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Bill N

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An Oil Change at Walmart -- or not
« on: January 11, 2018, 04:42:24 PM »
I found out that my local Walmart is the only one of the 8 located in this area that has a wide and high door combined with a pit that accomodate a motorhome for oil changes.  So I decided to use it yesterday as all I have is a simple 8.1 Chevy gas engine in the Winnie.  How can you go wrong?  I drove up to their bay door (as I had been told to do when asking on a previous trip) and I could see the guy who signs up the oil change jobs had very big eyes.  He asked what I wanted and I told him an oil change so he immediately asked the guy inside - "Do we do these?"  "Yep."  Then he looks up at his door and I tell him it is high enough.  Next he asks for the VIN - and copies it right off the decal on the door - Nope - does not compute with Walmarts system. Skips that and goes to what brand is this vehicle - Winnebago - Nope does not compute in Walmarts system.  Then he noticies the Workhorse decal on the side of the coach and I tell him to look that up - Yep he has Workhorse - what size engine?  8.1 liter Chevy - Nope, not in Walmart's system.  Skip that.  What size filter - I tell him a PF454 from the manual - blank stare - does not compute but the guy inside says he will look it up.  In the meantime the very young lady who is in charge of the shop decides she must drive the coach inside.  I had volunteered but when she insisted I figured Walmart had better insurance than I did.
So she pulls it in gently as the whole shop stops to watch and see what she crashes it into.  Makes it all the way in and then a guy opens the exit door and she drives it right out.  WOW I think, that is one fast oil change!  Then the oil changer walks over and tells me they they found the right filter number but they are out of them at the moment.  I can go find a filter and come back and they will install it with the oil change.  Uh, no thanks.  I was just getting it changed because I had it out on it's monthly run and had to have a state safety inspection in order to renew the plates (done at a different shop).  Soooooooo I ALMOST had a Walmart oil change.  And believe it or not I am going to go back one day and give it another try (but this time I will be sure they have a filter).

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Lou Schneider

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Re: An Oil Change at Walmart -- or not
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2018, 04:53:07 PM »
Wow.  I had Walmart change my oil several times in my 1994 Damon motorhome (Ford F53 gas chassis, 35') and now in my 1993 Hall Chaparral motorhome (Chevy P30) and never had those kinds of issues.  It's always been drive up, take down the info (after the first time they were in the employee was able to retrieve it from their database), I drove in over the pit and they did the work.

However, I was out of luck when I tried to get them to change the oil in my 1986 Bronco II.  Their history only goes back to somewhere in the 1990s and they won't work on vehicles older than that.  The filters, etc. were available inside the store but the oil change shop wouldn't install them or change the oil unless they could look up the specifications themselves.
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Re: An Oil Change at Walmart -- or not
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2018, 05:23:14 PM »
Time has caught up with some of us.  When asked "what engine?" I replied chevy 350.  Blank looks from all.  I had to say chevy 5.7 liter. The young guys got that.  Maybe come up with a newer ford engine so they can get you a motorcraft F1 or fram PH8 or equivalent.
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Re: An Oil Change at Walmart -- or not
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2018, 09:29:41 PM »
I'd still trust them before Camping World.
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Re: An Oil Change at Walmart -- or not
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2018, 10:24:03 AM »
I'd still trust them before Camping World.
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That's not saying much.  I wouldn't trust Camping World to install a roll of toilet paper.
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Re: An Oil Change at Walmart -- or not
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2018, 10:28:39 AM »
That's not saying much.  I wouldn't trust Camping World to install a roll of toilet paper.

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Re: An Oil Change at Walmart -- or not
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2018, 10:50:17 AM »
I've seen that sort of problem at Walmarts before. On any given day and store you may get a skilled guy or a novice, both in the shop and at the service counter.   They tend to have a high employee turnover and lesser skills, probably because the skilled people often move on to a better paying shop or at least one with M-F 8-5 hours. Sometimes you get a retired pro just making some extra retirement bucks, and sometimes you get the kid with minimal training and experience and learning on the job. They also stock tires, batteries and filters only for common vehicles, based on Walmart HQ's computer analysis of sales in the auto parts department.

