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I guess I'm just ranting
« on: February 03, 2018, 06:30:55 AM »
I may sound selfish but

Iím trying to make reservations for our 3 month summer trip. I want to visit the big 5 parks in Utah and Yellowstone with many points in between. Iím already too late making reservations in some of the public parks.

The RV industry just closed out another banner year for sales. In excess of half a million units sold. So where do you think all these folks want to use their new RVís. Yup you guessed it, Utah and Yellowstone.

The stock market took a 600 pt dump earlier this week. Is it telling us something? Historically the market can be in the bull mode for about 7 years and then it contracts. Weíre overdue. Itís coming. Some will try and time the market, the smart ones get out while the getinís  good.

Whatís the first thing folks dump when the economy contracts? Yup boats and RVís. Iíve worked hard all my life. Withheld buying expensive toys till I got close to retirement. Now retired I want to enjoy this wonderful hobby, not compete with others.

The park service probably didnít properly estimate the popularity of their holdings. With record number of baby boomers retiring daily and working folks with more leisure time itís only inevitable that public parks are going to be stressed. Public money goes elsewhere.

So about that market contraction Ö.. I guess I am selfish!
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« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2018, 06:38:33 AM »
You really have to know your plans many months in advance for popular destinations. It's not like the olden days at all, folks could cruise from locale to locale without worry that there is not a space available when they arrive.

I plan my trips a minimum of the first day of a booking window opening. Many federal parks have a 6 month booking window, some longer some shorter. I also enjoy the planning phase as much as the going phase almost.

My plans for the year have already been made, all reservations in place, and three were reserved a year in advance.

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Re: I guess I'm just ranting
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2018, 07:19:03 AM »
We have traveled a lot, all states but Hawaii, all provinces except Newfoundland, and we are on the other side of the coin. We do not reserve early, sometimes we will call on the way to see if there is an opening. We did not camp IN Yellowstone, but camped NEAR. Always worked for us, and the idea of planning a year in advance is not good for us, obviously good for others. One time we left a campground in the morning, and within the hour saw a new place, stayed a couple days.

We wander, once in Texas it was too darn hot, wound up in Alaska. That is our way of enjoying travel! We started doing this maybe 50 years ago, and sometimes I look back at the campers we have owned (too many?) and think of the money we could have accumulated.  Then I think of the memories we have accumulated and think we did OK!
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« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2018, 07:37:14 AM »
Reservations are not needed even at the most popular parks in the middle of summer. If a campground does not take reservations all you have to do is be in the campground at around 8 am when people are leaving and wait till someone vacates a site you want. The economy has nothing to do with it. Every day people check out. It is first come first serve. Be there early and there are always spaces available. I did it for ten years full timing.
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« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2018, 08:01:28 AM »
 In todays world Tom,, that space that just vacated has already been reserved and you will be told to vacate.>>>
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« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2018, 08:07:14 AM »
In todays world Tom,, that space that just vacated has already been reserved and you will be told to vacate.>>>
I am talking about campgrounds that do not take reservations.
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Re: I guess I'm just ranting
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2018, 08:16:08 AM »
Reservations are not needed even at the most popular parks in the middle of summer. If a campground does not take reservations all you have to do is be in the campground at around 8 am when people are leaving and wait till someone vacates a site you want. The economy has nothing to do with it. Every day people check out. It is first come first serve. Be there early and there are always spaces available. I did it for ten years full timing.

Great idea, Early bird gets the worm.  But wait, did you drive during the night  :-\, my wife would not be cool with that.

If what I've been seeing while watching this forum is true, we need to continually complain.  The Country is at it's best in many years.  That stock market tick yesterday, always happens with growth.   The Economy looks very promising, and if that is true, and more baby boomers do buy RVs, well, let's complain to the only people who can change that.  If you want to be that troll that says, ya, they don't listen, please, the rest of us do believe in our great country.

