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LarsMac

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Well, I'm confused. - Shore power/chassis power, etc.
« on: January 28, 2018, 03:20:45 PM »
We have been parked for a couple of months, now and plugged into shore power at the in-laws.
When I went out to start the engine the other day, it failed to turn over. Apparently the battery had drained.
I jumped the battery to get it started and when running, I have good power from the alternator, and the battery charges. I had thought that the chassis battery would be receiving a charge from the house system while we were parked. Apparently, not.

Earlier, we had the Dancer on shore power for nearly 3 months, and never had the problem of the chassis battery draining down.
This time, in a matter of weeks, we lost enough juice that it failed to turn the engine.
Was I just lucky, last time because it was during warm weather?



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Re: Well, I'm confused. - Shore power/chassis power, etc.
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2018, 04:09:19 PM »
Sounds to me like you chassis battery is dead. How old is it?
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Re: Well, I'm confused. - Shore power/chassis power, etc.
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2018, 04:43:37 PM »
Sounds to me like you chassis battery is dead. How old is it?

Well, it takes a charge, and passes load tests. But it had a 5/14 stamp on it, so 3 1/2 years old with a questionable history.
I will probably go ahead and replace it shortly.

I did think that it should be getting a charge off the house circuit, while on shore power. I guess another lesson learned.
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Re: Well, I'm confused. - Shore power/chassis power, etc.
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2018, 05:54:03 PM »
My chassis batteries do not charge off of shore power.
 I just installed a trickle start to keep chassis batteries up. I checked this morning it was on float both banks at 13.2 volts
 3 1/2 yrs old should not need replacing
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Re: Well, I'm confused. - Shore power/chassis power, etc.
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2018, 11:18:06 PM »
https://www.amazon.com/WirthCo-20108-Battery-Doctor-Batteries/dp/B002OWFLC4 


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Re: Well, I'm confused. - Shore power/chassis power, etc.
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2018, 05:05:31 AM »
My chassis (engine) battery does not charge from shore power. Only the house batteries. I use a battery minder for the chassis battery. I also have a solar panel that provides about 1.3 amps to the battery, but I disconnected it in favor of the battery tender.

Most likely your chassis battery does not charge from shore power either. The battery minder is awesome in my opinion.
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Re: Well, I'm confused. - Shore power/chassis power, etc.
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2018, 08:56:49 AM »
Install a Trik-L-Start  and forget about disconnect switches and separate chargers that you have to remember.
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Re: Well, I'm confused. - Shore power/chassis power, etc.
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2018, 10:09:08 AM »
Your particular coach does NOT charge the chassis battery from shore power. Some do; some do not.

Chas A advice about adding a Trik-L-Charge is excellent.  Or add it's big brother, the Amp-L-Start.  Some other devices that would achieve the same thing is a Xantrex Echo Charge or Magnum Smart Battery Combiner, but the basic models do fine.
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Re: Well, I'm confused. - Shore power/chassis power, etc.
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2018, 12:58:30 PM »
Thanks for the replies.

I will look into a battery booster or something of that nature.

As for replacing the battery, I agree, normally a 3.5 year old battery should be fine for a couple more years. But, it is not a brand I am familiar with, and I have no information on the history of this battery except for the last year and a half. It may have been drained and left in the cold for those two years before I acquired the RV.

It may be fine, and I will pull it and take down to get a full test on it, to see how it looks.
I may go ahead and replace it just to have a known starting quantity/quality and a fresh start on a warranty. Why take a chance with the unknown.


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Re: Well, I'm confused. - Shore power/chassis power, etc.
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2018, 10:46:49 AM »
May I suggest my Library article on battery choices? It's been published in a couple RV magazines, but it's free from the RVForum Library.  See http://www.rvforum.net/miscfiles/Choosing_right_battery.pdf
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Re: Well, I'm confused. - Shore power/chassis power, etc.
« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2018, 01:31:16 AM »
While it is always good to have a battery disconnect switch on both engine and house batteries, I would also do as the gentleman who suggested the Trik L Start. There is also another device called the BIRD. Both of these devices allow your house batteries to charge from the generator, shore power, or engine alternator.  You can also install a switch which allows you to connect the engine and house batteries when either one is too low to crank the generator or engine.