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Spike1306

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Putting push bikes inside the RV
« on: September 02, 2018, 03:16:56 PM »
Hi

We will be hiring an RV next year for our holidays to yellow stone park and various other places.
The last time we hired an RV we found it pretty limiting once you are hooked up on a site so we though this time we would buy a couple of cheep push bikes from a Walmart and take them with us then get rid at the end of the trip (give them to the last  aprk or someone on the park) This way we can go shopping and just generally get around and see the places we stay instead of the road in the road out and the RV park.

does anyone carry pushbikes without a carrier on the rear of the RV and just put them inside and if so is this easy to do as from what I can remember the doors are not that wide.

Thanks 

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Re: Putting push bikes inside the RV
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2018, 03:30:33 PM »
Sounds like a good idea. I think the bikes would go through the door with ease.
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Re: Putting push bikes inside the RV
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2018, 05:54:30 PM »
What is a Push bike?
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Re: Putting push bikes inside the RV
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2018, 06:06:04 PM »
We have  been thinking about lightweight electric scooters for this purpose.

I must look up what a push bike is............

We want something simple but capable of getting us around.
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Re: Putting push bikes inside the RV
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2018, 07:00:38 PM »
If it's a push bike why don't you just walk. Lol just giving you a hard time. We had hauled our bikes in fifth wheel before. Wasn't ideal but the mount broke on our rack. They will fit fine.
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Re: Putting push bikes inside the RV
« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2018, 09:13:53 PM »
What is a Push bike?

British, New Zealand or Australian term for bicycle.
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« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2018, 11:32:44 PM »
This plan will certainly work well.  However, there are limitations.  It may be  a few miles for groceries or other items.  To actually travel around Yellowstone or most other parks will require 50 mile ... 100 mile rides.  You may be better off renting a car for a couple days to visit the park.
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Re: Putting push bikes inside the RV
« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2018, 11:45:51 PM »
British, New Zealand or Australian term for bicycle.

Ah, THAT EXPLAINS IT,   Four countries united by a common language which is  mostly understandable, one to the other, and incomprehensible to most of the balance of the world. ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Putting push bikes inside the RV
« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2018, 12:30:02 AM »
Spike,
Much depends on what you expect, and what you're physically capable of doing.
Cheap Walmart bikes are OK for casual limited mileage. What you're contemplating are utility bikes for groceries, shopping, and seeing the sights. This could involve considerable distance. How do you plan on carrying groceries?
Panniers? Cart? BOB trailer?
It's possible, but cheap ill fitted bikes with no cargo capacity might not be the solution you're looking for. Much depends on the mileage you're looking at, depending on where you're staying and the proximity of where you're planning to go.
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« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2018, 03:08:31 AM »
This plan will certainly work well.  However, there are limitations.  It may be  a few miles for groceries or other items.  To actually travel around Yellowstone or most other parks will require 50 mile ... 100 mile rides.  You may be better off renting a car for a couple days to visit the park.

Yellowstone has areas where bicycles would be fun, but very limiting. People often forget just how vast the park is...and how far it is between the "major attractions." Also, don't forget the wildlife...buffalo jams are pretty common...and I don't think I'd want to deal with tatanka while on a bicycle.

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Re: Putting push bikes inside the RV
« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2018, 07:42:55 AM »
Bikes would be great.  Don't have too high of expectations, and those hills can be a real challenge to pedal up, I guess push bikes may be in order.

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Re: Putting push bikes inside the RV
« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2018, 07:51:25 AM »
Yellowstone has areas where bicycles would be fun, but very limiting. People often forget just how vast the park is...and how far it is between the "major attractions." Also, don't forget the wildlife...buffalo jams are pretty common...and I don't think I'd want to deal with tatanka while on a bicycle.

http://www.whodah.com/albums/album17/aaf.sized.jpg
(that's a very minor buffalo jam)
The distances involved, the wildlife and the elevation will stop you from using a bike at Yellowstone. Yellowstone is located between 6000 and 10000 feet and a flatlander will be out of breath in a big hurry. My suggestion is to go to West Yellowstone and rent a car while you are there. You will then actually get to see some of the attractions.
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Re: Putting push bikes inside the RV
« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2018, 09:02:18 AM »
Biggest issue is that unless they are strapped down they will roll and fall over and scratch everything so just make sure they are secure, the other issue will be unless you put them outside when you stop they will be in the way, my suggestion is buy an inexpensive bile rack and mount and put on the rear of the trailer
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Re: Putting push bikes inside the RV
« Reply #13 on: September 03, 2018, 11:19:10 AM »
This plan will certainly work well.  However, there are limitations.  It may be  a few miles for groceries or other items.  To actually travel around Yellowstone or most other parks will require 50 mile ... 100 mile rides.  You may be better off renting a car for a couple days to visit the park.