National Park Service.
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Tell them we need more camping options in our Beautiful and Wonderful parks



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Re: I guess I'm just ranting
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2018, 09:00:05 AM »
Keep in mind the National Park Service is also charged with preservation of the park lands and resources. That mission is seldom compatible with creating more camping spaces. Maybe private campground interests adjacent to the parks should be encouraged to take advantage of the market expansion opportunities as well.
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« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2018, 09:00:58 AM »
Reservations are not needed even at the most popular parks in the middle of summer. If a campground does not take reservations all you have to do is be in the campground at around 8 am when people are leaving and wait till someone vacates a site you want. The economy has nothing to do with it. Every day people check out. It is first come first serve. Be there early and there are always spaces available. I did it for ten years full timing.

When was the last time you actually traveled?

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« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2018, 09:11:56 AM »
Great idea, Early bird gets the worm.  But wait, did you drive during the night  :-\, my wife would not be cool with that.
I usually get up around 5am and leave directly so I arrive at the next campground by 8am. It is called planning.
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« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2018, 09:19:30 AM »
When was the last time you actually traveled?

Agreed we did that in the late 70's times have changed Washington State allows you to book 9 months to the day in advance and most of the popular places are booked on that 9 month day. We would use 6-7 computors to book 3 spots if we were going as a group.

It gets harder and harder every year here in Alberta the May long week in the Provincal Parks will sell out 10,000 spots within seconds of opening the booking window. So to avoid it we travel a day in advance and an extra day after and go a little further but its all good you have to. Be flexible
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Re: I guess I'm just ranting
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2018, 10:03:29 AM »
When was the last time you actually traveled?
The RVing world has definitely changed in the last 5-7 years. Many Utahns now complain the state tourism office advertising for the Mighty Five and The Grand Circle was a bit too successful. Add to the multi millions of new RVs bought in the last few years to the increasing number of retirees, and the entire thing is fraught with overcrowding. The poor NPS is slowly being suffocated for lack of funds, and the campgrounds inside the parks are increasingly being transferred to private concessionaires. We generally still travel without reservations except to popular tourist locations. We sometimes find sites in the parks without reservations, but it is iffy even with a relatively small trailer like we have. Once we buy a motorhome, I am not even going to try. Too few sites for the bigger rigs, and too many people trying to get them.

For the OP, I recommend continuing to check the reservation web sites. People do cancel all the time, and you just have to be there to grab the reservation. Get a backup site at a private park, or set your rig up for boondocking as an alternative. Donít get too discouraged. The beautiful places are still beautiful even if they are crowded.
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« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2018, 11:33:56 AM »
As a middle aged couple  :o just starting our RV life I find this a bit disturbing. That said...basically all our travel will be in the winter months so I would expect a good portion of the competition will be working during the week.
I don't think I care either way. We have some solar and will add if needed to ensure we always have a place to set camp.
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« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2018, 11:52:33 AM »
I would not worry about it Jeff, finding open sites to camp in is not as big a problem as some people make it out to be. There are millions of campgrounds and RV parks in this country and most of them have many open sites. However if you feel you must camp inside Yellowstone in July with full hookups it will be more difficult.
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Re: I guess I'm just ranting
« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2018, 11:56:58 AM »
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Iím trying to make reservations for our 3 month summer trip. I want to visit the big 5 parks in Utah and Yellowstone with many points in between. Iím already too late making reservations in some of the public parks.

So reserve at a non-public park. It will cost you a bit more, but that's the price of being a late-comer. Might have some nicer features, though.

Yellowstone has convenient campgrounds outside the West and North entrances and somewhat less convenient locations at the East and South sides. You are going to do a lot of driving to see all of Yellowstone anyway, so being in or outside the park makes little difference [in my opinion].  Arches NP also has plenty of private campgrounds within easy driving distance (all of Moab).

Yosemite and Bryce are a bit tougher - not a lot of facilities nearby.