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Re: An Oil Change at Walmart -- or not
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2018, 11:12:03 AM »
I asked about an oil change for my class A at a Walmart once.  When the "manager" told me that they changed the oil in a "Meanie Weanie" a few months back, I went to the Ford dealer instead.
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Bill N

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Re: An Oil Change at Walmart -- or not
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2018, 11:38:39 AM »
I just made the post as a sort of humorous moment.  I do intend to go back when the weather warms up but the brains of the operation was the guy in the pit actually doing the change.  The young female shop manager was very tentative about the deal but she learned fast as did the guy who signed it in.  Next trip should be smoother - but I will check on the filter first.

Do it yourself  = Well yes, if you can but with a bit of age, COPD, arthritis in the back and on oxygen, all things are not as easy as they used to be.

Camping World did a super good job of installing a hitch on our Sonic toad - took off the front of the car, installed it and replaced the front and install all wiring and it looked like a factory job.  All CWs are not bad.

Bill
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Re: An Oil Change at Walmart -- or not
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2018, 01:00:38 PM »
Not an oil change but..... 

I needed an alignment on my Trend after hitting what the state posted as "bump" on the highway.  The sign should have said "ditch"!   I asked at my local RV dealer who couldn't so they sent me to a semi truck trailer repair shop.  I made the appointment, and as I pulled up to the the bay doors, the guys started laughing.  I guess they thought I had an RV, aka a Brad Paisley 50 foot tour bus type of RV not an itty bitty one.  Said they don't work on things that "little."  They did find a garage who could both get it into the bay and do an alignment.  I can still see those guys laughing.
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Re: An Oil Change at Walmart -- or not
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2018, 06:38:55 PM »
I took my 2007 Diesel truck into the Wal Mart  in College Station, TX once about 10 years ago was told they didn't do heavy vehicles like mine.  I found out I could take the oil and filter into our Chevy dealer and they would do it for $25.  As I get older, it gets much easier to let someone else do the work.

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Re: An Oil Change at Walmart -- or not
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2018, 03:58:54 PM »
I have a company car so I use a national name shop to change the oil and add fluids.  The windshield wiper fluid wouldn't work when it dropped below freezing.  Once it warmed up I tired and it worked normally.  No smell to it.  Added my own stuff and pumped a bunch through.  Could smell the new stuff plain as day inside the car.

Could they be so greedy as to water it down?  People's safety could be at risk!
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Re: An Oil Change at Walmart -- or not
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2018, 04:22:35 PM »
I have a company car so I use a national name shop to change the oil and add fluids.  The windshield wiper fluid wouldn't work when it dropped below freezing.  Once it warmed up I tired and it worked normally.  No smell to it.  Added my own stuff and pumped a bunch through.  Could smell the new stuff plain as day inside the car.

Could they be so greedy as to water it down?  People's safety could be at risk!

Years ago when I was a penny pincher, I would water mine down from spring thru fall. 50/50. Once winter came around, I would use it straight.
Now I've heard that if you buy a gallon of washer fluid in the south like FL, it won't be as strong as the antifreeze up north. Not sure on that one though.
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Re: An Oil Change at Walmart -- or not
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2018, 04:28:09 PM »
Not all winwindshield washer fluid is antifreeze. Some of it is just soapy water.
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Re: An Oil Change at Walmart -- or not
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2018, 08:17:47 PM »
Here in TX, the windshield washer fluid that's sold in stores in the summer has no antifreeze and is only safe from down to 32 degrees F.  We make enough trip up north in the winter that I don't want to use any that'll freeze above -20, so I buy all mine when we're in the north country.
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Re: An Oil Change at Walmart -- or not
« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2018, 04:50:21 PM »
I know it can start some pretty big arguments, but buy your own filter. Fram is the worst possible choice. If you have ever cut them open and compared brands, you would know how cheaply made they are inside. I gave up on them years ago after changing about three or four in a row, trying to get one that the anti-drain back valve (Ford) worked in. Oil would drain out at shutdown and next start was 15 seconds without oil pressure.