Ah sorry yes we are hiring a car for Yellowstone park its just all the other places we are visiting on the way there, mostly one or two night stops.

We just found it so limiting last time with no other form of transport when hiring and RV, we used to look at all the other RV with bike racks or towing a vehicle and think how jealous we where

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Re: Putting push bikes inside the RV
« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2018, 11:22:23 AM »
Spike,
Much depends on what you expect, and what you're physically capable of doing.
Cheap Walmart bikes are OK for casual limited mileage. What you're contemplating are utility bikes for groceries, shopping, and seeing the sights. This could involve considerable distance. How do you plan on carrying groceries?
Panniers? Cart? BOB trailer?
It's possible, but cheap ill fitted bikes with no cargo capacity might not be the solution you're looking for. Much depends on the mileage you're looking at, depending on where you're staying and the proximity of where you're planning to go.

Oh believe me these are just to get us off the camp site into the local town etc, nothing major, carrying groceries would be a back pack, this would just be the stuff we either forgot to get at a walmart or supermarket on the way into where ever we are, few beers wine etc nothing like a full shop.  When we go to yellowstone we will be hiring a small car for the 4 days we are there to get us around

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Re: Putting push bikes inside the RV
« Reply #15 on: September 03, 2018, 11:23:50 AM »
The distances involved, the wildlife and the elevation will stop you from using a bike at Yellowstone. Yellowstone is located between 6000 and 10000 feet and a flatlander will be out of breath in a big hurry. My suggestion is to go to West Yellowstone and rent a car while you are there. You will then actually get to see some of the attractions.

Thats what we plan to do is hire a car, the bikes are just to get us into the local towns as we make our way there

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Re: Putting push bikes inside the RV
« Reply #16 on: September 03, 2018, 05:00:52 PM »
So, What is a good electric  scooter?

Anyone here have one?

The original poster and I may benefit  from the information.

Thanks in advance.
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Re: Putting push bikes inside the RV
« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2018, 07:47:49 AM »
To answer multiple issues at one time
Push Bike... People get upset when I say WE DO NOT SPEAK ENGLISH here in the USA (We speak American English it is a variation but .. Well if you are from England .. Describe a cookie and a biscuit or a pudding and a sauce.. I do know both shores meanings for all 4 of those words but do you???).

What good is an electric scooter?   Well in many parks there are activities inside the park. And in nearly all parks there is a LAUNDRY.. Some folks use park showers.. I mean Tomorrow when I shower in the big Handicapped shower at Lakeshore I like that because it is BIG. Unlimited (From my prespective) hot water. Good flow and pressure.. As opposed to the phone booth in my RV (And not even all of a phone booth) with a 6 Gallon hot tank.

The park I winter at has (or had) pot luck dinners every week in the spring.  And other dinners during the winter.. The park I'm in now I had dinner (BBQ Pulled Pork, sandwich Sausage. Veggies and so on) (Professional Pit Master on the Pork too,, Man knows how to do it). Here at the park. ELectric scooter for some is the best way to get to events WITHIN the park Including visiting your friends.

I use a bicycle for that most of the time.. .But this trip and I'm still recovering from too long down time. I'm too far from family center so drive car.

I even have a "Wagon" I can tow with my bicycle.
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Re: Putting push bikes inside the RV
« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2018, 10:48:39 AM »
I often carry a bike on my bed in the back. I just lay down a moving blanket first. I get it in and out by rolling it on its back wheel holding on to the handlebars. Bike isn't much bigger than a person that way, and it's weight stays on it's own wheel, not my arms. Just come in the door backwards pulling it up the steps.

Just like the lady in the random picture from the web, if my description didn't make sense. (Nevermind she's storing it in the picture, it's the orientation I'm talking about.)
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« Reply #19 on: September 04, 2018, 06:15:06 PM »
Here is my homemade bike rack and spare tire on my back bumper.
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« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2018, 04:02:17 PM »
Some general information about YNP (some items apply to GTNP also)

YNP is about 45 miles E/W and about 65 miles N/S (2.2 mil. Acres total). The figure 8 loop road inside the park is about 140 miles around. The lower loop is 96 miles and the upper loop is 70 miles around and yes, it is bigger than the states of Rhode Island and Delaware combined.