The NPS doesn't even have enough funding to maintain the parks, let alone expand the facilities. Write your Congressman!
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Re: I guess I'm just ranting
« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2018, 12:08:47 PM »
I would not worry about it Jeff, finding open sites to camp in is not as big a problem as some people make it out to be. There are millions of campgrounds and RV parks in this country and most of them have many open sites. However if you feel you must camp inside Yellowstone in July with full hookups it will be more difficult.
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« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2018, 12:41:35 PM »
I find that getting out of "sync" with the rest of the herd to make everything quite enjoyable.  Get up early and moving.  You can do in two hours what will take 6 with the crowds.  The destinations are usually fully staffed with well rested people ready for the day.  Eat lunch early and enjoy a nearly empty dining room.  Go to bed right after quiet hours. 

I learned a while ago - It helps me to only worry about what I can control.  I can't control RV sales, who retires, who is on vacation or what the park services does.  I can only control my attitude, smile and what I do.   :D :D
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« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2018, 12:44:38 PM »
I find that getting out of "sync" with the rest of the herd to make everything quite enjoyable.  Get up early and moving.  You can do in two hours what will take 6 with the crowds.  The destinations are usually fully staffed with well rested people ready for the day.  Eat lunch early and enjoy a nearly empty dining room.  Go to bed right after quiet hours. 

I learned a while ago - It helps me to only worry about what I can control.  I can't control RV sales, who retires, who is on vacation or what the park services does.  I can only control my attitude, smile and what I do.   :D :D
Love it. We should get a beer! 8)
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« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2018, 01:45:11 PM »
I don't know whether you require full hookups or are looking in state and national parks, but National parks and some state parks do not take reservations more than 6 months in advance.  So, today is February 3.  That means there were sites open at Zion this morning at 8:00 am. open for August 3.  In fact, there are some sites available from July 30.  So, if it were me, I would block out my trip for at least August and start making reservations.

The no-hookup campground at Zion accepts reservations only 14 days before your arrival date, so you can get into there.  And there are always cancellations at other campgrounds. 

Have you called Grand Canyon? If your rig is less than 30' long, you can try the Mather Campground.  There are still sites available.

Finally, you might want to adjust your dates if you have flexibility.   Most of us who want to visit the busiest national parks and such try to travel in off-months, such as late August to October.   
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« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2018, 03:36:29 PM »
  We just started RV camping a couple years ago, and I too was surprised at how fast campgrounds fill up. But once we kinda learned the ropes we got over it. Itís not really all that bad, with the exception of certain places that everyone seems to want to go.
   While travelling, we are never sure quite when we will want to stop, so about an hour or so before we decide we are going to pull over she starts using her phone app to find nearby campgrounds and we have never not been able to find a place. We have stayed at some many really nice, small, family owned campgrounds I canít count them any more. The bigger spots on the map, yeah, it can be a little tuff to get in there.
   The other suggestion I have for the younger crowd reading some of these posts is to not wait until everything is perfect in your life to get out there an enjoy it. You may not have all the time or money you need yet, but personally, I would go ahead and get a head start on enjoying your life, even if itís smaller doses for now. Free life tip from the Boonieman.  👍🏻
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Re: I guess I'm just ranting
« Reply #20 on: February 03, 2018, 04:56:41 PM »
Thanks for all the responses. There seems to be different strokes for different folks, as it should be. I'm finding my 40 footer is not welcome at some public parks in the west. I kinda knew that before we got into this RVing having hung around the forums for a year.

Last summer we stayed at state campgrounds in Michigan and NY. The parks for the most part were great, but I did reserve back in April. We would not have gotten into many of the parks had we not reserved. Michigan and NY have a short camping season so the parks fill up early. The BIG downside to reserving so far in advance is the loss of flexibility. We would have stayed longer in many of the parks if we had that flexibility.

Right now I'm waiting until 0001 hours on Feb 7 to reserve a site in Kodachrome Basin - 4 months in advance. We want to stay 5 days, I wonder if I'll have to book every morning for the 5 days.

Thanks for the responses about Yellowstone. We plan on staying outside the park, I think our 40 footer will not be welcome plus it's probably to late to book inside anyway.

