Arch Hoagland
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I'd be curious to know how they are going to shoot it down.
Arch Hoagland said:I'd be curious to know how they are going to shoot it down.
Arch Hoagland said:I'd be curious to know how they are going to shoot it down.
Arch Hoagland said:I'd be curious to know how they are going to shoot it down.
And how heavy is the battery that is needed to provide the 30 watts it needs, in addition to that needed to fly? On a unit that weighs less than a pound, or even a couple of pounds?NY_Dutch said:How about 20 grams?
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No you will never kill it but you must regulate it just as the FAA regulates airplane flights and, yes, I do mean filing a flight plan even if it means just for a local area. Avoidance of conflicts in the air is a must.sightseers said:You can't ban civilian use drones.
It would kill one of the greatest photographic advancements of the century.
Larry N. said:And how heavy is the battery that is needed to provide the 30 watts it needs, in addition to that needed to fly? On a unit that weighs less than a pound, or even a couple of pounds?
A DJI is much bigger and heavier and maybe it has the power (both battery and motor) available to carry that battery too, but those small ones don't. For example, this Parrot model weighs 500 grams (about 1.6 lbs). How do you get 30 watts of additional battery on it for "Up to 25 min?" And where does the motor power come from to carry that extra weight, especially at 5,000 feet elevation or more (I live at 5230 feet)?
Bill,Bill N said:No you will never kill it but you must regulate it just as the FAA regulates airplane flights and, yes, I do mean filing a flight plan even if it means just for a local area. Avoidance of conflicts in the air is a must.
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Not all flights are "regulated" in the sense you seem to mean, other than the need to follow specific rules (distance from structures, clearance from clouds, etc.), that is, unless you are in certain airspace or flying under IFR. So the FAA/ATC (Air Traffic Control) will never know about these flights. And some rules are already in place, but many "drone operators" ignore those rules, or some don't even know about them.just as the FAA regulates airplane flights
You don?t ?shoot? them down, you jammthe 2.4GHz control receiver. That forces the flight controller to revert to ?RTH? mode. then you also jam the 1.5GHz GPS receiver so it now doesn?t know where Home really is. At that point the theory is it will land where it is. These devices exist and look like rifles with beam antennas on them and they are reasonably effective, but the problem is they?re highly regulated (they have to be), likely still to military only because jamming GPS downlinks is not only illegal, its extremely dangerous to other nearby aircraft or other devices using GPS reference, and that includes shutting down major communications links at the scene. Either of those system failures will also kill air ops in a heartbeat.Arch Hoagland said:I'd be curious to know how they are going to shoot it down.
SCVJeff said:You don?t ?shoot? them down, you jammthe 2.4GHz control receiver. That forces the flight controller to revert to ?RTH? mode. then you also jam the 1.5GHz GPS receiver so it now doesn?t know where Home really is. At that point the theory is it will land where it is. These devices exist and look like rifles with beam antennas on them and they are reasonably effective, but the problem is they?re highly regulated (they have to be), likely still to military only because jamming GPS downlinks is not only illegal, its extremely dangerous to other nearby aircraft or other devices using GPS reference, and that includes shutting down major communications links at the scene. Either of those system failures will also kill air ops in a heartbeat.
Unlike 99.9% of these appliance operators that bought theirs and really have no clue, I built mine long before they were ?for sale?. Its big, its fast, and with carbon fibre blades, and its really dangerous. When it flies, there is NOBODY in front of me, and its never flown around a populous area or anyplace there are active air ops in progress. I?m not a licensed pilot but have spent several hundred hours flying (when the pilot lets me have the controls), and passenger in news ops over Los Angeles and am particularly keen on safety in the sky and know how fast things can go really wrong.
Its too bad those 99%+ have ruined it for the rest of us. The train on regulating these things left a long time ago, mostly because the FAA caved to pressure for doing nothing at the time. All that can be done now is actively confiscate offenders with big fines, and educate the rest that this WILL happen to them as well.
Oldgator73 said:Gatwick IH in the UK was shut down last night due to drones spotted at the end of the runways. Not sure when it will open but there will be a huge backlog when reopened.
jackiemac said:They're saying it might be closed all,day tomorrow too! Madness.
It opened for a while then opened again.Gizmo100 said:That's just crazy...But I don't blame them for shutting it down.