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Panfish Pa

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Faded and checked graphics
« on: October 07, 2018, 05:38:14 PM »
Hello all, newbie here, last year I purchased a 29ft 04' Sunseeker class c, it only had 4300 miles, new tires and batteries and is proving to be a very reliable motorhome. The unit drives nice and hasnt seen much use, the only thing that ages it is the faded graphics, which are 3 different colors but fairly simple looking, some have become checked or cracked. Now I would imagine this topic has been covered before but I cant find a search option on this site? anyway I have checked into replacing them and got prices from $2000 to $2500 which is out of my budget, I am now looking at the possibility of painting over the existing graphics, just not sure what type of painter or shop to look for, that and wondering if it is at all possible?

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Re: Faded and checked graphics
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2018, 07:15:11 PM »
The only solution is to remove the old graphic decals and then paint with whatever you like or have new decals made.   Any vinyl sign shop can make whatever you like, and prices can vary a lot with the size and design.   Or buy a vinyl decal printer and DIY! You can find vinyl decal/sigh makers near you by searching online, or do business over the internet and they ship them to you.

For a painted replacement, you probably want a professional sign painter [or maybe a ghetto graffiti specialist  ;D ].  Seriously, it's not hard if you have the talent. Just some acrylic paints and creativity.

https://www.google.com/search?q=decal+vinyl+maker&ie=utf-8
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Panfish Pa

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Re: Faded and checked graphics
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2018, 08:44:17 PM »
I cant see why they should have to be removed, but yes I agree that would be the best method but $2500 is out of the question. I would think someone has painted over or installed new graphics over old ones.

99dart

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Re: Faded and checked graphics
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2018, 06:58:49 AM »
I cant see why they should have to be removed, but yes I agree that would be the best method but $2500 is out of the question. I would think someone has painted over or installed new graphics over old ones.

You don't want to paint or apply graphics over the old stuff. Either will look like doo doo without a nice flat surface underneath. Not to mention both won't stick well and your repair effort will be wasted.
I removed the sun burned/cracked graphics on our 1998 Thor 31 footer. Using an eraser wheel on a drill, it takes them off pretty easily.Then, found a place in Arizona to make new vinyl graphics for right at $1000. Fortunately I have a son that works with graphics all the time to do my installation.
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Re: Faded and checked graphics
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2018, 11:47:44 AM »
I think you can do better than $2500, but it all depends on what you want and how much you can DIY.   Removing the old stuff is a lot of labor and expensive if you pay somebody else $75-$125 per hour.  If you don't want to do it yourself, consider hiring a laborer rather than paying pro shop labor rates. Maybe a local detailer would do it.

Were those price quotes from an RV shop or a local sign or vinyl wrap company? RV shop rates are sky high and they probably subcontract it anyway.

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Panfish Pa

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Re: Faded and checked graphics
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2018, 07:43:02 PM »
Well the quote of $2500 was from a local shop that does graphics and other mods to vehicles, I probably can beat there price if I look long enough. Let me back up a bit, soon after I bought the unit I noticed the front overhead bunk was leaking during a day long rain, that weekend I started removing any water damaged material, well I ended up spending roughly 6 weekends and $2000 rebuilding the entire overhead bunk and replacing the gutters, resealing the roof, windows etc..., long story short I worked a lot on it to make it right, and now I want to make it look right, but Im not ready for another 6 weekend project.
 Id gladly spend 1000-1500$ to have someone else do the work, but if I have to remove the old graphics, I can install new ones. I own a business and have purchased the graphics and installed them myself (not a huge job)

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Re: Faded and checked graphics
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2018, 10:53:10 AM »
May I suggest that you use the forum SEARCH function to find previous discussions about "remove decals" to get a better handle on the work involved and then shop around for a reasonable price for that effort.  I don't know how much decal work is involved in your coach so can't tell whether $2500 is a bargain or exorbitant.  I've done some of my own and know it is labor intensive to do a good job.

A question: you stated the coach is an Itasca Sunseeker, but Sunseeker is a Forest River brand Class C.  What year/make/model is it?
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Panfish Pa

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Re: Faded and checked graphics
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2018, 06:27:11 PM »
Thanks Gary, I did just discover the search feature, it is a Forest River Sunseeker 29ft class c, I had owned a Forest river Work and Play before and had good luck with it.

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Re: Faded and checked graphics
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2018, 05:17:13 PM »
I used a eraser wheel on a drill to remove old decals. There are several brands..some by 3M.   I got some inexpensive ones from eBay, they worked well.   The fiberglass under the decals was a bit faded, but not very noticeable.   I got some RV decals from EBay .. pretty easy to install.  One differnce I found was that heavy material is much easier to install.  I did not purchase some of the more expensive complete sets of graphics, but just some individual pairs of “swoops” Solid colors hat are the actual color of the vinyl don't fade if wiped with some type of solvent like those type that the color is printed on.   I also had a local franchise “Fast Signs” make some to match a pattern I made out of tissue paper to match existing shapes, they had the option of printing or using solid color vinyl.  None of this was very expensive