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Re: New Law Lets The Government Shoot Down Drones
« Reply #31 on: October 14, 2018, 09:20:08 AM »
Interesting article, I was at the festival yesterday and did not see or hear one drone.  And there were tons of LEO all throughout the crowd, so there were eyes everywhere.
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Re: New Law Lets The Government Shoot Down Drones
« Reply #32 on: October 16, 2018, 03:22:34 AM »
I'd be curious to know how they are going to shoot it down.
You don’t “shoot” them down, you jammthe 2.4GHz control receiver. That forces the flight controller to revert to ‘RTH’ mode. then you also jam the 1.5GHz GPS receiver so it now doesn’t know where Home really is. At that point the theory is it will land where it is. These devices exist and look like rifles with beam antennas on them and they are reasonably effective, but the problem is they’re highly regulated (they have to be), likely still to military only because jamming GPS downlinks is not only illegal, its extremely dangerous to other nearby aircraft or other devices using GPS reference, and that includes shutting down major communications links at the scene. Either of those system failures will also kill air ops in a heartbeat.

Unlike 99.9% of these appliance operators that bought theirs and really have no clue, I built mine long before they were “for sale”. Its big, its fast, and with carbon fibre blades, and its really dangerous. When it flies, there is NOBODY in front of me, and its never flown around a populous area or anyplace there are active air ops in progress. I’m not a licensed pilot but have spent several hundred hours flying (when the pilot lets me have the controls), and passenger in news ops over Los Angeles and am particularly keen on safety in the sky and know how fast things can go really wrong.

Its too bad those 99%+ have ruined it for the rest of us. The train on regulating these things left a long time ago, mostly because the FAA caved to pressure for doing nothing at the time. All that can be done now is actively confiscate offenders with big fines, and educate the rest that this WILL happen to them as well.
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Re: New Law Lets The Government Shoot Down Drones
« Reply #33 on: October 16, 2018, 10:44:46 AM »
You don’t “shoot” them down, you jammthe 2.4GHz control receiver. That forces the flight controller to revert to ‘RTH’ mode. then you also jam the 1.5GHz GPS receiver so it now doesn’t know where Home really is. At that point the theory is it will land where it is. These devices exist and look like rifles with beam antennas on them and they are reasonably effective, but the problem is they’re highly regulated (they have to be), likely still to military only because jamming GPS downlinks is not only illegal, its extremely dangerous to other nearby aircraft or other devices using GPS reference, and that includes shutting down major communications links at the scene. Either of those system failures will also kill air ops in a heartbeat.

Unlike 99.9% of these appliance operators that bought theirs and really have no clue, I built mine long before they were “for sale”. Its big, its fast, and with carbon fibre blades, and its really dangerous. When it flies, there is NOBODY in front of me, and its never flown around a populous area or anyplace there are active air ops in progress. I’m not a licensed pilot but have spent several hundred hours flying (when the pilot lets me have the controls), and passenger in news ops over Los Angeles and am particularly keen on safety in the sky and know how fast things can go really wrong.

Its too bad those 99%+ have ruined it for the rest of us. The train on regulating these things left a long time ago, mostly because the FAA caved to pressure for doing nothing at the time. All that can be done now is actively confiscate offenders with big fines, and educate the rest that this WILL happen to them as well.

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Re: New Law Lets The Government Shoot Down Drones
« Reply #34 on: December 20, 2018, 09:06:35 AM »
Gatwick IH in the UK was shut down last night due to drones spotted at the end of the runways. Not sure when it will open but there will be a huge backlog when reopened.
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Re: New Law Lets The Government Shoot Down Drones
« Reply #35 on: December 20, 2018, 09:33:20 AM »
Gatwick IH in the UK was shut down last night due to drones spotted at the end of the runways. Not sure when it will open but there will be a huge backlog when reopened.


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Re: New Law Lets The Government Shoot Down Drones
« Reply #36 on: December 20, 2018, 06:50:33 PM »
They're saying it might be closed all,day tomorrow too! Madness.
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Re: New Law Lets The Government Shoot Down Drones
« Reply #37 on: December 20, 2018, 07:44:45 PM »
They're saying it might be closed all,day tomorrow too! Madness.

That's just crazy...But I don't blame them for shutting it down.
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Re: New Law Lets The Government Shoot Down Drones
« Reply #38 on: December 20, 2018, 10:28:36 PM »
Wonder when the yellow Vests will start that in France.
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Re: New Law Lets The Government Shoot Down Drones
« Reply #39 on: December 21, 2018, 03:13:03 PM »
That's just crazy...But I don't blame them for shutting it down.
It opened for a while then opened again.

The French police have trained eagles to take them down apparently!!

You tube eagle vs drone
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Re: New Law Lets The Government Shoot Down Drones
« Reply #40 on: December 21, 2018, 04:08:37 PM »
It opened for a while then opened again.

The French police have trained eagles to take them down apparently!!

You tube eagle vs drone

Due to our limited bandwidth here at the MIL I was only able to watch one video....That eagle didn't mess around.

Of course PETA will NOT like it.... ;D
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Re: New Law Lets The Government Shoot Down Drones
« Reply #41 on: January 09, 2019, 10:47:05 PM »
i find it amazing how so many are duped into beliving drones are a problem.
thats like saying budwiser is at fault for liver failure.

most of these socalled drone sightings are just like the old ufo sighiting craze before digatal and video cams came around. heck even nessie has not been seen in 20 years.

yes there are some that might be real. but the worst case ( in britten i belive)  closed down a airport for three days. then it was found out that it was the airports police drone that got reported.
before peps jump on this beating of a dead horse. remember that for every one bad person doing wrong there are thousands of people doing right.
no new laws needed here. just inforce what is on the books now.

or the next craze might be agenst people living in rvs.

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Re: New Law Lets The Government Shoot Down Drones
« Reply #42 on: January 10, 2019, 11:38:37 AM »
Heathrow Airport in London was also closed for several hours a few days ago for a drone sighting....    ???

Gatwick was closed for a few days a few weeks ago.
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Re: New Law Lets The Government Shoot Down Drones
« Reply #43 on: January 10, 2019, 01:26:12 PM »
 “i find it amazing how so many are duped into beliving drones are a problem.
thats like saying budwiser is at fault for liver failure.”

I bet there are some insurgents that think, or thought, drones are a problem.
That’s what you get for drinking Budweiser. Should be drinking Genessee Cream Ale.
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Re: New Law Lets The Government Shoot Down Drones
« Reply #44 on: January 10, 2019, 05:21:01 PM »
“i find it amazing how so many are duped into beliving drones are a problem.
thats like saying budwiser is at fault for liver failure.”

I bet there are some insurgents that think, or thought, drones are a problem.
That’s what you get for drinking Budweiser. Should be drinking Genessee Cream Ale.

In the Army we had two beers to choose from,  PBR and Budweiser...a PBR would make a Budweiser taste like Heaven.

so, To this day..  I still drink Budweiser.

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Re: New Law Lets The Government Shoot Down Drones
« Reply #45 on: January 10, 2019, 06:56:37 PM »
In the Army we had two beers to choose from,  PBR and Budweiser...a PBR would make a Budweiser taste like Heaven.

so, To this day..  I still drink Budweiser.

I can drink a Bud but I can’t stomach a PBR.
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Re: New Law Lets The Government Shoot Down Drones
« Reply #46 on: January 10, 2019, 07:50:02 PM »
I'd give a lot of bucks for a 6 pack of wide mouth Strohs but I haven't seen one in years - like 40 years.

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