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Re: Washing Your RV
« Reply #30 on: June 08, 2005, 10:43:34 PM »
Depends on what you mean by "wax" Smoky. Clearly, full body paint needs something to protect it from the damaging effects of the sun, but nothing like an unpainted fiberglass/gel coat finish. I don't use heavy paste wax on the coach, and mainly rely on the small amount of wax in ZipDee car wash. Once or twice a year I might apply a liquid wax such as Turtle Wax. Many folks use ProtectAll once or twice a year.

I'll let the DriWash contingent explain how their coaches receive protection because I've never used it.
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« Reply #31 on: June 08, 2005, 10:55:45 PM »
Maybe it was the DriWash contingent?  Does that have wax in it?

BTW I see a message that says, "there are people in the chat room" but when I go there I seem to be the only one in the chat room.
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« Reply #32 on: June 08, 2005, 11:47:15 PM »
Maybe it was the DriWash contingent? Does that have wax in it?

As I said repeatedly, I've never used it, so I wouldn't know.

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I see a message that says, "there are people in the chat room"

Where do you see that message? If it's in "Who's online", that information can be up to 15 minutes old. New folks see the Chat button and click on it thinking someone is waiting there 24/7 for them to show up. When they don't see anyone they leave the room &/or the forum, but that data continues to show for another 15 mins.
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« Reply #33 on: June 08, 2005, 11:51:40 PM »
OK Tom, I think you hit it.  Likely it was 15 mins old.    Heck, I can't even find a late campfire lol!
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« Reply #34 on: June 09, 2005, 07:45:02 AM »
Maybe it was the DriWash contingent?  Does that have wax in it?

We have never used anything but DriWash n Guard on our American Eagle since we got it in August 1998.  When you see it  I think your questions regarding care of the exterior surface will be answered.
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« Reply #35 on: June 09, 2005, 08:19:31 AM »
Ron:

I still have the sample you sent me.  Now might be the time to test it out.

Does it have any wax in it?  Just curious about how it goes about its business protecting the coach.
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« Reply #36 on: June 09, 2005, 08:38:15 AM »
It has what they call polymers that provide protection.  Try cleaning the side of hood on the toad that is in front of you with it and just lean the side in front of the Adrmial with soap and water.  See the difference.  She will most likely point it out to you. ;D
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« Reply #37 on: June 09, 2005, 11:10:09 AM »
It has what they call polymers that provide protection.

Ron, that's the bit I didn't know (or couldn't remember). Do the polymers stay on the surface after applixation to act as a protectant?
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« Reply #38 on: June 09, 2005, 07:46:34 PM »
Ron, that's the bit I didn't know (or couldn't remember). Do the polymers stay on the surface after applixation to act as a protectant?

That is my understanding Tom.  Using our coach as an example it is obvious that it works.
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« Reply #39 on: June 09, 2005, 07:57:47 PM »
Thanks Ron. Something obviously works. Maybe one of chemistry majors will jump in and explain it.
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« Reply #40 on: June 10, 2005, 03:31:48 PM »
I'm really surprised at that reaction Pat, since I was merely singing your tune. I was saying that I don't need to use heavy paste wax on the full body paint of our coach. I wasn't saying it doesn't need any protection. In fact, I use a liquid wax, which is what you've been telling us for years we should use. Have you changed your mind about the easy-on virtues of liquid waxes  ???

Whoops!  I misread something in there.  It sounded like you said paint doesn't need wax at all. 

Of course, liquid spray wax is great!

But I wouldn't be biased or anything.<G>
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« Reply #41 on: June 10, 2005, 03:57:21 PM »
LOL Pat, now it sounds like we're on the same wavelength.

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I can't imagine you being biased  :)
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« Reply #42 on: June 11, 2005, 11:17:05 AM »
Ron:

Ok if I apply liquid wax after I wash the Admiral's side?  Seems like that would give a more equal comparison.

Been washing and liquid waxing the coach.  I am finding this to be a huge job.  Never waxed anything this big before.  ugh
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« Reply #43 on: June 11, 2005, 02:55:44 PM »
Ron:

Ok if I apply liquid wax after I wash the Admiral's side?  Seems like that would give a more equal comparison.

You bet that is what I would do for comparison.  I would not wash or wax the side you use driwash on so you can see how easy it really is to use as well as how long it lasts.

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Been washing and liquid waxing the coach.  I am finding this to be a huge job.  Never waxed anything this big before.  ugh

Your working harder that I would.  I have never washed the Eagle with anything but Driwash.  Also have never used any wax on it either. Just Driwash.  Why not just apply Driwash on a section for comparison.

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« Reply #44 on: October 11, 2005, 01:20:38 PM »
I will leave the coach partially Protect All covered to see if there is a benefit to the finish over time.

Jeff, any update? I'm just curious as I haven't run any side by side tests.
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« Reply #45 on: October 11, 2005, 05:35:09 PM »
At this point I cannot tell the differnce on the side that I used Protect-All after buffing and on the side that received the color restorer/wax only.