Whatever time that you think you will need to see YNP you better double it, or to say it another way is that you will see one half as much as you planned on in the allotted time. The Bison think that they own the road (they do!) and will slow down the traffic to walking speed or all stop for 1/4 mile or more blocking both directions of travel, the thermal attractions also tie up traffic and with a 5 month long summer tourist season that coincides with a 5 month long road construction season and a 45 MPH radar controlled speed limit it will take about a full day to see each loop and then you will only see the main attractions. In addition to the occasional construction delays they will also sometimes close whole sections of road (for uninterrupted night construction) between 10 PM and 8 AM in the morning, if you are running late and get caught at night in the wrong area it CAN be a LONG way around to your CG! (The entrance stations will have current construction information or go on line to check it out)

Then there is the elevation- YNP ranges from a low at Mammoth- 6239 ft to 7784 ft at Fishing Bridge or higher if you go hiking and there are passes on the grand loop road that are close to 8000 ft or so! Drink plenty of liquids and pace yourself when walking.

I recommend that you get up EARLY, leave the CG and be back by 4 or 6 PM have dinner and be sitting in your recliner drinking a cool one when your neighbor drags himself back to the CG at 8-10 PM. Remember that from mid May to mid July in YNP the sun doesn't set until about 9:30- 9:45 PM then there is a long twilight.

Cell Phone Service- Only at the major visitor centers, otherwise spotty to non-existent!

Clothing- Especially in the early or late season it is not unusual to have a 30 or even the occasional 40 degree temperature change throughout the day. Dress with easily shed layers of clothing. Also dress in bright easily seen clothing. I am sure that we all have been to a sporting event, parade or Disney World etc. and we blink our eyes and our partner/child has disappeared. My DIL was born and raised in HI, you guessed it, every Xmas, b-day or Father's Day I receive a Hawaiian shirt. One of them is  shiny black with 4-5 inch dia. bright flowers. Not many of them in Wyoming and in YSNP, that is what I wear. If your partner has on a Violet blouse and a Orange scarf with a Pink hat I guarantee that she will be the only one within the boundaries of either NP. It can save you a few anxious moments.

Water- Now I will have to contradict myself, at the altitude of YNP yes, drink lots of water!     HOWEVER, be aware that the flush toilet restrooms are are in the major tourist areas- Mammoth, Canyon, Fishing Bridge, Lake Hotel, Bridge Bay, Grant Village, Old Faithful, Madison Junction etc. The geyser basins and other thermal attractions areas only have pit toilets. I have seen the pit toilet line (2 rest rooms) at the lower Geyser Basin 25 or more feet long (bless the tour buses) So be smart about drinking your water and use the major tourist area R/Rs before leaving the area! I.e. “Never pass up a flush toilet!”

Sun- At YSNP altitude the Sun is intense (uv)have and apply sunscreen, wear that old floppy wide brim sun hat, wear Sunglasses!

If your luck is like mine Old Faithful will have just erupted when you get there and you will have up to a hour and 10 to 15 minutes wait for the next one. Tour tour the O/F Geyser basin while waiting. O/F INN is a must see, reportedly the largest LOG building in the U.S. (Meals in the O/F dinning room are “OK” also.

We have lived about 110 miles from West Yellowstone, MT since 1964, go to YSNP 3-4 times a summer (normally before Memorial Day and after Labor Day) and haven't seen it all yet! So don’t be discouraged that you didn’t have the time to see all of it. Just plan on coming back another time!

I honestly don’t mean to scare or discourage you but to give you a heads up as to what to expect! After all there was 4.1 million visitors in 2015!  As far as I know we didn’t lose one of them. Except those who by their own stupidity step off the board walks into BOILING HOT water and ignoring the warnings about the WILD ANIMALS!  That is called purifying the gene pool!Early in the summer of 2017 a foreign visitor stepped off a boardwalk into just a few inches of hot water. He walked about 100 yards (according to the newspaper) broke thru the crust and parboiled himself. The park service decided not to try to retrieve the body! Between the temperature of the water and the acidity of it the body would just fall apart when retrieving it, as well as being dangerous to the rangers. Of course a few Bison fall in every winter also.

