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Wifi hotspot
« on: April 16, 2018, 05:06:41 PM »
Hello All,
I am fixin to take the plunge and get a hot spot for the trailer.  I was wondering if anyone had a suggestion for a hot spot/carrier?  I am leaning toward verizon because of their coverage in the Northwest, but I am on totally new ground.  Any suggestions would be welcome!
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Re: Wifi hotspot
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2018, 05:52:02 PM »
Do you have a smart phone?  Then that will do just fine despite what Verizon stores tell you.  The latest MIFI does a good job.  There is one, I think the latest version that is capable of inputing from an external antenna.  Which is a good thing.
Verizon doea offer the best coverage.  But you might check first where you spend most of your time how the coverage map looks.  I know our favorite camp ground wifi is only good until aboit 6:30 in the morning even with Verizon,

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Re: Wifi hotspot
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2018, 06:24:37 PM »
I use my IPhone 6 as a hotspot for internet use via my tablet. Had a Jetpack for a while but realized it really wasn't necessary and costing $ each month. Phone hotspot is free. Carrier is Verizon.
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Re: Wifi hotspot
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2018, 08:09:58 PM »
We have Verizon and Sheryl uses an Ellipsis Jet Pack for logging into work with  her laptop. When using her cell phone for this, it gets very hot and we are afraid of damaging the battery, so she just uses the Ellipsis. We both use our phones as  hotspots when using our tablets. Neither streams anything more than short videos. Mostly we just email, looking at websites and, of course, this forum.
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Re: Wifi hotspot
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2018, 08:28:00 PM »
We're on Verizon and  use my Note 2 smartphone as a hotspot.   
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Re: Wifi hotspot
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2018, 04:42:18 PM »
We have a Verizon JetPack & an ATT hotspot. We'll take the ATT over the Verizon completely. We aren't on the road no more than 4, maybe five times a year and have the pay as you go programs. Cost per gb is about the same. Our Verizon would cut in and out while driving. This is particularly aggravating when trying to use a mapping app. ATT - solid. The other reason we prefer ATT is that we can renew anytime we want. Add data easily on line. Verizon, if not renewed within 90 days charges a $35.00 re-activation fee. ATT - not.
Neither of us are big cell phone users and both have minimal plans so tethering isn't really practical for us at this point.

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Re: Wifi hotspot
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2018, 05:46:29 PM »
We have both an AT&T and a Verizon hotspot, and it's rare that we have better Verizon service than AT&T. We have low cost unlimited data plans for both, but the Verizon hotspot is limited to 3G speeds only, so the AT&T 4G/LTE hotspot gets the most use by far.
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Re: Wifi hotspot
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2018, 05:53:19 PM »
I usually have 2 or 3 ways to get online from the coach. I gave up on Direcway via a rooftop satellite antenna due to continual hardware (antenna) issues.

I had a T-mobile hotspot for a number of years with great coverage in the US, Canada and Europe. T-mobile apparently lost or cancelled their partnership with AT&T, and coverage in the USA fell off significantly, so I eventually cancelled the service.

I've had a Verizon JetPack for a number of years. It has the advantage (v tethering to my cell phone) of allowing 5 devices to connect at one time, although not as good as the T-mobile hotspot when we have grandkids around (they all have 2 or more devices that need to be online). These internet hogs required me to add a router to the JetPack (thanks to Jeff Cousins for the suggestion), which allows 10 devices to connect concurrently.

I also have the AT&T Mobley hot spot.

While at our summer RV lot in WY, neither Verizon nor At&T have a usable signal, and park wifi is useless, so I signed up with the local comms company for a DSL line to a router that feeds the coach. They had a "vacation hold" charge of only $2/month, but that recently went to $12/month.
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Re: Wifi hotspot
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2018, 06:34:51 PM »
I should mention we also have a Maximum Signal Max Amp RV cell amplifier/repeater that has given us usable signals even in locations where the carrier coverage maps show no service. The Max Amp repeats the roof antenna cell signal on an inside antenna that covers the entire interior of our coach.
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Re: Wifi hotspot
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2018, 06:53:16 PM »
Dutch, which rooftop antenna do you have?
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Re: Wifi hotspot
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2018, 07:09:32 PM »
Dutch, which rooftop antenna do you have?

I'm currently using a pre-release Maximum Signal "SuperMAXX" magnetic antenna, Tom. The standard omni-antenna that ships with the Max Amp RV is your choice of a 5dB mag mount or "trucker" clamp mount. I don't have any specs on the SuperMAXX.
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« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2018, 07:22:08 PM »
Thanks Dutch.
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Re: Wifi hotspot
« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2018, 07:36:35 PM »
I use T-Mobile and it does farily on Freeways. not so good in some areas (S.E. Ga) or on back roads but fairly good on most freeways.