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Re: An Oil Change at Walmart -- or not
« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2018, 04:57:23 PM »
Fram is the worst possible choice.
Charles

I agree 10000%.  I'd run without a filter before I'd run a Fram.  They come apart, plug up stuff, and you never know until your engine craps out.  Then who disects it for cardboard trash plugging holes.

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Re: An Oil Change at Walmart -- or not
« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2018, 08:30:27 PM »
I know it can start some pretty big arguments, but buy your own filter. Fram is the worst possible choice. If you have ever cut them open and compared brands, you would know how cheaply made they are inside. I gave up on them years ago after changing about three or four in a row, trying to get one that the anti-drain back valve (Ford) worked in. Oil would drain out at shutdown and next start was 15 seconds without oil pressure.

Charles

They must sell literally millions of filters.  While they may not be formula one quality, I doubt they do any actual damage.  Where are all these engines dying anyways?  I see cars and trucks and Rv's falling apart with engines just fine.  Maybe a PCV valve or something but almost never the oil covered parts.
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Re: An Oil Change at Walmart -- or not
« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2018, 08:47:39 AM »
Bill - Considering Walmart is about the cheapest place to get an oil change in a car, I have to ask the question: what were they going to charge you for your 8.1 Workhorse? I'm changing my own oil at the moment because I'm tired of paying $130 to have an RV mechanic do it.
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Bill N

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Re: An Oil Change at Walmart -- or not
« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2018, 11:19:57 AM »
Bill - Considering Walmart is about the cheapest place to get an oil change in a car, I have to ask the question: what were they going to charge you for your 8.1 Workhorse? I'm changing my own oil at the moment because I'm tired of paying $130 to have an RV mechanic do it.
I didn't check the last time John but a few months earlier I had priced it and I believe it was $33 plus tax.  May have been $36 but most local car joints are charging $39.  They said it would be the same as a car plus any extra oil it needed.

Bill
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Re: An Oil Change at Walmart -- or not
« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2018, 04:09:57 PM »
So why are RV mechanics charging $100 more than this?
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Re: An Oil Change at Walmart -- or not
« Reply #21 on: January 16, 2018, 04:42:10 PM »
The last Wal-mart I was in charged $50 to change the oil and lube a gas motorhome.  Why are they charging less than the independent shops?  For the same reasons they sell soda and groceries for less than 7-11 ... volume and the efficiencies that come from a large operation vs. a boutique shop.

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Re: An Oil Change at Walmart -- or not
« Reply #22 on: January 16, 2018, 04:45:37 PM »
That may be the answer for some shops, but what about your CW's and high volume mechanics that you have to book a week or two out just for an oil change? These guys have the volume, so that isn't the answer. They just want the money. If I can get a lube and oil change for $50, I'm going.
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Re: An Oil Change at Walmart -- or not
« Reply #23 on: January 16, 2018, 06:34:19 PM »
That may be the answer for some shops, but what about your CW's and high volume mechanics that you have to book a week or two out just for an oil change? These guys have the volume, so that isn't the answer. They just want the money. If I can get a lube and oil change for $50, I'm going.
It does make one wonder how unscrewing a drain plug, removing a filter and then putting on a new filter and refilling the oil can be any more expensive than doing the same to a car.  But I have an RV mech who charges $115/hr for anything he does and if it takes a second guy to help for just a few minutes, you get charged an extra hour for that.  They disputed that but I showed it to him on two different bills and he deducted an hour on my next visit.  Problem is CW is $129/hr and you can't even talk to those jokers.  What we need is a Jiffy Lube for RVs..............lol