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« Reply #46 on: October 11, 2005, 05:55:16 PM »
OK thanks for the report Jeff.
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« Reply #47 on: October 12, 2005, 04:13:37 AM »
I have done my comparison on Wash and Guard versus traditional washing and waxing, and I cannot tell any difference at all between:

A:  Using Wash and Guard only
B:  Washing with soapy water, rinsing, then applying carnuba wax (Turtle).

However, the Wash and Guard is a lot less work.  It is also a LOT more expensive.  I will end up likely using both methods, depending on the situation.
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« Reply #48 on: October 12, 2005, 04:38:49 AM »
Smoky

Have you tried liquid Turtle Wax - a lot easier to apply than carnuba paste wax. I came to the conclusion that, unlike gel coat, carnuba paste wax is not required on a painted surface and we use liquid Turtle Wax a couple of times a year. For intermediate washes we use a little ZipWax car wash in a bucket of water after first hosing off the loose dirt and mud. However, it obviously requires water, whereas DriWash and similar products do not.

BTW we could use ProtectAll instead of the liquid Turtle Wax, but we've found it harder to find over the last few years. Folks who use ProtectAll usually have positive things to say about it and, like TW, is easy to apply.
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« Reply #49 on: October 12, 2005, 04:45:30 AM »
Tom:

Actually I should have said liquid Turtle wax instead of carnuba.  Carnuba is a carry over from my boating days and I do indeed now use the liquid Turtle wax. 

I get excellent results with it.

I think the main case for DWG is the one step process.  Certainly easier if you are willing to pay the high cost.  I am not going to use DWG all the time, but when I am on the move, it is convenient not to have to fuss with water.  I hope DWG and liquid Turtle wax are compatible with each other.

I did not see any problem applying DWG on top of a previous wax job.  This week I will learn if the reverse is OK.   ???
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« Reply #50 on: October 12, 2005, 05:05:33 AM »
Carnuba is a carry over from my boating days

I know, which is why I was surprised when I thought you were using it on the coach. We previously had long discussions on this subject and, like you, I was steeped in carnuba from my many happy hours of protecting gel coat on boats.

I can't comment on the application of DWG over other protectants or vice versa. I haven't used any of the quart of DWG I bought 18 moonths ago. Every time I pull out the bottle I think of the price and put the bottle back in the storage bin.

I do plan on trying ProtectAll on the coach if I can find a local source.
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« Reply #51 on: October 12, 2005, 09:44:09 AM »

I do plan on trying ProtectAll on the coach if I can find a local source.

Try your local WalMart.
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« Reply #52 on: October 12, 2005, 09:55:41 AM »
Try your local WalMart.

I have, on several occasions Joel. I even wrote to Pat Huber some time ago asking why the store didn't carry it. It was one reason I went with a different product.
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« Reply #53 on: October 12, 2005, 12:22:50 PM »
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BTW we could use ProtectAll instead of the liquid Turtle Wax, but we've found it harder to find over the last few years. Folks who use ProtectAll usually have positive things to say about it and, like TW, is easy to apply.

Tom:

Our SWM carries it with the RV stuff.

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Ok if I apply liquid wax after I wash the Admiral's side?  Seems like that would give a more equal comparison.

Been washing and liquid waxing the coach.  I am finding this to be a huge job.  Never waxed anything this big before.  ugh

Smoky:

Cheap recreation-good exercise. ;D ;D

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« Reply #54 on: October 12, 2005, 12:25:39 PM »
Our SWM carries it with the RV stuff.

Thanks Jeff. No SWM around here and the regular WM doesn't have it. I'll look next time we're near a WM/SWM in another place.
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« Reply #55 on: October 12, 2005, 01:53:29 PM »
Smoky

>>However, the Wash and Guard is a lot less work.  It is also a LOT more expensive<<

Use ProtectAll...It applies the same, has carnuba wax & is 1/4 the price of Dri Wash.


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« Reply #56 on: October 12, 2005, 03:53:25 PM »
Terry:

I have never seen it, but I will keep an eye out for it.
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« Reply #57 on: October 13, 2005, 09:32:07 AM »
I have, on several occasions Joel. I even wrote to Pat Huber some time ago asking why the store didn't carry it. It was one reason I went with a different product.

We must have a better class of WMs here in Georgia!
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« Reply #58 on: October 13, 2005, 10:13:27 AM »
a better class of WMs

That's an oxymoron  ;D .  ProtectAll's web site doesn't list our nearest WM as a seller of their product.
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« Reply #59 on: October 13, 2005, 11:21:08 AM »
I have done my comparison on Wash and Guard versus traditional washing and waxing, and I cannot tell any difference at all between:

A:  Using Wash and Guard only
B:  Washing with soapy water, rinsing, then applying carnuba wax (Turtle).

However, the Wash and Guard is a lot less work.  It is also a LOT more expensive.  I will end up likely using both methods, depending on the situation.

Don't waste your time doing both Smoky.  Dri-Wash will remove the wax, so stay with one or the other.

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