For me personally I would not feel comfortable leaving a campground without a reservation the following evening. That's just me and maybe I'll get more comfortable if that happens, but trying to find a parking place for the evening for our 40 ft beast would be stressful for me. Plus staying in a nice campground even if it's in transit to another destination is very enjoyable after 6 hours of driving. That takes research and planning and I've been rewarded with some very nice state parks enroute to our destination. We haven't stayed at Walmarts, truck stops, or Cracker Barrel and I won't plan on that. As a last resort I would however consider them.

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« Reply #21 on: February 03, 2018, 05:38:37 PM »
One thing I have found is there are always options. If the park you want is sold out ask what else is around. Some of them will even give you a list or use Google or any decent Map software

If you belong to MOOSE or ELK lodges many (not all) have RV facilities (Limited at least).

I stayed at 2 moose last summer.. Alas the 3rd one I usually stay at is moving so it's closed.
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« Reply #22 on: February 03, 2018, 06:03:20 PM »
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You can do in two hours what will take 6 with the crowds.
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« Reply #23 on: February 03, 2018, 07:28:36 PM »
  Iím totally with you on not staying at Walmartís or Crackerbarrels unless a just have to situation. Like you, the first year we started camping we would reserve places on the way to our destination. Once, we made great time or didnít estimate right and we ended up getting there at 2:00 in the afternoon. I didnít care. We stopped, it was relaxing and a great campground. I didnít want to risk driving further and not having a spot to stay for the night. Iíve finally relaxed a little on not having to do that, but Iím betting the first time we cant find a campsite and I get aggravated I can see me backsliding to my previous self. 😄
   We toyed with the idea of getting a new fiver this year. As you posted earlier, they are selling a blue million of them right now. All the stories of great deals I read about on here had little basis in reality. We made several different offers, and I mean like 10% less than they were asking and they let us walk away. These were new units at dealerships. Iím kinda glad we didnít because the ones she was looking at were all triple axles in the 40-42 foot range. While they are super nice, they also eliminate a lot of campsites due to their size.
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« Reply #24 on: February 04, 2018, 11:00:17 AM »
We rarely had any problem finding a site for our 40 footer, but we did tend to book ahead, either the night before or early on the travel day, whenever we knew about where we would be the next night.   Cell phones and mobile internet makes it pretty easy to avoid surprises and still keep your options open.  Only in high traffic (tourist) areas did we book well in advance.

If you are encountering site size problems, maybe you need to re-calibrate the sort of parks you are looking at. Perhaps that is something that comes with experience. Perusing a campground guide, printer or website, ought to give you a fair idea of the facilities available. Most campground operators are familiar with the larger size needs of modern RVs and advertise accordingly.
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« Reply #25 on: February 04, 2018, 01:23:59 PM »
Ken Kuch and I have been discussing the issue of making reservations earlier today. While I always suggested traveling without them up until the past couple of years we are finding it is becoming difficult if not impossible to find open sites around popular destinations East or West. More and more State and National facilities are going to a reservation system and are often full for the summer by March.


Last summer coming down the East Coast we easily found sites Sunday through Thursday night but had to settle for 2nd tier campgrounds every weekend. Times are a changing.

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« Reply #26 on: February 04, 2018, 03:51:32 PM »
The parks in Alberta have a neat trick; they charge $12.00 per reservation and allow only 3 days camping per reservation. In essence they have increased the daily camp fee by $4.00 without appearing to do so.

That's my rant  ::)
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« Reply #27 on: February 04, 2018, 04:06:48 PM »
This is part of the reason I bought a sub 30 foot class A.  Last summer we took a month long trip from Louisiana to Yellowstone and watched the big solar eclipse from outside Douglas Wy.  We made reservations for most of the time in Wyoming in late January, managed to get 3 nights inside Yellowstone at 3 of the campgrounds (1 night each), 2 nights in Dubois WY at a private campground, as well as a night in Thermopolis and 3 nights at a remote site with electric hookup for the eclipse outside Douglas within a couple of hundred yards of the path of totality.  Along the drive there and back I did not make a single reservation, I stayed in a mix of commercial campgrounds, forest service and state parks, along with a couple of municipal campgrounds and even at the State Fairgrounds RV park in Kansas on a non-event weekend (125+ full hookup sites and only 5-6 occupied with mostly overnight guest).  On the entire month long trip I had at least electrical hookups all but 4 nights, 2 nights in Yellowstone, and 2 nights at a Forest Service campground in the Mountains outside Laramie WY.  Even with all that we passed campgrounds with empty sites even in the popular tourist areas.