Note I have seen on this blog and others about folks “day tripping” from YSNP to GTNP, it is done all the time (myself included) however remember this is BIG country and with the speed limits, animals and thermal attractions you will NOT come close to a 60- 65 MPH average. From the West Thumb Area, Grant Village Visitor Center (extreme S/E corner of the lower loop road) to Jackson, WY is about 80 miles with Coulter Bay being about 1/2 way then from Grant Village you have to add the distance to your CG it will be a Long days trip!

A point of Coulter Bay (in GTNP) clarification- there are two (2) CG’s at Coulter Bay, One, the “Coulter Bay RV Park” a full service “RV Park” with FHU’S that takes reservations. The other is the “Coulter Bay Campground “ has no hookups and doesn’t take reservations. Both have about 300 sites and are located basically across the road from each other.

Also in GTNP be sure to see Jenny Lake, the water is swimming pool clear! You almost feel like you are in space when you are on the boat dock and you can see the rental boat shadows on the bottom of the lake!

When in the Jackson area I highly recommend seeing the Bar J Chuckwagon dinner show! If you go, MAKE RESERVATIONS and BE THERE EARLY TO PICK UP YOUR MEAL TICKETS/ TABLE SEATING ASSIGNMENTS! They seat you by when you show up to get your tickets NOT by your reservation number. Tim, their fiddle player has won the "Idaho state old time fiddle contest 7 times and the US open fiddle championship twice".  If you decide to go you will sit at picnic type of bench seats/table, they get pretty hard, I recommend that you take along a blanket/pads to sit on. We day trip it there 2-4 times every summer just to see them! Disclaimer- We have no financial or other interest in the Bar J only that it will be the best $$ value for your money for your trip! Check out their website. 

http://www.barjchuckwagon.com

Also in Jackson check out the “COWBOY” bar, the bar stools are saddles and check out the # of Silver Dollars imbedded in the bar. The Wort Hotel Bar (just around the corner from the Cowboy Bar) also has Silver Dollars imbedded in the Bar

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Re: Putting push bikes inside the RV
« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2018, 12:21:55 PM »
What good is an electric scooter?

That is NOT the question I asked.

I asked  THIS question:

What is a good electric scooter.

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« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2018, 07:39:04 PM »
Just switched a couple words. what is the issue  ;D ;)
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Re: Putting push bikes inside the RV
« Reply #23 on: September 15, 2018, 04:31:14 PM »
Some general information about YNP (some items apply to GTNP also)

YNP is about 45 miles E/W and about 65 miles N/S (2.2 mil. Acres total). The figure 8 loop road inside the park is about 140 miles around. The lower loop is 96 miles and the upper loop is 70 miles around and yes, it is bigger than the states of Rhode Island and Delaware combined.

Whatever time that you think you will need to see YNP you better double it, or to say it another way is that you will see one half as much as you planned on in the allotted time. The Bison think that they own the road (they do!) and will slow down the traffic to walking speed or all stop for 1/4 mile or more blocking both directions of travel, the thermal attractions also tie up traffic and with a 5 month long summer tourist season that coincides with a 5 month long road construction season and a 45 MPH radar controlled speed limit it will take about a full day to see each loop and then you will only see the main attractions. In addition to the occasional construction delays they will also sometimes close whole sections of road (for uninterrupted night construction) between 10 PM and 8 AM in the morning, if you are running late and get caught at night in the wrong area it CAN be a LONG way around to your CG! (The entrance stations will have current construction information or go on line to check it out)

Then there is the elevation- YNP ranges from a low at Mammoth- 6239 ft to 7784 ft at Fishing Bridge or higher if you go hiking and there are passes on the grand loop road that are close to 8000 ft or so! Drink plenty of liquids and pace yourself when walking.

I recommend that you get up EARLY, leave the CG and be back by 4 or 6 PM have dinner and be sitting in your recliner drinking a cool one when your neighbor drags himself back to the CG at 8-10 PM. Remember that from mid May to mid July in YNP the sun doesn't set until about 9:30- 9:45 PM then there is a long twilight.

Cell Phone Service- Only at the major visitor centers, otherwise spotty to non-existent!

Clothing- Especially in the early or late season it is not unusual to have a 30 or even the occasional 40 degree temperature change throughout the day. Dress with easily shed layers of clothing. Also dress in bright easily seen clothing. I am sure that we all have been to a sporting event, parade or Disney World etc. and we blink our eyes and our partner/child has disappeared. My DIL was born and raised in HI, you guessed it, every Xmas, b-day or Father's Day I receive a Hawaiian shirt. One of them is  shiny black with 4-5 inch dia. bright flowers. Not many of them in Wyoming and in YSNP, that is what I wear. If your partner has on a Violet blouse and a Orange scarf with a Pink hat I guarantee that she will be the only one within the boundaries of either NP. It can save you a few anxious moments.

