait until the last minute (as I usually do), I've begun working on some future open mic' numbers for future inclusion in our Song Book. I thought I'd look at numbers by Mr Ballad/Love Song, Englebert Humperdinck. I've developed an interesting and entertaining intro on the singer.[
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