Even in tourist areas there are options, I just checked and the place we stayed in Dubois WY (45 mile east of Grand Teton NP, mostly through a scenic National Forest) Longhorn RV ranch, on the banks of a scenic small river still has multiple RV sites available for the entire month of July.  We spent 2 nights there last summer and did a day trip to Grand Teton on the day in between.  Attached is a photo of our riverfront site there.
 
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« Reply #28 on: February 04, 2018, 04:29:48 PM »
We booked our NY State Park sites for 4th of July week and Labor Day week the moment the 11 month reservation windows opened. We were fortunate in both cases to get our preferred sites, since both parks were fully booked for RV sites within two minutes. One of them even fully booked all of the cabins and tent sites in that time frame. The Labor Day stay was particularly stressful because we wanted two very popular adjacent sites so our daughter could join us with her TT for part of the week. My wife was on one laptop logged into our daughter's account, while I was on my laptop in our account. Our keyboards took a beating, but we prevailed... ;) 
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« Reply #29 on: February 04, 2018, 04:59:51 PM »
It's also easier to find sites if you stop earlier in the day. At 3-4 pm there are likely to be sites available, but by 6pm most have been taken.
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« Reply #30 on: February 04, 2018, 05:32:34 PM »
I no longer book my trip, only the destinations. I don't have a problem paying for a private park, in fact I almost prefer it while traveling. KOA & Good Sam offer a variety of Parks and is usually my first choice when traveling from home to the destination or destination to home.

 

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« Reply #31 on: February 04, 2018, 05:39:22 PM »
It's also easier to find sites if you stop earlier in the day. At 3-4 pm there are likely to be sites available, but by 6pm most have been taken.

This is true, you can sit out at most no-reservation campgrounds and watch the constant procession of RV's roll in looking for a space to stop after about 4 pm.
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Re: I guess I'm just ranting
« Reply #32 on: February 04, 2018, 07:53:40 PM »
I may sound selfish but

Iím trying to make reservations for our 3 month summer trip. I want to visit the big 5 parks in Utah and Yellowstone with many points in between. Iím already too late making reservations in some of the public parks.

The RV industry just closed out another banner year for sales. In excess of half a million units sold. So where do you think all these folks want to use their new RVís. Yup you guessed it, Utah and Yellowstone.

The stock market took a 600 pt dump earlier this week. Is it telling us something? Historically the market can be in the bull mode for about 7 years and then it contracts. Weíre overdue. Itís coming. Some will try and time the market, the smart ones get out while the getinís  good.

Whatís the first thing folks dump when the economy contracts? Yup boats and RVís. Iíve worked hard all my life. Withheld buying expensive toys till I got close to retirement. Now retired I want to enjoy this wonderful hobby, not compete with others.

The park service probably didnít properly estimate the popularity of their holdings. With record number of baby boomers retiring daily and working folks with more leisure time itís only inevitable that public parks are going to be stressed. Public money goes elsewhere.

So about that market contraction Ö.. I guess I am selfish!

you have to plan better and well into the future.  I will plan 2019 trip in 3 months that have us going out west.  Also time of year is critical, early spring or late summer....avoid the 3 month june-july-august periods for the popular places out west
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Re: I guess I'm just ranting
« Reply #33 on: February 05, 2018, 03:26:40 AM »
Hi Timejet,

With a lot of baby boomers retiring, I've always wondered if things might get crowded. Along with high demand of RV campgrounds I've figured that some increase in costs at these campgrounds will occur. This also might be incentive to build more campgrounds in places.