Something you may not know.. Many States the rest areas now offer guest WI=Fi so even if there is no cell tower nearby your map will update on the state's penny.

Also Google maps you can often download a good hunk of map to on-device storage this means the map continues to work even if you have no network.

I like that Google seems to be monitoring all users so if there is a back up ahead you are warned in REAL TIME.
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Re: Wifi hotspot
« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2018, 09:57:32 PM »
Dutch, which rooftop antenna do you have?


And does Max Amp have a high gain directional available yet?
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« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2018, 10:12:26 PM »
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« Reply #15 on: May 26, 2018, 10:23:19 PM »

I like that Google seems to be monitoring all users so if there is a back up ahead you are warned in REAL TIME.

It's the phone's GPS via it's location services that provides the traffic info.  The same thing that plots your location on the map and tells you about nearby restaurants, etc.  It's not just Google but Microsoft, Yahoo, Shadow Traffic and SigAlert all use the same system.

it started in Los Angeles when the location services and GPS were added to the phones.  It didn't take the phone companies long to figure out if there were 50 phones all travelling at 55 MPH down the freeway right of way they could infer traffic was flowing at 55 mph, if the phones slowed to 10 MPH there was a jam up, etc.  They then sell this information to Google, etc.
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« Reply #16 on: May 26, 2018, 10:30:48 PM »
Yes...

https://www.maximumsignal.net/store/?model_number=A_TS221071Yagi
Interesting because when I first looked at Max Amp they did not, and during my discussion with them I recall them saying something along the lines of a directional wouldn't comply with the FCC requirements they had to follow.

I note though that they do not list gain specs for this antenna, which makes it impossible to compare to others
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« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2018, 07:37:12 AM »
The high gain yagi may not have been submitted to the FCC as part of the new "package" testing requirements, but that doesn't mean you can't hang one up there as an end user. I don't know if Gord has a gain spec available for the yagi or not.
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Re: Wifi hotspot
« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2018, 01:28:21 PM »
Yes there is still truly unlimited and unthrottled data with Verizon.
I hate all the “unlimited” talk...with the “but” somewhere in there.  >:(
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« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2018, 10:46:46 PM »
We use our phone hot spots (via AT&T) whenever we travel since public wireless is so susceptible to hacking (one trick hackers are using these days is to pretend to be a free WIFI hot spot and when you connect, they are monitoring every packet you send/receive, including password information).


As an added benefit to anyone using both AT&T and DirectTV is that AT&T will allow you to stream all your DirectTV content unlimited, and without impact to your data usage. When on the road, we'll use Chromecast to stream our DirectTV programming to our rig's TV from the phone without having to worry about our data plan.
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Re: Wifi hotspot
« Reply #20 on: September 25, 2018, 08:46:01 PM »
I should mention we also have a Maximum Signal Max Amp RV cell amplifier/repeater that has given us usable signals even in locations where the carrier coverage maps show no service. The Max Amp repeats the roof antenna cell signal on an inside antenna that covers the entire interior of our coach.

I see the thread has not been posted in a while. I have same maximum signal set up as Dutch and I have the exterior antenna mounted on chunk of telescopic mast so I can raise it about 9ft above our roof when parked. Makes a big difference with marginal cell signals. I just received a net buddy sim card today I am testing out with an old netgear att excite express hotspot. For true unlimited and unthrottled data for $60/month I am willing to give it a shot. I'll do some updates later this week but my first test of speeds in my RV parked in my driveway and my cell antenna not extended I was getting consistent 9mbps download speeds. The ATT Tower is a distance away so I'm pretty pleased with that speed at  6pm tonight. .
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Re: Wifi hotspot
« Reply #21 on: September 25, 2018, 10:31:27 PM »
Believe it or not there are certain devices sold by Verizon for business use that can guarantee a 30m dowload...I use this on my design where centurylink wireline access is shoddy..its not the "mifi" hopefully when 5 g comes out which is millimeter wave and applied to mobile all this talk will be moot.
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« Reply #22 on: September 25, 2018, 10:34:55 PM »
We use our phone hot spots (via AT&T) whenever we travel since public wireless is so susceptible to hacking (one trick hackers are using these days is to pretend to be a free WIFI hot spot and when you connect, they are monitoring every packet you send/receive, including password information).


As an added benefit to anyone using both AT&T and DirectTV is that AT&T will allow you to stream all your DirectTV content unlimited, and without impact to your data usage. When on the road, we'll use Chromecast to stream our DirectTV programming to our rig's TV from the phone without having to worry about our data plan.
It called being onnet like " Tmobile" and Netflix..or Verizon and webex..all carriers use to charge for "onnet" service but with competition now they are free.
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Re: Wifi hotspot
« Reply #23 on: September 26, 2018, 07:36:17 AM »
Not quite.DirecTV and DirecHDTV are in fact now AT&T so you are not "onnet" you are "In house" when yo ustream DTV via an AT&T device. this is also a political hot potato so I won't comment in that area.