Water- Now I will have to contradict myself, at the altitude of YNP yes, drink lots of water!     HOWEVER, be aware that the flush toilet restrooms are are in the major tourist areas- Mammoth, Canyon, Fishing Bridge, Lake Hotel, Bridge Bay, Grant Village, Old Faithful, Madison Junction etc. The geyser basins and other thermal attractions areas only have pit toilets. I have seen the pit toilet line (2 rest rooms) at the lower Geyser Basin 25 or more feet long (bless the tour buses) So be smart about drinking your water and use the major tourist area R/Rs before leaving the area! I.e. “Never pass up a flush toilet!”

Sun- At YSNP altitude the Sun is intense (uv)have and apply sunscreen, wear that old floppy wide brim sun hat, wear Sunglasses!

If your luck is like mine Old Faithful will have just erupted when you get there and you will have up to a hour and 10 to 15 minutes wait for the next one. Tour tour the O/F Geyser basin while waiting. O/F INN is a must see, reportedly the largest LOG building in the U.S. (Meals in the O/F dinning room are “OK” also.

We have lived about 110 miles from West Yellowstone, MT since 1964, go to YSNP 3-4 times a summer (normally before Memorial Day and after Labor Day) and haven't seen it all yet! So don’t be discouraged that you didn’t have the time to see all of it. Just plan on coming back another time!

I honestly don’t mean to scare or discourage you but to give you a heads up as to what to expect! After all there was 4.1 million visitors in 2015!  As far as I know we didn’t lose one of them. Except those who by their own stupidity step off the board walks into BOILING HOT water and ignoring the warnings about the WILD ANIMALS!  That is called purifying the gene pool!Early in the summer of 2017 a foreign visitor stepped off a boardwalk into just a few inches of hot water. He walked about 100 yards (according to the newspaper) broke thru the crust and parboiled himself. The park service decided not to try to retrieve the body! Between the temperature of the water and the acidity of it the body would just fall apart when retrieving it, as well as being dangerous to the rangers. Of course a few Bison fall in every winter also.

Note I have seen on this blog and others about folks “day tripping” from YSNP to GTNP, it is done all the time (myself included) however remember this is BIG country and with the speed limits, animals and thermal attractions you will NOT come close to a 60- 65 MPH average. From the West Thumb Area, Grant Village Visitor Center (extreme S/E corner of the lower loop road) to Jackson, WY is about 80 miles with Coulter Bay being about 1/2 way then from Grant Village you have to add the distance to your CG it will be a Long days trip!

A point of Coulter Bay (in GTNP) clarification- there are two (2) CG’s at Coulter Bay, One, the “Coulter Bay RV Park” a full service “RV Park” with FHU’S that takes reservations. The other is the “Coulter Bay Campground “ has no hookups and doesn’t take reservations. Both have about 300 sites and are located basically across the road from each other.

Also in GTNP be sure to see Jenny Lake, the water is swimming pool clear! You almost feel like you are in space when you are on the boat dock and you can see the rental boat shadows on the bottom of the lake!

When in the Jackson area I highly recommend seeing the Bar J Chuckwagon dinner show! If you go, MAKE RESERVATIONS and BE THERE EARLY TO PICK UP YOUR MEAL TICKETS/ TABLE SEATING ASSIGNMENTS! They seat you by when you show up to get your tickets NOT by your reservation number. Tim, their fiddle player has won the "Idaho state old time fiddle contest 7 times and the US open fiddle championship twice".  If you decide to go you will sit at picnic type of bench seats/table, they get pretty hard, I recommend that you take along a blanket/pads to sit on. We day trip it there 2-4 times every summer just to see them! Disclaimer- We have no financial or other interest in the Bar J only that it will be the best $$ value for your money for your trip! Check out their website. 

http://www.barjchuckwagon.com

Also in Jackson check out the “COWBOY” bar, the bar stools are saddles and check out the # of Silver Dollars imbedded in the bar. The Wort Hotel Bar (just around the corner from the Cowboy Bar) also has Silver Dollars imbedded in the Bar

WOW thank you for such an interesting write up, I know we will not get to see everything even in the three days staying there and driving a car around the park. but I am hoping to see wild life when there.
I will check out all the places you mentioned and if we can fit them in we certainly will.

Thanks again for the post