Because of this, I plan to reserve my spaces ahead of time. One can always cancel before it costs you. Figure on doing some bookdocking to lower the average cost of staying on the road, and make room for others.   ;D
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Re: I guess I'm just ranting
« Reply #34 on: February 05, 2018, 09:59:33 AM »
Hi Timejet,

With a lot of baby boomers retiring, I've always wondered if things might get crowded. Along with high demand of RV campgrounds I've figured that some increase in costs at these campgrounds will occur. This also might be incentive to build more campgrounds in places.

Because of this, I plan to reserve my spaces ahead of time. One can always cancel before it costs you. Figure on doing some bookdocking to lower the average cost of staying on the road, and make room for others.   ;D

A full refund is not always the case. Read the fine print before you reserve. Some state parks charge a cancellation fee. Some will charge a fee if you change the site. Not much but still aggravating. I would posit some private CG's do the same.
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Re: I guess I'm just ranting
« Reply #35 on: February 05, 2018, 10:11:28 AM »
A full refund is not always the case. Read the fine print before you reserve. Some state parks charge a cancellation fee. Some will charge a fee if you change the site. Not much but still aggravating. I would posit some private CG's do the same.
:)) They also charge a fee for making the reservation. I think it's $5 per reservation, so you can add that to the cost of the site.
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Re: I guess I'm just ranting
« Reply #36 on: February 05, 2018, 11:55:42 AM »
Right now I'm waiting until 0001 hours on Feb 7 to reserve a site in Kodachrome Basin - 4 months in advance. We want to stay 5 days, I wonder if I'll have to book every morning for the 5 days.

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Hope you are successful at Kodachrome.  When we visited Bryce, we stayed there.  It's a beautiful park, a bit of the drive off the beaten path.   When we stayed there, there were only four full hook up sites and the rest didn't even have electric.  However, I believe they have converted a number of the sites.   I was going to recommend Utah state parks, because the window is four months, not six like the national parks.  When we went to Arches, we stayed at Dead Horse Point (beautiful, but no water on site).
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Re: I guess I'm just ranting
« Reply #37 on: February 05, 2018, 01:30:33 PM »

Right now I'm waiting until 0001 hours on Feb 7 to reserve a site in Kodachrome Basin - 4 months in advance. We want to stay 5 days, I wonder if I'll have to book every morning for the 5 days.

We reserved 3 nights in mid March at Kodachrome in mid January. It was a mid week reservation, Tuesday through Thursday nights. When we made our reservation (mid morning) there were four electric sites available. Two hours later when our friends went to reserve, there were only non-electric sites available. That will be fine since he can charge his CPAP at our place, but it gives you an idea of how things fill up. March and April are popular times at Kodachrome since it gets HOT there beginning in May. And you should be able to get your site by reserving on the first day the reservation window opens.
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Re: I guess I'm just ranting
« Reply #38 on: February 05, 2018, 06:01:08 PM »
There is a trick at least in State parks here in Indiana.  You can reserve 6 months out, 14 days max stay.  It costs $10 to make any changes after you have reserved. 

Example: Say you want the special site at XYZ park on Sept 1,2,3,4.  back up to March 1, and reserve, right.  Try that and every time that special spot will be gone. 

Well, back up another week and reserve it on Feb 25th, and book it August 25 - Sept 4th.  You therefore get your sought after spot over the Labor Day Holiday.  Then about May 1, call and change your reservation to Sept 1,2,3,4.  They will charge you $10, and refund the difference. 

I was floored when I found out this is how others did it.


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Re: I guess I'm just ranting
« Reply #39 on: February 05, 2018, 10:35:27 PM »
There is a trick at least in State parks here in Indiana.  You can reserve 6 months out, 14 days max stay.  It costs $10 to make any changes after you have reserved. 

Example: Say you want the special site at XYZ park on Sept 1,2,3,4.  back up to March 1, and reserve, right.  Try that and every time that special spot will be gone. 

Well, back up another week and reserve it on Feb 25th, and book it August 25 - Sept 4th.  You therefore get your sought after spot over the Labor Day Holiday.  Then about May 1, call and change your reservation to Sept 1,2,3,4.  They will charge you $10, and refund the difference. 

I was floored when I found out this is how others did it.

Thanks that is great intel!!!!!!!!
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