T-Mobile has an arrangement with at least one Streaming provider, as does Verizon.   But with T and V it's an arrangement with the provider. not a monopoly type ownership.
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« Reply #24 on: September 28, 2018, 06:53:36 AM »
My first test using net buddy sim in a netgear excite express. I wasn't pleased with either the reception capability or wifi transmission range of the unit. I then got the netgear united pro and that made all the difference. MY download speeds were consistent 8-10mbps thru out my Class C and 15ft outside.  The 8-10mbps was great as our ATT cell signal is pretty marginal and my Maximum Signal Cell booster increased my bandwidth almost 100%. Now I gotta get net buddy to allow me to "suspend" my account until February when we take off to Florida for 3 months.  The only downside the RV park we stay at is wifi, their in park service sucks and is badly throttled and you have to pay extra on top. Last season I upgraded our ATT cell package to unlimited but that ran over $100 more a month and they throttle the speed.  With net buddy I see our solution.
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Re: Wifi hotspot
« Reply #25 on: September 28, 2018, 07:04:01 PM »
I'm thinking of grabbing a cheap used AT&T 4G capable tablet on eBay and using AT&T's DataConnect Pass at $30/mo unlimited with the usual "managed" limit after 22GB. I believe that's the same plan NetBuddy is marking up to $60 for resale. That plan is supposed to be for tablets only, but the SIM does work in other devices as well. No idea for how long though. If AT&T's system sees tablets as in the hotspot class, then it should be ok for a long time.

https://buyasession.att.com/sbd/Common/ShopRatePlans.action
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Re: Wifi hotspot
« Reply #26 on: September 29, 2018, 07:34:54 AM »
I'm thinking of grabbing a cheap used AT&T 4G capable tablet on eBay and using AT&T's DataConnect Pass at $30/mo unlimited with the usual "managed" limit after 22GB. I believe that's the same plan NetBuddy is marking up to $60 for resale. That plan is supposed to be for tablets only, but the SIM does work in other devices as well. No idea for how long though. If AT&T's system sees tablets as in the hotspot class, then it should be ok for a long time.

https://buyasession.att.com/sbd/Common/ShopRatePlans.action

big difference is netbuddy has no cap. In my 3 days  of testing I have shot thru 36GB of data as I have it hooked up to my entertainment centers in the house via Roku and running youtube videos almost nonstop.  The netbuddy sim also works in 4g tablets as I have checked that too with LG tablet, only issue with stock software/rom in the tablet I can't use the actual hotspot function as its an ATT badge tablet and ATT does an account check for hotspot use.  Thats another issue I may address.
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Re: Wifi hotspot
« Reply #27 on: September 29, 2018, 10:35:10 AM »
big difference is netbuddy has no cap. In my 3 days  of testing I have shot thru 36GB of data as I have it hooked up to my entertainment centers in the house via Roku and running youtube videos almost nonstop.  The netbuddy sim also works in 4g tablets as I have checked that too with LG tablet, only issue with stock software/rom in the tablet I can't use the actual hotspot function as its an ATT badge tablet and ATT does an account check for hotspot use.  Thats another issue I may address.

You do know that AT&T's "management" after 22GB only amounts to brief slow downs on congested towers, right? I have the same "limit" on my Connected Car Plan and have never noticed any slow downs that were any different than the normal slowdowns we typically see on any busy tower. I really don't know which slowdowns were due to managing and which were normal, since the same thing happens even before hitting the 22GB limit.
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Re: Wifi hotspot
« Reply #28 on: October 01, 2018, 06:28:43 AM »
Dutch,

ATT management doesn;t control net buddy's access and why I can have unlimited, unthrottle data only.  The only slow down would be from cell tower congestion that would happen to all cells accessing that tower
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Re: Wifi hotspot
« Reply #29 on: October 01, 2018, 07:38:34 AM »
Believe it or not there are certain devices sold by Verizon for business use that can guarantee a 30m dowload...I use this on my design where centurylink wireline access is shoddy..its not the "mifi" hopefully when 5 g comes out which is millimeter wave and applied to mobile all this talk will be moot.
5g will be delivered to home first then mobile.


4G LTE is good for 150 mbps down and 50 mbps up with the right modem.

The OP might like to checkout the AT&T mobley and $20 per month plan if still available.

I replaced my mobley device with a netgear lb1120, average down is 40 to 60 mbps and upload is around 30 mbps
huge improvement in performance. before switching I contacted at&t to see if changing device would be a problem and they said it was ok as the device is a data modem and not a phone.. if i put the sim into a phone they would suspend my account.. !

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