Bill
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Re: An Oil Change at Walmart -- or not
« Reply #24 on: January 16, 2018, 10:41:32 PM »
Bill - You're absolutely right. My previous mechanic charges $140/hr and my present one charges $130.00. I know that the 8.1L takes more oil than your standard auto engine, but if a high school wrench monkey can change your oil at a Jiffy Lube in 15 minutes and check all your fluid levels plus lube in the same time, why does an RV mechanic charge an hour's labor rate to change the oil when it takes maybe 20 minutes plus the cost of the oil and filter?

I had planned on putting synthetic oil in my 8/1L the next time I changed the oil myself, but if Walmart will change it and lube for $50, I'll stick with the standard oil for a while longer.
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Re: An Oil Change at Walmart -- or not
« Reply #25 on: January 17, 2018, 01:50:37 PM »
At Walmart you can bring your own oil and filter.

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Re: An Oil Change at Walmart -- or not
« Reply #26 on: January 17, 2018, 02:07:20 PM »
Don't know if you have them but the neighborhood Mr. Lube does my class C.  Big door, pit and all.  Don't remember the price.  Don't care.  They do a good job.
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Re: An Oil Change at Walmart -- or not
« Reply #27 on: January 17, 2018, 04:01:04 PM »
Guess if I can drive it I can change the oil and lube it(greasing btw has become a lost art with all the new stuff on the road made to be thrown away because of no zerks)

Climbing under it also gives me the opportunity to see other issues if there are any.

Dang few folks I trust with a wrench anymore... But that's another story.. Craftsman tools are one way, only take things apart....
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Re: An Oil Change at Walmart -- or not
« Reply #28 on: January 17, 2018, 04:47:55 PM »
Guess if I can drive it I can change the oil and lube it(greasing btw has become a lost art with all the new stuff on the road made to be thrown away because of no zerks)

Climbing under it also gives me the opportunity to see other issues if there are any.

Dang few folks I trust with a wrench anymore... But that's another story.. Craftsman tools are one way, only take things apart....
Some of us are getting to the age we don't want to crawl around under a coach anymore. I'm sure not thrilled about it, even on the car or pickup. Getting down isn't the problem, but getting back up sure is. Then ya have to go thru the trouble of getting rid of the old oil and filter.

I lost an engine in a 81 Bonneville many moons ago because of a fram filter. Haven't bought one since. Fram was having a LOT of problems in the mid to late 80s. I use AC delco or Wix now. 
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Re: An Oil Change at Walmart -- or not
« Reply #29 on: January 17, 2018, 06:46:22 PM »
Bill N,
         Donít know you at all, but you strike me as a really good guy. It seems to me that you were patient with the Walmart employees trying to do your oil change, even when it didnít work out.
          One of my first jobs was at a gas station (full service service station). We didnít just pump gas for customers, we checked fluids, tire pressures, washed windows, etc.) We had some great regular customers and we always bent over backwards to make sure they got all the service they needed, and more.
           Then there was the other 50% of people. We could just sense that they held us gas pumpers in disdain.... they were rude, acted like we were stupid, and obviously considered themselves superior in life. Even as young people we could feel that. The service those kind of people received was a direct reflection of how they made us feel about them. As a young man it really soured me on the general public.
            Most everybody in life wants to have a great job with great benefits and feel good about themselves. It doesnít always work out that way. I try to think of that when waitresses or anyone else is providing a service to me, I know they would most likely prefer to be doing something else. I remember how that felt.
            A lot of times the same ones that always complain of crappy service on vehicles or anything else are the same ones that find a hair in their gravy. Wonder why? I try to be respectful of everybody, except for the rare few that just donít deserve it. Kinda off topic maybe, but I wouldnít be afraid to use Walmart at all. Beats laying in the snow under my truck. 😄
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